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Question: [VOTE] Which country is most advanced in cryptography. China, Russia or the U.S?
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May 04, 2015, 04:17:01 AM
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From the link you just posted:

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The Western world, also known as the West and the Occident (from Latin: occidens "sunset, West"; as contrasted with the Orient, Greek: Δυτικός Kόσμoς), is a term referring to different nations depending on the context.

We are from different continents - let's just agree to disagree, and get this thread back on track.    Smiley


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May 04, 2015, 04:22:09 AM
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From the link you just posted:

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The Western world, also known as the West and the Occident (from Latin: occidens "sunset, West"; as contrasted with the Orient, Greek: Δυτικός Kόσμoς), is a term referring to different nations depending on the context.

Let's just agree to disagree, and get this thread back on track.    Smiley



Ok whatever

My original point was that because person has high IQ doesn't mean he is a demigod, Marx had high IQ, Engels had high IQ, Himmler had high IQ,Central Banksters have high IQ.

Do you see any pattern , because I dont. And i`m not talking about good vs evil (yes intelligent people can use their advantage for evil), but just about being right and having a solid world view.

Speaking of which, the Chinese have also higher IQ on average as I pointed out, yet they still live communism.

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May 04, 2015, 04:26:01 AM
Last edit: May 04, 2015, 04:58:34 AM by Vod
 #23

People who think they have high IQs seem to want to argue with those people so beneath them.   Wink

Another example of a hostile person who thought he had a 150+ IQ.... (lol)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=51755.msg617432#msg617432
(when we last heard from dank, he was homeless and a thief...)



Edit:  I feel bad for the way I treated GreenStox.  I should be grateful he took the time and energy to interact with someone so beneath him.

Peace and apologies my friend.   Smiley

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May 04, 2015, 05:34:12 AM
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ah shit the vote showing all china , and absolutely i think china is the most advanced.

 
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May 04, 2015, 03:03:47 PM
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yes, Chinese ppl has high IQ and are good at math. But the problem is that they are focusing on earning quick money, not the startups, which need endless waiting for profit and carry a lot of risk!

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May 04, 2015, 07:43:22 PM
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As an Asian, I would like to step in.
China as they have higher IQs and not to be rasict or anything many people from the Asian Continent such as Chinese people are amazing at math.
Chinese are typically good at Math because of the emphasis and focus on learning Math. This is probably because of the current situation of China, where they focus very greatly on Math and the sciences since these are all things that are guaranteed to make money. The greed for insane wealth drives this, and the availability of high paying jobs involving math and science puts more pressure for Asian children to do well in these subjects in school. I'm sure if there were many available and high paying jobs in the arts that Asian parents would pressure their children to do well in the arts too.

My opinion is that the national group 'Chinese' are kicking the shit out of us in that area. My speculation is that it has to do with how their language is ordered and written and so on. If that is accurate then groups with similar language types would also do well in cryptography.

A reason for my speculation is that they use single characters to portray words, like creating an alphabet of words with tens of thousands of characters. In English, for example, you must 'know' tens of thousands of words to communicate, but to write you only need to know 26 written letters.
I don't think that the alphabet and memorization of words helps with understanding logic and cryptography. It would be more of the syntax and structure of the language. If anything, I would think that people who know Latin would be better cryptographers because Latin is a very precise language, with a very specific syntax and structure. It is logically built and the ordering of words in Latin can be very important. This aspect I feel would make good cryptographers.

Overall, I think that China probably is better at cryptography since they have a population trained very highly in math. Also, China has a larger population, so they can use more people to develop cryptography than other countries would.

Roughly 6 generations ago Germans were probably considered superior in subjects comparable to cryptography in this context. They got their asses handed to them.

In the 70s Japan was considered a phenomenal rising star. Superior at everything, an economy about to take off, etc. Now they are looking for a way to survive as a country.

The United States used to be full of theories about how it became superior. Was it because it was a melting pot? Because of a frontier mentality? Doesn't matter now because it is near death.

So okay, you say that if the Chinese needed to be 'superior' in the arts they would snap their fingers and do it. I'll watch from a distance.

Western means Europe and North America, I`m from Europe.

"Western" usually means the American continent - both North and South (yes, there is a South America!).   Smiley


There is north/south and east/west.

A thousand years ago the Americas, north and south, were 'the east'.

Today 'the south' is the poor countries and 'the north' is China, Russia, the U.S. etc.

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May 04, 2015, 08:08:56 PM
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Roughly 6 generations ago Germans were probably considered superior in subjects comparable to cryptography in this context. They got their asses handed to them.

In the 70s Japan was considered a phenomenal rising star. Superior at everything, an economy about to take off, etc. Now they are looking for a way to survive as a country.

The United States used to be full of theories about how it became superior. Was it because it was a melting pot? Because of a frontier mentality? Doesn't matter now because it is near death.

So okay, you say that if the Chinese needed to be 'superior' in the arts they would snap their fingers and do it. I'll watch from a distance.
Obviously, countries evolve, and their status changes. So yes, Germany was superior at one point, and so was Japan, and so was the USA, but as time goes on, people migrate, different countries develop new standards, and things change. If you look at a chart of which country supposedly does better in certain subjects, you would find that it will change yearly. Countries move up and down the list, and their citizen's skills change. Sometimes things change because of economics, sometimes war, and sometimes for other reasons. It is highly unlikely that the most advanced country will stay in that position and it will likely change within a few years. However, at current time of writing this, on May 4th 2015, I think that China is probably the most advanced at cryptography. Who knows what country will be next?

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May 04, 2015, 11:12:39 PM
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I`m not sure about China, but i`m sure that (east) Asians on average have higher IQ and mental discipline so i`m sure they got the most advanced cryptography aswell.

Some of the asians I have met are clever and very well educated. Are all asians more intelligent? I cannot say. There is a different between "well trained" and "truly gifted" if you see what I mean.

Apologize for my rudeness, but nobody cares about your opinion, its a scientific fact, go search on google, plenty of tests have proven that asians have higher IQ, on average, than other sub-races, on average.

It is not a scientific fact, it is a statistical observation, and sampling is extremely bad. The "test" is only accessible to the better educated and well-off asians.
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It is not a scientific fact, it is a statistical observation, and sampling is extremely bad. The "test" is only accessible to the better educated and well-off asians.

But the better off educated people are more likely to have high IQ anyway

Their parents are intelligent -> They make more money-> Their kids go to better schools, plus they inherit the genes of their parents.

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May 04, 2015, 11:26:19 PM
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people say china it is china, but i believe USA is most advanced country in cryptography

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people say china it is china, but i believe USA is most advanced country in cryptography

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It is highly unlikely that the most advanced country will stay in that position and it will likely change within a few years. However, at current time of writing this, on May 4th 2015, I think that China is probably the most advanced at cryptography. Who knows what country will be next?

What country will follow China in the top position? That is a great question.
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