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May 03, 2015, 03:05:21 AM
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Why would some chose to mine at Discus Fish compared with other pool that charge a much lower fee? I mean 4% is a very significant cut into profits. Is PPS really that much better than PPLNS?

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May 03, 2015, 03:09:03 AM
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Possibly because it is one of the biggest pools located in China, which has many miners. With the Great Firewall of China, a Bitcoin miner is limited to the pools within the country, and thus join Discus Fish since it is one of the largest pools.

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May 03, 2015, 03:31:56 AM
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Why would some chose to mine at Discus Fish compared with other pool that charge a much lower fee? I mean 4% is a very significant cut into profits. Is PPS really that much better than PPLNS?

They have a rock solid setup in China.  So with all the adoption of miners there some have picked it with a known amount of earnings.  Even with high fees you can guarantee a certain level of earning.

I do predict Antpool becoming for lack of better term "king".  It is estimated only 1 percent less then F2pool - https://blockchain.info/pools
 
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May 03, 2015, 03:44:13 AM
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Possibly because it is one of the biggest pools located in China, which has many miners. With the Great Firewall of China, a Bitcoin miner is limited to the pools within the country, and thus join Discus Fish since it is one of the largest pools.

For example AntPool doesn't charge a fee and is also located in China, yet they seem to be a bit less popular than Discus Fish

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May 03, 2015, 03:45:54 AM
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Possibly because it is one of the biggest pools located in China, which has many miners. With the Great Firewall of China, a Bitcoin miner is limited to the pools within the country, and thus join Discus Fish since it is one of the largest pools.

For example AntPool doesn't charge a fee and is also located in China, yet they seem to be a bit less popular than Discus Fish

Look at the comparison - https://blockchain.info/pools

They are not that much less popular at this point.
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May 03, 2015, 03:56:32 AM
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It has nothing to do with the Great Firewall. No major western pools is blocked in China. I suppose the reason why Chinese miners do not choose western pools is probably due to poor advertisement and localization.

And as far as I know, more than half of antpool's hashing power is from bitmain's private mining farm. While F2Pool does not have a single GH/s of private hashing power.

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May 03, 2015, 04:41:29 AM
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let it be noted mac book air runs the f2pool thread here.

I mine a lot at f2pool   why ? no variance and they pay once a day.

bitcoin affiliate pool was better but they started paying very slowly.

My margin of mining is very tight  mining at a 2 or 3 ph pool and waiting 4 days for a block maybe even 5 days does not cut it for me.

A small pool can go with 90% for a month in a row.  even worse .  so a perfect 96% looks better then a bad 90%

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May 03, 2015, 06:54:12 AM
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i think just because discush fish using fix pps payout,
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i stop using f2pool and change to antpool because too many disconnect / dead status..
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May 03, 2015, 07:50:14 AM
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i think just because discush fish using fix pps payout,
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i stop using f2pool and change to antpool because too many disconnect / dead status..

With antpool doing good on luck I do see a good amount of hash jumping there.    It lost some during the DDOS attacks, but seems to have gained it back.

Just out of curiosity where is your miner located?   I think f2pool is pretty well set up.
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May 03, 2015, 08:03:04 AM
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i think just because discush fish using fix pps payout,
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i stop using f2pool and change to antpool because too many disconnect / dead status..

With antpool doing good on luck I do see a good amount of hash jumping there.    It lost some during the DDOS attacks, but seems to have gained it back.

Just out of curiosity where is your miner located?   I think f2pool is pretty well set up.
if antpool in good luck, or just 100% is equal with 0% pps.
with 2 s5, i get 0.02854658BTC in antpool 2 days ago..
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im in indonesia, but my connection is using vpn connection from digitalocean singapore.
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May 03, 2015, 08:15:02 AM
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i think just because discush fish using fix pps payout,
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i stop using f2pool and change to antpool because too many disconnect / dead status..

With antpool doing good on luck I do see a good amount of hash jumping there.    It lost some during the DDOS attacks, but seems to have gained it back.

Just out of curiosity where is your miner located?   I think f2pool is pretty well set up.
if antpool in good luck, or just 100% is equal with 0% pps.
with 2 s5, i get 0.02854658BTC in antpool 2 days ago..
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im in indonesia, but my connection is using vpn connection from digitalocean singapore.


That would be a mix of no fees, and good luck.

The VPN you are using is what made the connection bad to pool.  I wont go off topic more and ask about it more.
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May 03, 2015, 06:55:05 PM
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4% is a significant cut indeed, but they seem to have some advantages compared to others. Convenience trumps payments sometimes.
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May 03, 2015, 07:22:58 PM
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i think just because discush fish using fix pps payout,
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i stop using f2pool and change to antpool because too many disconnect / dead status..

With antpool doing good on luck I do see a good amount of hash jumping there.    It lost some during the DDOS attacks, but seems to have gained it back.

Just out of curiosity where is your miner located?   I think f2pool is pretty well set up.
if antpool in good luck, or just 100% is equal with 0% pps.
with 2 s5, i get 0.02854658BTC in antpool 2 days ago..
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im in indonesia, but my connection is using vpn connection from digitalocean singapore.


I am just curious but why do you have to use a vpn while mining?

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May 03, 2015, 09:33:42 PM
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PPS is good for farms because it guarantees a payment for every share and income is stable. It is that much easier to estimate monthly profit and decisions can be made to increase mining capability or downsize. Transfer of risk has a cost and it's 4%.
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May 03, 2015, 11:10:13 PM
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Antpool and f2pool are tied right now - https://blockchain.info/pools

I think my prediction of antpool taking no 1 spot is going to be right.
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May 04, 2015, 12:02:13 AM
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Antpool and f2pool are tied right now - https://blockchain.info/pools

I think my prediction of antpool taking no 1 spot is going to be right.

Yea 4% is hard to compete with 0% pool fees

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May 04, 2015, 12:49:26 AM
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i think just because discush fish using fix pps payout,
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i stop using f2pool and change to antpool because too many disconnect / dead status..

With antpool doing good on luck I do see a good amount of hash jumping there.    It lost some during the DDOS attacks, but seems to have gained it back.

Just out of curiosity where is your miner located?   I think f2pool is pretty well set up.
if antpool in good luck, or just 100% is equal with 0% pps.
with 2 s5, i get 0.02854658BTC in antpool 2 days ago..
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im in indonesia, but my connection is using vpn connection from digitalocean singapore.


I am just curious but why do you have to use a vpn while mining?
sometimes i do solo mining in solo.ckpool.org when i see the stat of solo.ckpool in high pool state
by using vpn, i think i can bypass many connection before reach the ckpool server
so i think i will get higher chance to get block
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sorry oot.
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May 04, 2015, 06:10:53 AM
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I do point some of my hash there and think of it as getting consistent payouts at 96% luck with PPLNS.
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May 04, 2015, 11:29:24 AM
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i get alot of rejects from this pool, like 10%

i dunno if its connection or what.
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May 04, 2015, 10:37:29 PM
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i get alot of rejects from this pool, like 10%

i dunno if its connection or what.


Is it just on discus fish or is it with other pools too?

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