Gauging interest. Custom Made S4/S4+ water block

[Evan]

Looking with a friend at getting a custom fabricated S4+ water block, more than likely going to get Alum, instead of copper due to corrosion issues that were seen with the C1 by bitmain.

Don't have prices yet, but Ill put the leg work in and work on getting everything together if people have interest.

[philipma1957]

  maybe I would go for one.  I never used water cooled miners.  Should do it once.

[MCHouston]

I would be interested.  Will these be compatible with the S4 also?

[philipma1957]

I would be interested.  Will these be compatible with the S4 also?

ditto to this question as the s4 are much lower in price.

[notlist3d]

I love that I don't see syscooling mentioned.  Please don't use any syscooling gear.

It was just a horrible company.

[dogie]

I love that I don't see syscooling mentioned.  Please don't use any syscooling gear.

It was just a horrible company.

I wouldn't mind if they made the blocks, but maybe not the pumps

[Biffa]

I love that I don't see syscooling mentioned.  Please don't use any syscooling gear.

It was just a horrible company.

I wouldn't use them if they gave me the parts free.. Too many issues with AL to Cu and Cu to Brass with this stuff.....

Stick with copper/acetal and don't bother nickel plating either, thats just a pita.

[Meech]

Sounds cool, eventually all home miners should take this route but it sounds pricey for the waterblock.  Is it just novelty?

[Meech]

Sounds cool, eventually all home miners should take this route but it sounds pricey for the waterblock.  Is it just novelty?

Since right now the main thing holding back the S4/S4+ is overheating issues, and you can save 100w by pulling those fans, I am thinking that over all its going to allow more stable overclock/clocking of the units, and allow longer life of the chips as running at 65+ is rough on even good chips.

You still have to power the pump and fans on the cooler though, so power isn't what you're saving on.

[dogie]

Sounds cool, eventually all home miners should take this route but it sounds pricey for the waterblock.  Is it just novelty?

Since right now the main thing holding back the S4/S4+ is overheating issues, and you can save 100w by pulling those fans, I am thinking that over all its going to allow more stable overclock/clocking of the units, and allow longer life of the chips as running at 65+ is rough on even good chips.

You still have to power the pump and fans on the cooler though, so power isn't what you're saving on.

That can be moved external to the inbuilt PSU to get more headroom is what he is suggesting, which is true.

[wlefever]

Interested

[quakefiend420]

Sounds cool, eventually all home miners should take this route but it sounds pricey for the waterblock.  Is it just novelty?

Since right now the main thing holding back the S4/S4+ is overheating issues, and you can save 100w by pulling those fans, I am thinking that over all its going to allow more stable overclock/clocking of the units, and allow longer life of the chips as running at 65+ is rough on even good chips.

You still have to power the pump and fans on the cooler though, so power isn't what you're saving on.

That can be moved external to the inbuilt PSU to get more headroom is what he is suggesting, which is true.

Mech, Maybe you misunderstood, this isnt to make the S4/S4+ user less power per se, its to increase thermal tolerance, decrease thermal variations, and explore the abilities of overclocking the unit as a whole.

I agree 100% with Dogie, also you wouldn't need as aggressive fans as the case has for water cooling as the cooling properties and thermal conductivity of water is an order of magnitude greater than air.

A conservative estimation puts the S4+ with better cooling able to run in the 3.2-3.5TH range,. and we'll never reach that on Air cooling alone.

Yeah, but can the board level voltage components deliver that sort of power reliably?

[GigaBit]

Maybe... I'm gonna be selling mine this summer before it loses too much value, only ordered it as a temp unit whilst upgrading.

As many others have stated, don't deal with SysCooling.
They killed an otherwise sweet miner, the C1.
If you must offer a kit, I suggest Darkside radiators and Swiftec pumps.
Been running non-stop for me for a few months now.
Me thinks miners learnt their lesson with cheap components.
Lucky for me, I had a pump waiting before the C1 arrived but still needed to replace the radiator, despite the pump being DOA.
Leaks really suck, even more if you didn't prepare and DOA pumps are a real flacid inducer.

As long as you don't touch SysCooling you should do well.
If anything, you should look at a liquid cooling kit for the S5; that I would definitely buy.

[dogie]

As long as you don't touch SysCooling you should do well.
If anything, you should look at a liquid cooling kit for the S5; that I would definitely buy.

Syscooling did an S5 kit. And lets be honest, they were providing entire kits for the C1 [-blocks] for less than we could buy just the radiator. You could have also bought 6 pumps from them for the same price as one of our usual retail ones. But yeah, those pumps did tend to fail a lot.

[kano]

As long as you don't touch SysCooling you should do well.
If anything, you should look at a liquid cooling kit for the S5; that I would definitely buy.

Syscooling did an S5 kit. And lets be honest, they were providing entire kits for the C1 [-blocks] for less than we could buy just the radiator. You could have also bought 6 pumps from them for the same price as one of our usual retail ones. But yeah, those pumps did tend to fail a lot.

You were buying C1 radiators and pump kit parts and selling them?

[dogie]

As long as you don't touch SysCooling you should do well.
If anything, you should look at a liquid cooling kit for the S5; that I would definitely buy.

Syscooling did an S5 kit. And lets be honest, they were providing entire kits for the C1 [-blocks] for less than we could buy just the radiator. You could have also bought 6 pumps from them for the same price as one of our usual retail ones. But yeah, those pumps did tend to fail a lot.

You were buying C1 radiators and pump kit parts and selling them?

No. What I mean was Syscooling was selling and shipping us entire watercooling kits for less than we could buy just the radiator in local markets.

[mavericklm]

interested! in a cooper one, not alu!

cooper more resistant in time
big rads are cooper because of the above

[dogie]

interested! in a cooper one, not alu!

cooper more resistant in time
big rads are cooper because of the above

Making the same block from copper as it is aluminium would increase the weight 3x and the price 9x. Increasing corrosion resistance isn't worth that.

[mavericklm]

i was talking for myself

i need it in cooper so it doesn’t get more complicated with heat exchangers extra pumps and shit

[philipma1957]

So dogie was  saying the s4+ volts are fixed causing the power draw to be linear on the s4+

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1035657.msg11336299#msg11336299


Since this is the case I do not want a water block as my needs call for under clock and under volt and quiet.