Where can I invest?

[ronaldo40]

maybe you are interested in sports gambling https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1095507.0

[scarsbergholden]

I would say stay in bitcoin do a little bit of day trading if you could manage the charts and if you have time to mine a new altcoin with a good roadmap do so only if you own a rig.

[ranochigo]

true, and all of these risks can be minimized with transparency; if the site shows their bankroll at all times as well as proof of funds, investors can see for themselves weather or not the site's investment system is legitimate or not. i believe the lack of this transparency was why dadice decided to halt their investment option as well

Dicebitco.in offered exactly that but it still ended up making its investors lose money. It offered proof of funds and the size of the bankroll was always shown on the upper left corner of the site:

Proof of funds and an already starting bankroll of 3000 7500+ BTCs! Yes, SEVEN thousands five hundred. .  Our COLD wallet -->  https://blockchain.info/address/19tQNCrmaW6EADfJrtBaRixRkPyVrvb6yk

Just passed 1k+ Bets in less than 3h O_o

Quote from an article on the site's demise:

Since the beginning of the authorship of this article, DiceBitco.in owners manl and gerry have stopped responding to users on Bitcointalk and a player, going by the name mateo, has continually placed bets with a near perfect win ratio, emptying the site and stealing the entireity of investor funds.

Link: http://cointelegraph.com/news/112470/dicebitcoin-accused-of-cheating-players

Many others fell from the same thing. Even TF's sites got raped. The only truly safe place for your money is in your own hands.

Coinbase offers insurance, but if you read what they say, if their service was hacked or someone found a way to exploit addresses to wipe them out, insurance would not cover the situation.

The interesting part is that doolgus trusted it and everyone just followed him. Investing in a gambling site may not be the best way to earn a profit. The owner can see the seeds and predict the rolls hence cheating investors. This is the main reason why primedice don't have a investor option. Security wise, the cold storage is intended to be secure. If one properly generated a cold storage address, the probability of it getting hacked is very low. In TF's accident, the majority of coins wasn't kept in cold storage which would be much much more secure.

[ranlo]

true, and all of these risks can be minimized with transparency; if the site shows their bankroll at all times as well as proof of funds, investors can see for themselves weather or not the site's investment system is legitimate or not. i believe the lack of this transparency was why dadice decided to halt their investment option as well

Dicebitco.in offered exactly that but it still ended up making its investors lose money. It offered proof of funds and the size of the bankroll was always shown on the upper left corner of the site:

Proof of funds and an already starting bankroll of 3000 7500+ BTCs! Yes, SEVEN thousands five hundred. .  Our COLD wallet -->  https://blockchain.info/address/19tQNCrmaW6EADfJrtBaRixRkPyVrvb6yk

Just passed 1k+ Bets in less than 3h O_o

Quote from an article on the site's demise:

Since the beginning of the authorship of this article, DiceBitco.in owners manl and gerry have stopped responding to users on Bitcointalk and a player, going by the name mateo, has continually placed bets with a near perfect win ratio, emptying the site and stealing the entireity of investor funds.

Link: http://cointelegraph.com/news/112470/dicebitcoin-accused-of-cheating-players

Many others fell from the same thing. Even TF's sites got raped. The only truly safe place for your money is in your own hands.

Coinbase offers insurance, but if you read what they say, if their service was hacked or someone found a way to exploit addresses to wipe them out, insurance would not cover the situation.

The interesting part is that doolgus trusted it and everyone just followed him. Investing in a gambling site may not be the best way to earn a profit. The owner can see the seeds and predict the rolls hence cheating investors. This is the main reason why primedice don't have a investor option. Security wise, the cold storage is intended to be secure. If one properly generated a cold storage address, the probability of it getting hacked is very low. In TF's accident, the majority of coins wasn't kept in cold storage which would be much much more secure.

It was interesting to see that TF *didn't* have them in cold storage. It was pretty up on security, and even advised everyone else to store theirs in cold storage, and called out the sites that didn't (as well as notifying other site owners about their exploitable security holes). It was just overall a pretty bad situation.

[smith coins]

Hi guys!
I saved some money in the last year, now I'm looking for some opportunity in this kind of market to invest my money. Is it better buy altcoins or bitcoin? maybe mining? I'm just a bit confused, but determinate!

If you have some cash flow already, you can invest directly in startups and other funds in various markets, provided you know what you're doing. There's some risk or just buy and hold BTC

[ranlo]

Hi guys!
I saved some money in the last year, now I'm looking for some opportunity in this kind of market to invest my money. Is it better buy altcoins or bitcoin? maybe mining? I'm just a bit confused, but determinate!

If you have some cash flow already, you can invest directly in startups and other funds in various markets, provided you know what you're doing. There's some risk or just buy and hold BTC

I recommend NOT investing in ANY crypto business. I have yet to see even one that isn't severely over-inflating their value to take advantage of people that know nothing about investing and will blindly throw their money at everything. This is why no reputable crypto business offers investment opportunities here: they only take them privately. Because no real investor is stupid enough to throw their money away.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Much financial advice.  Such ignorance.  So dangerous.

[oxiyusuf]

Hi guys!
I saved some money in the last year, now I'm looking for some opportunity in this kind of market to invest my money. Is it better buy altcoins or bitcoin? maybe mining? I'm just a bit confused, but determinate!

If you have some cash flow already, you can invest directly in startups and other funds in various markets, provided you know what you're doing. There's some risk or just buy and hold BTC

I recommend NOT investing in ANY crypto business. I have yet to see even one that isn't severely over-inflating their value to take advantage of people that know nothing about investing and will blindly throw their money at everything. This is why no reputable crypto business offers investment opportunities here: they only take them privately. Because no real investor is stupid enough to throw their money away.

yeah it's like that when doing business in the virtual world, everything is covered by the false picture created by the business owners better .. you choose to trade or mining house, although mining is not very promising for today

[pooya87]

I think there are a lot better opportunities than btcjam.  I don't feel that btcjam is really worth the risk. It's practically gambling.

And I find the whole concept of trust loans, it just tells me to stay away. Eventually they'll run with your money.

if you want to lend bitcoin to other i think you have better chances here rather than on any other site like btcjam. there is a lot of complains associated with their services.
at least here you have control over your lendings.

[extrabyte]

it's good to spread savings/investments and stocking btc might be one idea to do so.

[subSTRATA]

it's good to spread savings/investments and stocking btc might be one idea to do so.

thats what the op is looking to do; youre practically rewording the question into a statement; invest, sure, but where? no investment is a sure profit though, thats the biggest thing to keep in mind.

[goinmerry]

Don't gamble and if you try to gamble then luck comes to you don't be so greed.

[7bestone7]

it's good to spread savings/investments and stocking btc might be one idea to do so.

thats what the op is looking to do; youre practically rewording the question into a statement; invest, sure, but where? no investment is a sure profit though, thats the biggest thing to keep in mind.

i think he meant that holding your money in bitcoin might be not good decision he did not say you should invest bitcoins somewhere

[oni.saori]

Bitcoins is itself a investment , Its like a share market price up and down Ever Sec . so its depend on you want to invest bitcoins in following -

Invest in trading area
Invest in Bitcoin Faucet (high investment gives high return Experience need)
Invest in btcjam get Flat Return (invest only in Trusted person)

[1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJu]

Bitcoins is itself a investment , Its like a share market price up and down Ever Sec . so its depend on you want to invest bitcoins in following -

Invest in trading area
Invest in Bitcoin Faucet (high investment gives high return Experience need)
Invest in btcjam get Flat Return (invest only in Trusted person)

also you can invest at LOAN in poloniex, also you can give Loan to some people trusted at bitcointalk
high profit

[oni.saori]

Bitcoins is itself a investment , Its like a share market price up and down Ever Sec . so its depend on you want to invest bitcoins in following -

Invest in trading area
Invest in Bitcoin Faucet (high investment gives high return Experience need)
Invest in btcjam get Flat Return (invest only in Trusted person)

also you can invest at LOAN in poloniex, also you can give Loan to some people trusted at bitcointalk
high profit

Never provide a Loan here High risk of Loss here as well as high profit also

[1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJu]

Bitcoins is itself a investment , Its like a share market price up and down Ever Sec . so its depend on you want to invest bitcoins in following -

Invest in trading area
Invest in Bitcoin Faucet (high investment gives high return Experience need)
Invest in btcjam get Flat Return (invest only in Trusted person)

also you can invest at LOAN in poloniex, also you can give Loan to some people trusted at bitcointalk
high profit

Never provide a Loan here High risk of Loss here as well as high profit also

if you have more cpital you can get more profit
look this thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=812533.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=750507.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1021034.0

they are make more money from LOAN

[Amph]

Bitcoins is itself a investment , Its like a share market price up and down Ever Sec . so its depend on you want to invest bitcoins in following -

Invest in trading area
Invest in Bitcoin Faucet (high investment gives high return Experience need)
Invest in btcjam get Flat Return (invest only in Trusted person)

also you can invest at LOAN in poloniex, also you can give Loan to some people trusted at bitcointalk
high profit

Never provide a Loan here High risk of Loss here as well as high profit also

i don't agree, if they can give you a good collateral the risk is reduced almost to zero, so loan with collateral are not risky at all and provide a good return in the short term

the problem is that only few member are providing a good collateral, the majority want to do it without collateral, which result in a scam most of the times

[ranlo]

Bitcoins is itself a investment , Its like a share market price up and down Ever Sec . so its depend on you want to invest bitcoins in following -

Invest in trading area
Invest in Bitcoin Faucet (high investment gives high return Experience need)
Invest in btcjam get Flat Return (invest only in Trusted person)

also you can invest at LOAN in poloniex, also you can give Loan to some people trusted at bitcointalk
high profit

Never provide a Loan here High risk of Loss here as well as high profit also

i don't agree, if they can give you a good collateral the risk is reduced almost to zero, so loan with collateral are not risky at all and provide a good return in the short term

the problem is that only few member are providing a good collateral, the majority want to do it without collateral, which result in a scam most of the times

Well, yeah... if they had the collateral, why would they need the loan? It's very rare for someone to need money and have the amount available but not want to use it. Usually this in itself is a sign of a scam.

[1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJu]

Bitcoins is itself a investment , Its like a share market price up and down Ever Sec . so its depend on you want to invest bitcoins in following -

Invest in trading area
Invest in Bitcoin Faucet (high investment gives high return Experience need)
Invest in btcjam get Flat Return (invest only in Trusted person)

also you can invest at LOAN in poloniex, also you can give Loan to some people trusted at bitcointalk
high profit

Never provide a Loan here High risk of Loss here as well as high profit also

i don't agree, if they can give you a good collateral the risk is reduced almost to zero, so loan with collateral are not risky at all and provide a good return in the short term

the problem is that only few member are providing a good collateral, the majority want to do it without collateral, which result in a scam most of the times

Well, yeah... if they had the collateral, why would they need the loan? It's very rare for someone to need money and have the amount available but not want to use it. Usually this in itself is a sign of a scam.

it's simple such as you want to buy smartphone and you not have money, you can sell your hero member but you feel shame to sell it
then you choose to take LOAN for 1-2 week after you have money you return to pay it

My advice don't accept member who want to get loan without collateral that high risk