UK General Election 2015 [ Unmoderated ]

[Lethn]

Thanks UK for reminding me of why I want to leave this shithole guys, oh and wait to make a self-moderated thread, that pretty much ruins any semblance of a proper debate oh and lol yes we have some pretty nasty people here in regards to that anti-tory manifesto, you guys may think the Republicans are nuts in America by comparison the 'Conservatives' here are actually pretty moderate and it's Labour who are the psychopaths in our country.

Making a seperate unmoderated thread since one of my posts just got selectively deleted, gave the OP a chance but fuck it, enjoy a free and open discussion about the UK elections here

People who claim to want to have a discussion or debate do themselves no favours to their credibility by immediately using moderator powers when they feel like it.

[Submotion]

Thanks UK for reminding me of why I want to leave this shithole guys, oh and wait to make a self-moderated thread, that pretty much ruins any semblance of a proper debate oh and lol yes we have some pretty nasty people here in regards to that anti-tory manifesto, you guys may think the Republicans are nuts in America by comparison the 'Conservatives' here are actually pretty moderate and it's Labour who are the psychopaths in our country.

Is this the post that got deleted?

People who claim to want to have a discussion or debate do themselves no favours to their credibility by immediately using moderator powers when they feel like it.

Agreed. I don't think people should be able to self-mod threads especially not in this sub but that's why I try not to post in them. If people don't like others opinions or aren't willing to have an open discussion then I don't know why they're even here or bother trying to have a dialogue.

[protokol]

Thanks UK for reminding me of why I want to leave this shithole guys, oh and wait to make a self-moderated thread, that pretty much ruins any semblance of a proper debate oh and lol yes we have some pretty nasty people here in regards to that anti-tory manifesto, you guys may think the Republicans are nuts in America by comparison the 'Conservatives' here are actually pretty moderate and it's Labour who are the psychopaths in our country.

Making a seperate unmoderated thread since one of my posts just got selectively deleted, gave the OP a chance but fuck it, enjoy a free and open discussion about the UK elections here

People who claim to want to have a discussion or debate do themselves no favours to their credibility by immediately using moderator powers when they feel like it.

Who did you vote for? Are you happy that the Tories got in?

I went for Plaid Cymru, one reason is they have done some useful things in my area in the past (such as subsidising broadband internet for rural areas). I'm not a socialist (I veer more towards Minarchism/Anarchism), however I'd prefer to have a more Left-wing party in power than the Tories.

For one thing, the Left-wing parties have a much more sensible attitude about drugs and civil liberties.

[Lethn]

I protested and voted for Direct Democracy and Anarchism on my ballot paper People here should know by now I hate both extreme sides equally, mainly because they have this attitude of if anybody disagrees with us then they're the enemy.

[protokol]

I protested and voted for Direct Democracy and Anarchism on my ballot paper People here should know by now I hate both extreme sides equally, mainly because they have this attitude of if anybody disagrees with us then they're the enemy.

Fair enough, although I don't think it's a particularly effective form of protest, I admire the sentiment!

I also don't like the extreme sides, I take it you mean far-left/far-right politics. Really, I just think that the current gov is too authoritarian, and imposes too much legislation to please the masses. I would definitely vote for a party with more "an-cap" ideals - greater individual rights and less regulation in the market. It's a shame that the parties in favour of capitalism (like the Tories/UKIP), also impose Draconian laws on their citizens.

[Lethn]

lol of course they'll likely ignore it, but they can't claim I don't have an opinion now because I don't vote for their pre-selected candidates.

Yes, that's pretty much the same situation for me with these two sides, both of them are way too Authoritarian I'm seriously planning to leave this stupid country as soon as I can.

[alani123]

I noticed that many people complained about how 'unfair' the MP election system was. Not surprisingly, those were UKIP supporters. While I agree that their party wasn't favored by the system you can't really call it unfair. If they had more acceptance they would have been favored by the system like Scottish National Party did.

[saddampbuh]

I noticed that many people complained about how 'unfair' the MP election system was. Not surprisingly, those were UKIP supporters. While I agree that their party wasn't favored by the system you can't really call it unfair. If they had more acceptance they would have been favored by the system like Scottish National Party did.

nothing to do with ukip the liberals and greens have been calling for pr for years, no party should be favoured by the system, amount of seats ought to reflect the amount of votes cast and that's that

[RitzBitzz]

I noticed that many people complained about how 'unfair' the MP election system was. Not surprisingly, those were UKIP supporters. While I agree that their party wasn't favored by the system you can't really call it unfair. If they had more acceptance they would have been favored by the system like Scottish National Party did.

Getting 13 percent of the vote and getting 1 MP yeah "democracy".

[Lethn]

I noticed that many people complained about how 'unfair' the MP election system was. Not surprisingly, those were UKIP supporters. While I agree that their party wasn't favored by the system you can't really call it unfair. If they had more acceptance they would have been favored by the system like Scottish National Party did.

Getting 13 percent of the vote and getting 1 MP yeah "democracy".

Not only that if you look at the actual coverage of minor parties it's extremely skewed against them, there was a 20 year old woman in the SNP who beat a sitting labour minister and she was blatantly snubbed by the BBC and that kind of shit goes on constantly, once the media builds a narrative it sticks with it even when they're completely wrong, we had police commissioner elections awhile back too and they were a fucking joke because of the cost associated with even getting registered.

The fact that people like you just claim "Oh it's just UKIP" is exactly the problem with British politics in particular, the sheer arrogance from mainstream supporters is astounding that it's any wonder that they're so hated by everybody, western democracy doesn't decide things through a fair voting system it decides things through voting blocs and those just happen to be the organised labour unions and big business owners. Meanwhile the rest of us are trapped in between them being told if we don't vote for them the other side will get in.

I think also when you have people with titles like "Baroness" and "Lord" running for office it kind of gives it a way a bit that we're still living in a fucking aristocracy, if we had Direct Democracy then at least the majority of people could overturn shitty laws created by these voting blocs even if they did manage to get their favourite parties elected.

[bryant.coleman]

Getting 13 percent of the vote and getting 1 MP yeah "democracy".

I am not a big supporter of the proportional representation system. It tends create coalition governments, which are unstable in most cases. However, a balance can be formed between the systems. For example, 20% of the representatives can be elected through a proportional representation system, while the remaining 80% can be elected through constituencies.