Case vs Trezor

[Amph]

What are the relative pros and cons?

Case uses biometrics (plus it doesn't actually exist), so it's out for me.

I love my Trezor, it's been very reliable. I'll buy another one as soon as a higher build quality is available.

isn't biometric better, especially if it is eye biometric and not footprints

i'm with the Case here, i've always liked biometric eyes more

[Kprawn]

Well, I am most probably going to be biased. { I only own a Trezor }

I do not trust Bio metrics on any device and I think Open source in this instance, might be a bit risky.

On the other hand, nobody has ever given proof, that they lost any coins on a Trezor. I would not dump 1000s of Bitcoins onto it.. but it's cool for daily use.

In the end, it comes down to personal choice. 

[fryarminer]

What if case goes under?  Are your bitcoins locked since there servers cant verify the transaction?

So it's two of three keys to get your funds. It is a third party company that has the third key, or you can chose, as I will, to keep the third key yourself.

If Case goes under it is only one of the three keys, so no problem. Use the other two keys to get your funds.

[Klestin]

I agree we have different definitions of open source and why I cited the exact license they switched to.

Would be great to stop that troll, because they went back to the original license immediately after the change and even documented it on their blog

Thanks!  This is indeed a shorter answer than debating the difference between open source and shared source.

[inBitweTrust]

isn't biometric better, especially if it is eye biometric and not footprints

i'm with the Case here, i've always liked biometric eyes more

Biometrics are convenient which creates a security benefit because you will use a sufficient amount of entropy on your password... but also have severe disadvantages because you end up leaving all your passwords everywhere in public and cannot change it if it gets compromised.

[fryarminer]

I'm getting excited about Case. I pre-ordered and I can't wait for it to arrive.
In a way, I think it is as safe as cold storage. If any one of the three keys gets compromised and you act immediately to secure your bitcoins using the other two keys, you're safe.
On the other hand, it is easier to use than any exchange for purchase and any wallet to spend.
So it's a hybrid between secure and hot storage, almost a category on its own. It's pretty exciting!

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Case is a much more full featured hardware wallet , but is almost twice as expensive. They both have advantages and disadvantages.

Trezor
https://www.bitcointrezor.com/
119 USD
No longer open source as of  v1.3.0 and switched to restrictive Microsoft Reference Source License

Case
 http://www.choosecase.com/
1000 units available Pre-order
199.00 USD
Source Code: Open Source Firmware - yet to be released

What are the benefits of this wallet over the other ones?

Combines multisig where Case holds one of the keys as a backup for you but cannot steal your funds and includes fingerprint biometrics and uses its own GSM signal to communicate with the blockchain so you can make payments without internet.

http://www.choosecase.com/faq.html

Case connects to 183 mobile carriers in 109 countries: Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Anguilla, Antigua and Barbuda, Argentina, Armenia, Aruba, Australia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belgium, Bermuda, Brazil, British Virgin Islands, Bulgaria, Canada, Cayman Islands, Chad, Chile, China, Colombia, Cote de Ivoire, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Dominica, Dominican Republic, DR Congo, Ecuador, Egypt, El Salvador, Estonia, Faeroe Islands, Finland, France, Germany, Ghana, Greece, Grenada, Guatemala, Guyana, Haiti, Honduras, Hong Kong, Hungary, Iceland, India, Indonesia, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Jamaica, Japan, Kazakstan, Laos, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Malta, Martinique, Mexico, Montserrat, Namibia, Netherlands, Netherlands Antilles, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Nigeria, Norway, Pakistan, Panama, Peru, Poland, Portugal, Republic of Korea, Romania, Russian Federation, Rwanda, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Africa, Spain, St. Lucia, St. Vincent and the Grenadines, Suriname, Sweden, Switzerland, Tanzania, Thailand, Trinidad and Tobago, Turkey, Turks and Caicos Islands, Uganda, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom, United States, Uruguay, Uzbekistan, Venezuela.

Warning - Do not use this hardware for money laundering , tax avoidance or illegal activities as they are a US company that does store some data on their users. It is likely they will comply with investigators.

How is my fingerprint data stored?

We do not store direct images of your fingerprints on our servers. We store a geometric template of the relative locations of unique elements of your fingerprint and this template is used to validate the fingerprint scan.

Hey man thanks for this, very thorough.
I've been thinking about getting a trezor for ages but kind of nervous about straying away from paper wallets.
By all accounts CASE looks better.
I'm convinced that I'll end up buying one or the other.
The security looks superb on both but I'm a naturally paranoid person.
Think I'm going to make the jump and buy one or the other very soon.

[cafucafucafu]

It seems like Trezor is better as a Bitcoin safe, Case is a better wallet.

[cozk]

For serious BTC both are shit. I do not trust anything that the bitcoin core.

For pocket change BTC who cares... its pocket change BTC

[cafucafucafu]

For serious BTC both are shit. I do not trust anything that the bitcoin core.

For pocket change BTC who cares... its pocket change BTC

You want your BTC paper wallet to one day burn down in a fire? With Trezor at least you can memorise the seed and even use it with an infected PC.

[cozk]

For serious BTC both are shit. I do not trust anything that the bitcoin core.

For pocket change BTC who cares... its pocket change BTC

You want your BTC paper wallet to one day burn down in a fire? With Trezor at least you can memorise the seed and even use it with an infected PC.

Encrypted wallet.dat in an encrypted container on an encrypted usb stick.

One at home, one at the bank, one at friends etc.

Yes, if the planet explodes im fucked.

[cafucafucafu]

For serious BTC both are shit. I do not trust anything that the bitcoin core.

For pocket change BTC who cares... its pocket change BTC

You want your BTC paper wallet to one day burn down in a fire? With Trezor at least you can memorise the seed and even use it with an infected PC.

Encrypted wallet.dat in an encrypted container on an encrypted usb stick.

One at home, one at the bank, one at friends etc.

Yes, if the planet explodes im fucked.

USB sticks' memory last how many decades? Plus you will need to use a PC/Laptop to send coins. A compromised PC and your coins are gone.

[fryarminer]

For serious BTC both are shit. I do not trust anything that the bitcoin core.

For pocket change BTC who cares... its pocket change BTC

You want your BTC paper wallet to one day burn down in a fire? With Trezor at least you can memorise the seed and even use it with an infected PC.

Encrypted wallet.dat in an encrypted container on an encrypted usb stick.

One at home, one at the bank, one at friends etc.

Yes, if the planet explodes im fucked.

Yeah Bitcoin Core is the authentic and the original, but I don't trust the computer it is on. I don't put a satoshi on a computer anymore. At least a paper wallet doesn't get virus's

[cozk]

For serious BTC both are shit. I do not trust anything that the bitcoin core.

For pocket change BTC who cares... its pocket change BTC

You want your BTC paper wallet to one day burn down in a fire? With Trezor at least you can memorise the seed and even use it with an infected PC.

Encrypted wallet.dat in an encrypted container on an encrypted usb stick.

One at home, one at the bank, one at friends etc.

Yes, if the planet explodes im fucked.

USB sticks' memory last how many decades? Plus you will need to use a PC/Laptop to send coins. A compromised PC and your coins are gone.

Fresh install via an image of a freshly install OS (at your choice) previously made. Takes minutes.

Re-do the usb sticks after a few years or use HDDs.
lol at ''decades'' is that really the only thing you could came with ? Like your shitty tezor would still work in 10 years.

For serious BTC amounts its worth the 10-15 mins it takes.

[Amph]

For serious BTC both are shit. I do not trust anything that the bitcoin core.

For pocket change BTC who cares... its pocket change BTC

You want your BTC paper wallet to one day burn down in a fire? With Trezor at least you can memorise the seed and even use it with an infected PC.

Encrypted wallet.dat in an encrypted container on an encrypted usb stick.

One at home, one at the bank, one at friends etc.

Yes, if the planet explodes im fucked.

USB sticks' memory last how many decades? Plus you will need to use a PC/Laptop to send coins. A compromised PC and your coins are gone.

they last many years, usually around 5 It depends on how many times you have made ​​the cancellation of data and the format used(ntfs or fat32 ecc...)

for the security problem use a dedicated laptop for your client, and your are done...or a VM too could work well

[Muhammed Zakir]

I like Case's design and its features. Trezor is cheaper. Both looks good. I might buy Case (to test it) when USD/BTC price increases. ATM the price is looks high in terms BTC.

[Amph]

isn't biometric better, especially if it is eye biometric and not footprints

i'm with the Case here, i've always liked biometric eyes more

Biometrics are convenient which creates a security benefit because you will use a sufficient amount of entropy on your password... but also have severe disadvantages because you end up leaving all your passwords everywhere in public and cannot change it if it gets compromised.

how "biometric eye"(retinal scan) can be compromised? they need to kill me, or force me to do it, if they ever know that i use my eye for something so important, they need to know that first otherwise they can't do nothing

but with footprints is different, you can live them everywhere, and someone can "take" those and use it to steal your money

[inBitweTrust]

how "biometric eye"(retinal scan) can be compromised? they need to kill me, or force me to do it, if they ever know that i use my eye for something so important, they need to know that first otherwise they can't do nothing

They already have been compromised and will continue to be compromised. Biometrics depend upon flawed security principles for the most part.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/07/red-flag-biometrics-iris-scanner-vulnerability-revealed
http://thehackernews.com/2015/03/iris-biometric-security-bypass.html
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1158008,00.asp

[Amph]

how "biometric eye"(retinal scan) can be compromised? they need to kill me, or force me to do it, if they ever know that i use my eye for something so important, they need to know that first otherwise they can't do nothing

They already have been compromised and will continue to be compromised. Biometrics depend upon flawed security principles for the most part.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/07/red-flag-biometrics-iris-scanner-vulnerability-revealed
http://thehackernews.com/2015/03/iris-biometric-security-bypass.html
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1158008,00.asp

you can improve it easily, by providing movements of the eyes to the scanner like an additional layer of security upon the retinal scan

it is possible to create a "password" with the movements of the eyes, for example besides the retinal scan you must move your eyes in circle for 2-3 times, or left to right, or combination of both

i would like to see how they could hack something like this... no a simple video can't cut it

[BitcoinNewsMagazine]

I own both a Case from the first production run and several Trezors. For day to day shopping the Case is faster. Certainly you can use your Trezor with Android phone with OTG cable but you usually would not do that checking out at a store. You would use your Case or Mycelium wallet on phone, and top up Mycelium with Trezor as needed. Trezor works wonderfully with Mycelium by the way.

Both Trezor and Case have their uses. If you can only afford one I would go for the Trezor at $99. The Case is a luxury item. For more information I have an in depth article on all hardware wallets (including the new BitLox) that you can read here.