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May 17, 2015, 11:14:16 PM
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Well who knows only admin knows when the new forums will be ready to use. If theirs problems then theirs problems and delays. To be honest all that is really needed is SMF updating and not having to use totally new forum based software and to make things more secure than to use older versions. Yes theirs a lot of wok being one on the new one with new code and so forth. No doubt going to take till towards end of the year if things don't speed up.

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May 17, 2015, 11:17:08 PM
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I haven't heard anything about this new forum in the works.  Is it based on Simple Machines?

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I haven't heard anything about this new forum in the works.  Is it based on Simple Machines?

No from what I been reading in here new forum software it is going to be built from the ground up and new and moving away from SMF from what I have read up on so far.

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May 18, 2015, 04:42:45 AM
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Will there be any beta testing for some select members or previews or anything that was supposed to be released?

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May 18, 2015, 04:51:38 AM
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Will there be any beta testing for some select members or previews or anything that was supposed to be released?

It is in first page. Didn't you read?

I remember seeing a post saying Beta will be available in early 2015. Now, it is about June.. I wonder when will Beta be released. Or maybe the administrators and some others is having closed beta.

It's a general purpose forum that's intended to compete with others. Once the theme engine is in place, we'll be able to get more involvement from the public. For now, you can check out the source. On top of that a beta is being evaluated with the staff at this point so please sit tight.

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Sorry, didn't see the testing mentioned

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May 21, 2015, 08:37:14 AM
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They said the million forum would come in early 2015 last year, but now it's almost June, 2015...
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May 21, 2015, 08:56:55 AM
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They said the million forum would come in early 2015 last year, but now it's almost June, 2015...

To be fair, "They" were just giving a wild guess. No one was ever given a firm deadline, people asked for a guess, and it was given. Something else to consider, Theymos and Slickage had a basic idea of what needed to be done. So many additional features have since been added beyond the basic plan, it would be ridiculous to think that the original quote would still apply.  In reality, Slickage is creating two different forums. Epochtalk and Bitcointalk. One to be the blank slate that will be the open source anyone can use software (epochtalk). And then Bitcointalk has to be built on top of that blank slate that was created in the first place.

It might not be done this year, it might be. It might not be done in 2016 for all we know. Rather than giving estimate completion dates, its far more appropriate to say when it wont be done. It wont be done this month. I'd also say it wont be done in June. At the end of June, I'll let you know if I think it will be done in July, and so on.

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June 12, 2015, 12:34:15 PM
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Even the team working behind this might not have a clue on release date. Better take much time and get a proper output. As you can see many product with a proper base taking around 4-5 years for the final release even it does have bugs. So take much time and release a proper one other than one with lot of bugs. Current forum which a well established software serves a better platform for now. Everyone is too eager to see the new product. But must understand that SMF is a long run project with lot of contributors so not expect much on new forum tool.
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Even the team working behind this might not have a clue on release date.

this is applicable for few bucks projected leaded by 2 high-school students. but this is little bit different scenario, we are talking about 1.5M USD project. Based on my experience with similar projects in enterprise, there is always project management, milestones, regular communication and ETA for delivery, which is adjusted every week..

I really hope, that ETA is known.
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you can expect the new epochtalk forum to be done when theymos runs out of money (in 3 to 4 months)
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Even the team working behind this might not have a clue on release date.

this is applicable for few bucks projected leaded by 2 high-school students. but this is little bit different scenario, we are talking about 1.5M USD project. Based on my experience with similar projects in enterprise, there is always project management, milestones, regular communication and ETA for delivery, which is adjusted every week..

I really hope, that ETA is known.
You may also know that when it comes to software it is frequently delayed. Any ETAs are simply guesses. There are always issues that need to be resolved, and you need to first figure out how to solve them before you can actually do it. This means the variance is huge. Sometimes a bug is fixed in one line of code after five minutes, sometimes it leads to a complete redesign of a system.

I'm not making any statements about this particular case because I'm not informed enough. But software is something that is constantly improved by developers. You shouldn't be talking about release dates and ETAs because those things are almost meaningless. What matters is the speed and quality of development. So we shouldn't ask when it's getting released, we should ask if they're putting enough developer effort to be worth $100,000 a month.
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Even the team working behind this might not have a clue on release date.

this is applicable for few bucks projected leaded by 2 high-school students. but this is little bit different scenario, we are talking about 1.5M USD project. Based on my experience with similar projects in enterprise, there is always project management, milestones, regular communication and ETA for delivery, which is adjusted every week..

I really hope, that ETA is known.
You may also know that when it comes to software it is frequently delayed. Any ETAs are simply guesses. There are always issues that need to be resolved, and you need to first figure out how to solve them before you can actually do it. This means the variance is huge. Sometimes a bug is fixed in one line of code after five minutes, sometimes it leads to a complete redesign of a system.

I'm not making any statements about this particular case because I'm not informed enough. But software is something that is constantly improved by developers. You shouldn't be talking about release dates and ETAs because those things are almost meaningless. What matters is the speed and quality of development. So we shouldn't ask when it's getting released, we should ask if they're putting enough developer effort to be worth $100,000 a month.

About two out of three giant software projects end in complete failure. I have heard programmers advise others to run rather than walk away from any giant project. I'm sure the new forum will eventually be up and running, but if the devs have a deadline forced on them it will either not be finished in time or be a fail.

The devs also have to grapple with the problem of feature creep, where loads of threads here are suggesting new features to add when they haven't got the basic thing finished yet. Every new feature will take time to integrate, and some new suggested features could break whatever they have already done and force them to rewrite the whole thing.
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September 05, 2015, 08:17:01 PM
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Since it is an update, right? I am worried about one thing,
The posts and the rank of the members will still stay ?
Or it will be a completely new forum and we should register again? I hope to see the new update by the end of the year.

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The posts and the rank of the members will still stay ?

Yes, no need to worry about it. Pretty much everything will be carried over.

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September 05, 2015, 10:34:16 PM
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The posts and the rank of the members will still stay ?

Yes, no need to worry about it. Pretty much everything will be carried over.

Any eta?
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The public beta of Epochtalk on this forum needs the green light from theymos first, so it's up to him. A lot of the work has already been done though. You can follow the development here: https://github.com/epochtalk

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September 07, 2015, 10:23:31 PM
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The posts and the rank of the members will still stay ?

Yes, no need to worry about it. Pretty much everything will be carried over.

Thank you, i just checked the github project and seems good,
Including me there are lots of suggestion made in this subforum and i think it's requires too much time to implement most of them which are very useful.
I think all of us are excited to see the new design, new platform and a new feeling. Smiley

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