Which is the fastest miner?

[king_pin]

Regardless of VGA, drivers, settings, CPU bugs, output, user interface etc.

Which miner gives the highest Hash Rate?




EDIT: I say it is Phoenix-1.64/phatk2 with ATI 11.9 for 5xxx and 6xxx cards

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[grue]

if you take out the output, user interface, all you're left with is the kernel, which is the same for all the major miners. (just swap the kernel file)

[king_pin]

Don't try to be a smartass, just answer the question!

In my experience Phoenix 1.64 with phatk2 gives 20-30MH/s than anything else. But it has been almost an year since I'm using that combo, isn't there anything faster nowadays?

[crazyates]

Well it's always different for every piece of hardware! A lot of the programs already use the same kernels, so it's just a matter of how to provide work fast enough for the GPU to stay busy. In that regard, I've always used CGMiner.

As far as the kernel goes, phatk2 might give you better results (are you on 5xxx cards?), but for me, I lose 20-30MH/s going from poclbm to phatk (7xxx cards). It all depends on your GPU type, driver, SDK, core speed, mem speed, vectors, worksize... etc.

[king_pin]

Yes, mainly it depends on driver and SDK:

Phoenix/phatk2, ATI 11.9

• 5870 at 945/300 - 435Mh/s

CG or GUI/poclbm - ATI 12.4

• 5870 at 945/300 - 415Mh/s

This is with optimal flags, and for the first one of course with CPU bug. All my GPUs are 5xxx series, but it goes the same for the 6xxx series.

[crazyates]

Yes, mainly it depends on driver and SDK:

Phoenix/phatk2, ATI 11.9

• 5870 at 945/300 - 435Mh/s

CG or GUI/poclbm - ATI 12.4

• 5870 at 945/300 - 415Mh/s

This is with optimal flags, and for the first one of course with CPU bug. All my GPUs are 5xxx series, but it goes the same for the 6xxx series.

IIRC, 12.4 has SDK2.6, which will account for your loss speed. Drivers themselves don't really affect your hash speed a significant amount, but the SDK that gets bundled with the drives does.

[king_pin]

Thanks for the explanation dude, but this are things I know for more than 1 year now. Just because I'm new to the forum doesn't mean that I'm a noob

So anyways no constructive answers and from what I read CG miner does nothing that I cant do with a few .bat files so I'm sticking with the good old Phoenix/phatk2

[crazyates]

Thanks for the explanation dude, but this are things I know for more than 1 year now. Just because I'm new to the forum doesn't mean that I'm a noob

Haha I'm not in the habit of checking every person's join date when they ask a noob impossible to answer question like what miner is faster when they only have 20 posts.

[king_pin]

 
It is not impossible, it is hard do answer 
I just wanted to save some time from checking each miner thread, hoping that someone will tell me, no there isn't anything new faster than phatk2 with the old sdk but I guess I had to do my own homework

[crazyates]

Regardless of VGA, drivers, settings, CPU bugs, output, user interface etc.

Which miner gives the highest Hash Rate?

EDIT: I say it is Phoenix-1.64/phatk2 with ATI 11.9

You asking the wrong question?  You should be asking, which miner will make you most money with your rig(s).

I'd say cgminer because of its control features, remote API and statistics.

You can tweak it to perform best with YOUR particular hardware.

I'm still using cgminer because of it's control, but technically Diablo gets me ~5-6MH/s more, even if cgminer is using diablo's kernel with the same settings.

[Fiyasko]

Well well, I was about to walk in and go "your an idiot, It's based off your hardware"
and read the OP and thought "Hmm, That really is something to wonder"

But ultimatley, This question is NEARLY unanswerable, Your gonna need all of the Minning Software creators to run through testing of Evverrry set of settings for every set of drivers/hardware
Sheesh, You really almost cannot answer this question correctly.

Ofcourse YOUR gonna feel that Phoenix-1.64/phatk2 with ATI 11.9 is the best
But that Only because of your 5xxx series card (seriously)

If i try Phatk2 with my 7xxx I lose 80mh/s And i Cant even USE <Cat 12.x

[crazyates]

Well well, I was about to walk in and go "your an idiot, It's based off your hardware"
and read the OP and thought "Hmm, That really is something to wonder"

But ultimatley, This question is NEARLY unanswerable, Your gonna need all of the Minning Software creators to run through testing of Evverrry set of settings for every set of drivers/hardware
Sheesh, You really almost cannot answer this question correctly.

Ofcourse YOUR gonna feel that Phoenix-1.64/phatk2 with ATI 11.9 is the best
But that Only because of your 5xxx series card (seriously)

If i try Phatk2 with my 7xxx I lose 80mh/s And i Cant even USE <Cat 12.x

Phatk is a kernel. He's asking about mining software. Phoenix and cgminer both use the phatk kernel. On the same hardware, OS, driver, SDK, kernel, vectors, worksize, etc, will cgminer run faster than phoenix?

[Fiyasko]

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Phatk is a kernel. He's asking about mining software. Phoenix and cgminer both use the phatk kernel. On the same hardware, OS, driver, SDK, kernel, vectors, worksize, etc, will cgminer run faster than phoenix?

Roight Roight, Sorry bout that, Well for me comparing GUIminer/Phoenix/BFGminer/CGminer CGminer was the best by 2mh/s and gave Profound internal features

[king_pin]

You asking the wrong question?  You should be asking, which miner will make you most money with your rig(s).
I'd say cgminer because of its control features, remote API and statistics.
You can tweak it to perform best with YOUR particular hardware.

It isn't the wrong question, because I don't care how much electricity i use up and I don't care about statistics and tweaks because I can do them all with .bat files and some controllers.
I have been mining before the time of GUI interfaces and CG miner, so I had to figure my own ways of doing that.

...Phoenix and cgminer both use the phatk kernel...

To my knowledge CG miner is 20-30MH/s slower than Phoenix with the old SDK. Correct me if I'm wrong?
I'm talking about GPUs from 6xxx and 5xxx series there is no question about what should be used with 7xxx cards.
I should have put a 5xxx and 6xxx series cards in the topic, my fault.


Maybe we should compare our results to see who can make the highest. I would say we should compare same GPUs with same frequencies.
I will give you my results:

Phoenix/phatk2 - VECTORS BFI_INT AGGRESSION=12 WORKSIZE=256 FASTLOOP=false
  5830 - 900/300MHz - 302Mh/s
  5850 - 900/300MHz - 376MH/s
  5870 - 900/300MHz - 418MH/s

If anyone can pull more MH/s on those frequencies please tell us how?
(I have chosen lower freq so everyone can test at this frequencies, this are my average results)

[crazyates]

I don't have any more 5xxx cards, sorry.

[Fiyasko]

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...Phoenix and cgminer both use the phatk kernel For my cards... <-Ftfy

To my knowledge CG miner is 20-30MH/s slower than Phoenix with the old SDK. Correct me if I'm wrong?
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15-20mh/s is lost from my experiance, that would be correct. But what about the 100% CPU bug? Also, From my experiance, incresing the memory clock will help hashrate (Phoenix only and i think i was using some Weird kernal, Like PhatkDia)
CGminer auto chooses what it believes is the best kernal for your card.

I have CG miner running on three different machines, One chose Diablo (my 7000)
It chose Phatk2 for my duo 6870's
And chose phatk for the 5830

[zvs]

You asking the wrong question?  You should be asking, which miner will make you most money with your rig(s).
I'd say cgminer because of its control features, remote API and statistics.
You can tweak it to perform best with YOUR particular hardware.

It isn't the wrong question, because I don't care how much electricity i use up and I don't care about statistics and tweaks because I can do them all with .bat files and some controllers.
I have been mining before the time of GUI interfaces and CG miner, so I had to figure my own ways of doing that.

...Phoenix and cgminer both use the phatk kernel...

To my knowledge CG miner is 20-30MH/s slower than Phoenix with the old SDK. Correct me if I'm wrong?
I'm talking about GPUs from 6xxx and 5xxx series there is no question about what should be used with 7xxx cards.
I should have put a 5xxx and 6xxx series cards in the topic, my fault.


Maybe we should compare our results to see who can make the highest. I would say we should compare same GPUs with same frequencies.
I will give you my results:

Phoenix/phatk2 - VECTORS BFI_INT AGGRESSION=12 WORKSIZE=256 FASTLOOP=false
  5830 - 900/300MHz - 302Mh/s
  5850 - 900/300MHz - 376MH/s
  5870 - 900/300MHz - 418MH/s

If anyone can pull more MH/s on those frequencies please tell us how?
(I have chosen lower freq so everyone can test at this frequencies, this are my average results)

that looks to be about what i'd get for 5830 & 5870, I use phoenix w/ aggression 9 (and set process to real-time priority)    but as i recall, something like 325 memory would be optimum for 900 and 256 worksize.   i've switched to 195 memory and 128 worksize, keeps cards cooler and only lose a few mhash

[coinrider]

Does this looks okay?

I'm new to this.
https://i.imgur.com/enMP8.jpg

[crazyates]

He's talking about GPU mining, not CPU mining. 100s or even 1000s of times faster.

[Fiyasko]

Does this looks okay?

I'm new to this.

Get an ati/amd GPU, Mining with a CPU is totally worthless