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May 09, 2015, 09:09:01 PM
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infinitechaos said it's now open! Is it better than XMR, Dash, and SDC? Does anybody give a shit? Does anybody believe him? Is my grammar ok? https://github.com/atcsecure |
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May 09, 2015, 09:21:21 PM |
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infinitechaos said it's now open! Is it better than XMR, Dash, and SDC? Does anybody give a shit? Does anybody believe him? Is my grammar ok?
Are you using two spaces after sentence ending punctuation?  |
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Chew Kok (OP)
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May 10, 2015, 12:50:55 AM |
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Chew Kok (OP)
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May 10, 2015, 01:15:24 AM |
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infinitechaos: "Screw you Chew Kok! XC has the best development in cryptos! Just look at our design below, and see how we are fighting back"! 
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May 10, 2015, 08:55:36 AM |
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I guess in theory closed source in this space can be used to protect the investors by protecting the code base or fleece investors into telling them something is better than it is.
Closed source for an anonymous coin is flawed in too many ways for me to count. It's difficult for me to have too much sympathy for people who took the initiative seriously & didn't see the writing on the wall. But then again - I've done stupid shit with other coins so to each their own.
Sorry for the losses. Sorry Dan dumped the shit out of you guys while he was pumping the coin. Sorry that scams can continue unchecked and unpunished in this space.
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Chew Kok (OP)
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May 10, 2015, 09:42:22 AM |
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I guess in theory closed source in this space can be used to protect the investors by protecting the code base or fleece investors into telling them something is better than it is.
Closed source for an anonymous coin is flawed in too many ways for me to count. It's difficult for me to have too much sympathy for people who took the initiative seriously & didn't see the writing on the wall. But then again - I've done stupid shit with other coins so to each their own.
Sorry for the losses. Sorry Dan dumped the shit out of you guys while he was pumping the coin. Sorry that scams can continue unchecked and unpunished in this space.
Why are you apologizing? Did they show you any empathy when Jasinlee screwed you? |
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May 10, 2015, 10:04:05 AM |
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Sorry for the losses. Sorry Dan dumped the shit out of you guys while he was pumping the coin.
Dan actually never "pumped" the coin. Like all coins there was a religious fervour that could never be sustained whilst it was closed source. Dan had an innovative idea, that being "multipath" , which seemed to be an improvement on Darkcoin in principle. It probably still is Other people did pump the coin but not Dan. Like most alt coins this the focus became making a quick buck, whilst Dan may or may not have been interested in a quick buck , he probably had and has more of an interest in "privacy" than most in the crypto space. I don't own any XC but might as well set the record straight |
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May 10, 2015, 10:12:27 AM |
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I guess in theory closed source in this space can be used to protect the investors by protecting the code base or fleece investors into telling them something is better than it is.
Closed source for an anonymous coin is flawed in too many ways for me to count. It's difficult for me to have too much sympathy for people who took the initiative seriously & didn't see the writing on the wall. But then again - I've done stupid shit with other coins so to each their own.
Sorry for the losses. Sorry Dan dumped the shit out of you guys while he was pumping the coin. Sorry that scams can continue unchecked and unpunished in this space.
Why are you apologizing? Did they show you any empathy when Jasinlee screwed you? If Jasinlee screwed anyone then, let's at least be honest about it. It had nothing to do with Dan. No one (or hardly anyone) likes to see people lose money but we can't blame Dan if someone gave money to Jasinlee for an unrelated matter. And if you go back and read the thread Dan of all the people did show some empathy. But what was he supposed to do? He wished he'd never got involved with Jasinlee also |
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May 10, 2015, 04:26:43 PM |
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If Jasinlee screwed anyone then, let's at least be honest about it. It had nothing to do with Dan. No one (or hardly anyone) likes to see people lose money but we can't blame Dan if someone gave money to Jasinlee for an unrelated matter. Yea so first there is no "if" - it's documented. He personally has about $3K worth of my money and I haven't heard from him for several months after promised delivery so there is no "if". And yes - Dan did have at least something to do with it. There was blatant defense of Jasinlee & attack on me for bringing the issue to light. Only after constant defense and attempt to defame blew up in XC's face did they begrudgingly take Jasinlee's name off the website. After that - it came up that Jasinlee was still working with XC. Jasinlee also partnered with XC to go to a show & based on some chats I have a very strong suspicion that investor funds were dumping into buying XC. Why are you apologizing? Did they show you any empathy when Jasinlee screwed you? Because they were simply cheerleading fools being milked by a word twisting PR wanna be & a dev who insisted on trying to sell his anonymity software "closed sourced". By selling all the coins BEFORE releasing the source code ... it is beyond dishonest due to the nature of anonymity & closed / open sourced. And no. They did show no sympathy. I have a feeling several of them lost as much or money than I did at this point though ... |
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May 10, 2015, 11:01:58 PM |
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If Jasinlee screwed anyone then, let's at least be honest about it. It had nothing to do with Dan. No one (or hardly anyone) likes to see people lose money but we can't blame Dan if someone gave money to Jasinlee for an unrelated matter. Yea so first there is no "if" - it's documented. He personally has about $3K worth of my money and I haven't heard from him for several months after promised delivery so there is no "if". And yes - Dan did have at least something to do with it. There was blatant defense of Jasinlee & attack on me for bringing the issue to light. You tried to attack XC, but the problem was you were a fool. Dan didn't make you give money to Jasin. Dan never told you to give money to Jasin You foolishly gave money yo Jasin (apparently), but you seem to want to blame anyone but yourself. Even if Dan defended Jasin, and I think you are wrong on that.( Dan said he wished he'd never got involved with him). But even if he did he had nothing to do with you choosing to give $3000 to someone you didn't know. Why are you trying to blame Dan for your choice? |
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May 11, 2015, 03:56:22 AM
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You tried to attack XC, but the problem was you were a fool. Dan didn't make you give money to Jasin. Dan never told you to give money to Jasin
You foolishly gave money yo Jasin (apparently), but you seem to want to blame anyone but yourself.
Even if Dan defended Jasin, and I think you are wrong on that.( Dan said he wished he'd never got involved with him). But even if he did he had nothing to do with you choosing to give $3000 to someone you didn't know.
Why are you trying to blame Dan for your choice? I really am sick of discussing this. I merely brought out the fact over and over again that Jasinlee was linked to XC. Only after constant defending from the XC PR team, me being accused of "being stupid" "Jasinlee didn't scam anyone" etc etc etc for a long period of time were they willing to take him off the team. They never did anything until he got to be too big of a PR burden (well actually long after ... but anyways). In fact - if I recall the chronological timeline correctly I brought up the issue a few times in the XC thread. I was told Jasinlee was removed. A month later I noticed an XC follower asking about crosschains and the Jasinlee developer. Arlyn/Synchist said it was still in development, they were still working with him etc & he was still listed on the website. At that point I raised a stink in the XC thread - they banned me & I started my own thread. Did Dan take my money? Nope. Did Dan leave a bad taste in my mouth by defending and keeping the guy on his team long after the guy took my money? Yep. Did Dan's PR team lie (either about Jasinlee being ON the team or OFF the team) Yes. Does Dan have plenty of his own dirty laundry? Absolutely. Am I the bigger moron for trusting Jasinlee or are you the bigger moron for buying closed sourced anonymous tokens? Hard to say. All shit aside - has anyone reviewed the open source? I really have seen nothing either pro or con about it. Is it so irrelevant now that no one cares? Or what's going on with it? I have a hard time believing there isn't some type of opinion / review out there |
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May 11, 2015, 05:38:04 AM |
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Am I the bigger moron for trusting Jasinlee or are you the bigger moron for buying closed sourced anonymous tokens? Hard to say.
Do you really want me to answer that? I don't own any XC and haven't for some time. I probably came out about square, but had very little invested. I really am sick of discussing this. I merely brought out the fact over and over again that Jasinlee was linked to XC. Only after constant defending from the XC PR team, me being accused of "being stupid" "Jasinlee didn't scam anyone" Who in the XC team ever said "Jasinlee didn't scam anyone"? |
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May 12, 2015, 06:12:48 AM
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Am I the bigger moron for trusting Jasinlee or are you the bigger moron for buying closed sourced anonymous tokens? Hard to say.
Do you really want me to answer that? I don't own any XC and haven't for some time. I probably came out about square, but had very little invested. I really am sick of discussing this. I merely brought out the fact over and over again that Jasinlee was linked to XC. Only after constant defending from the XC PR team, me being accused of "being stupid" "Jasinlee didn't scam anyone" Who in the XC team ever said "Jasinlee didn't scam anyone"? If you're interested in how the team responded - it's documented here. All quotes are from Teka or Synchest. Obviously you have a different agenda so you'll disagree. For whatever it's worth - I sold my shares to someone who wanted to bet on Jasinlee's integrity (maybe the XC PR team?) Took a 50% loss ... So no reviews on the open source? |
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May 12, 2015, 06:18:20 AM |
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Am I the bigger moron for trusting Jasinlee or are you the bigger moron for buying closed sourced anonymous tokens? Hard to say.
Do you really want me to answer that? I don't own any XC and haven't for some time. I probably came out about square, but had very little invested. I really am sick of discussing this. I merely brought out the fact over and over again that Jasinlee was linked to XC. Only after constant defending from the XC PR team, me being accused of "being stupid" "Jasinlee didn't scam anyone" Who in the XC team ever said "Jasinlee didn't scam anyone"? If you're interested in how the team responded - it's documented here. "You have no proof" after plenty is given is the same as proclaiming innocence (not proven guilty) in my book. Obviously you have a different agenda so you'll disagree. For whatever it's worth - I sold my shares to someone who wanted to bet on Jasinlee's integrity (maybe the XC PR team?) Took a 50% loss ... So no reviews on the open source? Where did anyone from XC'x team say "Jasinlee didn't scam anyone" ? That was your claim. Where did they say that? It looks like you claimed you gave jasin $5000 and that he didn't give you what was promised. So at least one of the XC guys asked you what proof you had. Which is a reasonable thing to ask, isn't it? Or should they just have accepted at that time, what you said, without any proof??  |
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May 12, 2015, 06:24:56 AM |
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Or should they just have accepted at that time, what you said, without any proof?? Huh
I provided PLENTY of proof. They blindly defended Jasinlee without reading all of the links I provided and proof I listed. In fact - no more *proof* has been provided since that post. This is such old news & I've completely derailed the original thread. What happened with the open source - did anyone review it? |
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May 12, 2015, 05:26:10 PM |
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I seem to recall that Jasinlee was defended and kept as a team member for quite sometime despite his very questionable business dealings with many community members. When rumblings about Jasinlee became too heavy then he was quietly removed from the website and further questioning was avoided. Despite his removal from the website, it's anyone's guess as to if he was allowed to continue collaboration with the team and under what capacity.
This was all just another example of the team keeping info close to their chests. The community and users were never as much as a concern in comparison to insiders saving face and getting theirs.
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May 13, 2015, 03:20:08 AM |
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That is all correct. Except that after being removed from their website - it was confirmed in their chat thread that he was still working on the project & that's when I threw a fit.
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May 13, 2015, 05:07:33 PM |
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That is all correct. Except that after being removed from their website - it was confirmed in their chat thread that he was still working on the project & that's when I threw a fit.
Yes I do remember this. Judging from their reactions throughout the situation it seemed likely that Jasinlee never left the team, they just learned to downplay his involvement publicly. |
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