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May 11, 2015, 02:04:56 AM |
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... Thorough mixing of coins is a great idea, IMO. Even if only to practice doing it and learning the system. Mixing will weed out some of the privacy abusers as Lyth0s pointed out above. I have no idea if the NSA and their buds (probably) could easily break bitmixer.io and sharedcoin.com (for blockchain.info wallets), but hardly anyone else could, with the mixing done right. I personally think the mixers provide a much-needed and great service. JUST those two above I mentioned, almost EVERY OTHER mixer has bad reviews... *** Do follow instructions though. ***
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May 11, 2015, 02:25:36 AM |
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That would only be embarrassing if my family or my boss found out, but the government? I couldn't care less if they find out I masturbate every night.
At the risk of stating the obvious, if you're getting paid in Bitcoin, your boss knows your Bitcoin addresses, and hence will find out. Companies monitor what their employees post on social media; do you think they won't monitor Bitcoin transactions too?
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Will pretend to do unspeakable things (while actually eating a taco) for bitcoins: 1K6d1EviQKX3SVKjPYmJGyWBb1avbmCFM4I am not on the scammers' paradise known as Telegram! Do not believe anyone claiming to be me off-forum without a signed message from the above address! Accept no excuses and make no exceptions!
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R2D221
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May 11, 2015, 02:33:50 AM |
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That would only be embarrassing if my family or my boss found out, but the government? I couldn't care less if they find out I masturbate every night.
At the risk of stating the obvious, if you're getting paid in Bitcoin, your boss knows your Bitcoin addresses, and hence will find out. Companies monitor what their employees post on social media; do you think they won't monitor Bitcoin transactions too? How can they know I spent money in le sexy stuff if the shop, properly, generates a new address for every sale? Is the effort to analyze all the blockchain and the relations between the addresses and other businesses worth discovering an employee's sex habits?
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An economy based on endless growth is unsustainable.
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May 11, 2015, 03:30:17 AM |
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Besides mixers, I also recommend to never buy BTC from an exchange in the country you're staying in. That's what I do.
It's a paradox, If you don't use the exchange, how do you buy bitcoin? Anonymity is not that important, if we just use it for legal purpose, i don't think we need anonymous.
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May 11, 2015, 03:46:20 AM |
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Besides mixers, I also recommend to never buy BTC from an exchange in the country you're staying in. That's what I do.
It's a paradox, If you don't use the exchange, how do you buy bitcoin? Anonymity is not that important, if we just use it for legal purpose, i don't think we need anonymous. He is speaking the truth. If you don't want to pay taxes in the future, when exchange you are using now, will give out your personal information to the IRS. Then you better don't use local exchanges. Instead you can acquire bitcoin via localbitcoins.com It is probably the astest and easiest way to buy and sell bitcoins while being anonymous.
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May 11, 2015, 03:50:41 AM |
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well i don't do that because i think bitcoin's anonimity is already good for me
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May 11, 2015, 06:58:47 AM |
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That would only be embarrassing if my family or my boss found out, but the government? I couldn't care less if they find out I masturbate every night.
At the risk of stating the obvious, if you're getting paid in Bitcoin, your boss knows your Bitcoin addresses, and hence will find out. Companies monitor what their employees post on social media; do you think they won't monitor Bitcoin transactions too? yeah they know that address, but who said that i'm gonna receive other income in the same address? not to mention that every other transactions will be done from different transaction, this feature isn't present in bitcoin, they should add it, i want to select from wich address my transaction goes out
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May 11, 2015, 07:06:23 AM Last edit: May 11, 2015, 09:27:03 AM by twister |
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No I don't use mixers or other stuff maybe because I only use bitcoins to either gamble or buy some digital goods and I don't feel it's really necessary to hide anything whilst doing that. That would only be embarrassing if my family or my boss found out, but the government? I couldn't care less if they find out I masturbate every night.
At the risk of stating the obvious, if you're getting paid in Bitcoin, your boss knows your Bitcoin addresses, and hence will find out. Companies monitor what their employees post on social media; do you think they won't monitor Bitcoin transactions too? How can they know I spent money in le sexy stuff if the shop, properly, generates a new address for every sale? Is the effort to analyze all the blockchain and the relations between the addresses and other businesses worth discovering an employee's sex habits? I don't think they can track it even if they wanted to and they won't bother to do it.
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May 11, 2015, 09:54:18 AM |
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I have a new Bitcoin acct and I'm setting up a VPN so google and the rest of the world does not need to know my every move in life from where i want to eat all the way to dealing with the rash on my.......... Not that it matters I guess, but at the end of the day the chain as they say is only as strong as the weakest link and if I use bitcoin to pay for the service isn't it ultimately traceable to me and if so how do I fix that?
Anonymity is a joke, even if you use Bitcoin addresses only once. I use Tor for some degree of privacy, but only to hide my spending habits from curious people. {You have the right to the same privacy, when you use other payment methods}
I use Mixers to mess around and waste other people's time, who want to track my crypto use.
If some expert really want to trace your coins, they could just use other methods. There are too many other vulnerabilities for people to use, like Trojan's / Key loggers / Browser finger printing / VPN tracking etc..
Let's just accept that we have no true anonymity, and let's continue as normal...
What? What are you on about? Of course we can have true anonymity. Who says we have no true anonymity? That's like saying that Santa does not exist.... UM OK....Wait...WHAT??!!! Are you trying to say that there is no and never has been a Santa??!! Yeah right....HELLO where do you think my Red Ryder Carbine Action 200-shot Range Model air rifle with a compass in the stock came from when I was 8 years old??
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May 11, 2015, 09:58:25 AM |
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I don't need no mixer to stay hidden/anonymous and neither does anyone unless they are serious criminals, there are basic coin control techniques that can keep you as anonymous as needed. If I was upto no good though I would mix the coins a few times depending how naughty I had been
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May 11, 2015, 10:00:03 AM |
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Need to know your opinion. Do you use Bitcoin Mixers/Tumblers/Anonymizers ?
I don't have that much BTC to actually matter. But for privacy I use Monero. I actually hold more Monero than BTC right now. And instead of using mixers I would use in-built mix-in of Monero. At least I have control over my own money. Maybe this sounds more like a commercial, sorry, it's not intended.
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May 11, 2015, 10:07:58 AM |
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Need to know your opinion. Do you use Bitcoin Mixers/Tumblers/Anonymizers ?
I don't have that much BTC to actually matter. But for privacy I use Monero. I actually hold more Monero than BTC right now. And instead of using mixers I would use in-built mix-in of Monero. At least I have control over my own money. Maybe this sounds more like a commercial, sorry, it's not intended.I'm gonna check out Monero to see what you're talking about maybe I can use it.....um I mean I totally know what it is, I'm just gonna go to their website to see if ....... to see what you're talking about cuz I have no clue what it is. OK I said it.....I'm ignorant....happy?
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NeuroticFish
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May 11, 2015, 10:34:00 AM |
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I'm gonna check out Monero to see what you're talking about maybe I can use it.....um I mean I totally know what it is, I'm just gonna go to their website to see if ....... to see what you're talking about cuz I have no clue what it is. OK I said it.....I'm ignorant....happy?
Basically for any transaction you do you have an extra parameter: the mixin. Bigger you set that parameter, more anonymous the transaction will actually be. Actually most people started asking and using mixin at least 3 for privacy reasons. But yeah, go on, read
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May 11, 2015, 10:38:59 AM |
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I'm gonna check out Monero to see what you're talking about maybe I can use it.....um I mean I totally know what it is, I'm just gonna go to their website to see if ....... to see what you're talking about cuz I have no clue what it is. OK I said it.....I'm ignorant....happy?
Basically for any transaction you do you have an extra parameter: the mixin. Bigger you set that parameter, more anonymous the transaction will actually be. Actually most people started asking and using mixin at least 3 for privacy reasons. But yeah, go on, read Thank very much for the info it is a big help and probably will solve this particular concern of mine. (But I totally knew that)
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May 11, 2015, 10:52:57 AM |
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No, I am not use such service. I am not doing anything illegal, then why I use that?
Doesn't have to be illegal to be private. Some folks are embarrassed about things like buying a dirty magazine and a tube of hand lotion. That would only be embarrassing if my family or my boss found out, but the government? I couldn't care less if they find out I masturbate every night. Every night? Really? That's all? What do you do in the mornings and at lunch time and for your mid afternoon break and before dinner and at 3am when you wake up to pee?
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May 11, 2015, 03:12:52 PM |
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I don't need no mixer to stay hidden/anonymous and neither does anyone unless they are serious criminals.
Classic case of sleeping ignorant people, just like pre-bitcoin
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