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May 09, 2015, 06:01:45 PM
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Director of National Intelligence Jim Clapper wasn’t lying when he wrongly told Congress in 2013 that the government does not “wittingly” collect information about millions of Americans, according to his top lawyer.

He just forgot.

“This was not an untruth or a falsehood. This was just a mistake on his part,” Robert Litt, the general counsel for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, said during a panel discussion hosted by the Advisory Committee on Transparency on Friday.

“We all make mistakes.”

The comments add to the years of criticism that Clapper has received for his testimony in the 2013 Senate Intelligence Committee hearing.
In the public session, longtime surveillance critic Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) had asked Clapper whether or not the NSA collected “any type of data at all on millions of Americans.”

“No sir,” Clapper responded. “There are cases where they could inadvertently perhaps collect, but not wittingly.”

Just a few months later, however, leaks from Edward Snowden proved Clapper wrong. As documents released by Snowden made clear, the NSA collects records about millions of Americans’ phone calls under a program the government has said is authorized by Section 215 of the Patriot Act.

After the fact, Clapper has said that his statement was the “least untruthful” possible answer, given the secrecy of the program at the time.

Still, critics such as Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) have called for Clapper to resign over the flap, which they say amounts to perjury.

Litt on Friday said that Clapper merely did not have a chance to prepare an answer for Wyden and forgot about the phone records program when asked about it on the spot.

“We were notified the day before that Sen. Wyden was going to ask this question and the director of national intelligence did not get a chance to review it,” Litt said.

“He was hit unaware by the question,” Litt added. “After this hearing I went to him and I said, ‘Gee, you were wrong on this.’ And it was perfectly clear that he had absolutely forgotten the existence of the 215 program.”

Instead, Litt said, Clapper had been thinking about separate programs authorized under Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which the NSA has used to collect massive amounts of foreigners’ Internet data. The law explicitly prohibits the government from gathering the same kind of data about Americans, unless t is “incidental.”

“If you read his answer it is perfectly clear that he was thinking about the 702 program,” Litt said. “When he is talking about not wittingly collecting, he is talking about incidental collection.”

Litt, he said, also erred after the hearing by not sending a letter to the panel to correct the mistake.

“I wish we’d done that at the time,” he said on Friday.



http://thehill.com/policy/technology/241508-spy-head-had-absolutely-forgotten-about-nsa-program


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How come, we the people, cannot use the same excuses facing people like him?



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May 09, 2015, 09:41:56 PM
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No F-ing kidding. Geez louise, I simply forgot that the kilo of crack was in my center counsel.  Roll Eyes This is such an in your face way of the elite saying point blank that you can't tough them, and certainly not a spy chief.

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Litt on Friday said that Clapper merely did not have a chance to prepare an answer for Wyden and forgot about the phone records program when asked about it on the spot.
Not prepared to answer sounds to me that this thing was supposed to be scripted if they're being truthful about not having an answer prepared and then a lie would be sufficient in lieu of one. I can't believe anyone could possibly think that an official would have forgotten about the most top secret scam they were pulling. Again, just and FU to anyone out there that has a problem w/ it, namely Rand and his fellow civil libertarian supporters. No normal and good citizens would even have this on their minds. The lawyer that made this statement must feel either stupid for having to frame it this way or just as big a dick as his client.
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May 12, 2015, 07:37:56 PM
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No F-ing kidding. Geez louise, I simply forgot that the kilo of crack was in my center counsel.  Roll Eyes This is such an in your face way of the elite saying point blank that you can't tough them, and certainly not a spy chief.

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Litt on Friday said that Clapper merely did not have a chance to prepare an answer for Wyden and forgot about the phone records program when asked about it on the spot.
Not prepared to answer sounds to me that this thing was supposed to be scripted if they're being truthful about not having an answer prepared and then a lie would be sufficient in lieu of one. I can't believe anyone could possibly think that an official would have forgotten about the most top secret scam they were pulling. Again, just and FU to anyone out there that has a problem w/ it, namely Rand and his fellow civil libertarian supporters. No normal and good citizens would even have this on their minds. The lawyer that made this statement must feel either stupid for having to frame it this way or just as big a dick as his client.


We see how a system is been destroyed from within. After a while the people and the law enforcers forget what the purpose of everything was and you end up in its slow implosion...


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