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May 11, 2015, 05:53:19 PM |
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I just testing martingale gambling method.
This is my experience: After 2 days of gambling I collected 1500 Dogecoins After 3 days of gambling I lost about 2000 Dogecoins
So I lost because, I have 20x negative times in row. I expected about 18x or 19x.
Anyway, can anybody tell me what is max negative times in row? Anybody have same expirience?
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May 11, 2015, 06:00:35 PM |
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There is no "max negative" if you are playing games of chance. You could loss for days without winning. Everyone has these streaks. It is part of the game unfortunately.
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May 11, 2015, 06:03:05 PM |
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I just testing martingale gambling method.
This is my experience: After 2 days of gambling I collected 1500 Dogecoins After 3 days of gambling I lost about 2000 Dogecoins
So I lost because, I have 20x negative times in row. I expected about 18x or 19x.
Anyway, can anybody tell me what is max negative times in row? Anybody have same expirience?
I hat 22x in a row in the past and IIRC just-dice had a 32 losing streak for martingale. As PenguinFire said there is no maximum. Its very unlikely to lose 22, 32, 42 or 662 times in a row, but eventually it will happen.
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May 11, 2015, 06:27:04 PM |
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There is no "max negative" if you are playing games of chance. You could loss for days without winning. Everyone has these streaks. It is part of the game unfortunately.
This. You need to be aware of the house edge. Martingale can work if you have a ridiculous bank roll and in the short term but keep playing and you'll lose eventually.
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May 11, 2015, 06:34:05 PM |
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I just testing martingale gambling method.
This is my experience: After 2 days of gambling I collected 1500 Dogecoins After 3 days of gambling I lost about 2000 Dogecoins
So I lost because, I have 20x negative times in row. I expected about 18x or 19x.
Anyway, can anybody tell me what is max negative times in row? Anybody have same expirience?
What bank roll did you start with? 1500 or something less? Martingale is dangerous because it can easily suck you in. Once you start you'll feel like you can't lose because you always cover you last bets... that is until you hit that losing streak and you lose your bankroll in seconds.
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May 11, 2015, 07:02:13 PM |
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30 loses in a row is 1 in a billion chance, there are reports of a little bit more but not much more since no one would have enough bankroll to sustain more than 40 loses in a row even if you start with 1 satoshi bet
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May 11, 2015, 07:24:52 PM |
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30 loses in a row is 1 in a billion chance, there are reports of a little bit more but not much more since no one would have enough bankroll to sustain more than 40 loses in a row even if you start with 1 satoshi bet
So how safe would you be by using enough funds to ensure you can do 30 rolls or a little over? I hit a little over 20 losses in a row a few times back when I first got into bitcoin and was using the dice sites. I won quite a bit using martin gale but then kept going and lost so then I quit haha.
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May 11, 2015, 08:38:36 PM |
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There are a lot of threads on this topic if you look around in the gambling section. In the end, the deal is that the more you play, the more likely you are to approach the long-term expected value for the game you're playing. Because of house-edge, this is almost always negative. Gambling is fun but you shouldn't hope to defeat the dice-house by rolling thousands of times.
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May 11, 2015, 09:22:23 PM |
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When gambling on these site's realize they are operating chances are in countries that will host gambling websites, not US and some others that they would have to comply to laws (and probley could not even get open legally).
They are free to set their OWN odds. So .... no regulation and they set their own odds. They might be turning it up and down you don't know.
Anyways there is no max you could lose, you could lose it all. And the house always wins, especially when they program their own rules.
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May 11, 2015, 10:12:26 PM |
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I just testing martingale gambling method.
This is my experience: After 2 days of gambling I collected 1500 Dogecoins After 3 days of gambling I lost about 2000 Dogecoins
So I lost because, I have 20x negative times in row. I expected about 18x or 19x.
Anyway, can anybody tell me what is max negative times in row? Anybody have same expirience?
There should be no max negative, just as there are no max positives. Gambling is gambling, you need to expect to lose. Never gamble what you can't afford to lose.
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May 12, 2015, 12:10:26 AM |
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Read up on gambler's ruin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_ruinHouse edge and the fact that you have a limited bankroll will never make you a winning player in the long run, even if you're using Martingale bets.
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May 12, 2015, 04:19:13 AM |
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I just testing martingale gambling method.
This is my experience: After 2 days of gambling I collected 1500 Dogecoins After 3 days of gambling I lost about 2000 Dogecoins
So I lost because, I have 20x negative times in row. I expected about 18x or 19x.
Anyway, can anybody tell me what is max negative times in row? Anybody have same expirience?
Martingale has proven to never work in the long term.
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May 12, 2015, 05:54:19 AM |
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30 loses in a row is 1 in a billion chance, there are reports of a little bit more but not much more since no one would have enough bankroll to sustain more than 40 loses in a row even if you start with 1 satoshi bet
So how safe would you be by using enough funds to ensure you can do 30 rolls or a little over? I hit a little over 20 losses in a row a few times back when I first got into bitcoin and was using the dice sites. I won quite a bit using martin gale but then kept going and lost so then I quit haha. You need about 10 BTC to be able to survive the 30th consecutive loss if you started with 1 satoshi bet. The problem with starting with such a low bettig amount is that you need to bet a lot and i mean A LOT, for example in order to have a profit of 0.01 btc you would need 2 million bets wich is insane
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May 12, 2015, 05:55:27 AM |
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I just testing martingale gambling method.
This is my experience: After 2 days of gambling I collected 1500 Dogecoins After 3 days of gambling I lost about 2000 Dogecoins
So I lost because, I have 20x negative times in row. I expected about 18x or 19x.
Anyway, can anybody tell me what is max negative times in row? Anybody have same expirience?
Martingale has proven to never work in the long term. No shit, no strategy works in the long term thats why casinos win, in the short term anything can work as long as you have luck, you could very well start betting and make 30 loses in a row in your first 30 bets
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May 12, 2015, 06:54:09 AM |
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One really shouldn't gamble, just ever. You're playing against 'invoke GetTickCount' from Windows (random number generator), and it's really not the way to go. Best of luck to you.
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May 15, 2015, 01:01:49 AM |
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I have myself experienced 26 reds in a row while martingaling on 2x. Although it seems impossible that that would happen but it does. Every roll is independent from each other and has the same probability, so you can have 30 reds in a row but that does not mean that 31st roll will be green, it may very well be red again.
That is why it is called gambling and it does depends on your luck. So just play with only the money you can afford to lose and never chase losses.
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May 15, 2015, 01:23:54 AM |
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I have myself experienced 26 reds in a row while martingaling on 2x. Although it seems impossible that that would happen but it does. Every roll is independent from each other and has the same probability, so you can have 30 reds in a row but that does not mean that 31st roll will be green, it may very well be red again.
That is why it is called gambling and it does depends on your luck. So just play with only the money you can afford to lose and never chase losses.
It's because in normal language we often conflate "impossible" with extremely improbable. Now, with computers and such that do so many operations per second, we can even find ourselves in these strangely improbable positions. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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May 15, 2015, 01:37:18 AM |
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I have myself experienced 26 reds in a row while martingaling on 2x. Although it seems impossible that that would happen but it does. Every roll is independent from each other and has the same probability, so you can have 30 reds in a row but that does not mean that 31st roll will be green, it may very well be red again.
That is why it is called gambling and it does depends on your luck. So just play with only the money you can afford to lose and never chase losses.
you can really cover upto 26 lose in a row? that would be a lot even you start with 1 satoshi base bet you would reach yoy .65btc
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May 15, 2015, 02:14:36 AM |
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I have myself experienced 26 reds in a row while martingaling on 2x. Although it seems impossible that that would happen but it does. Every roll is independent from each other and has the same probability, so you can have 30 reds in a row but that does not mean that 31st roll will be green, it may very well be red again.
That is why it is called gambling and it does depends on your luck. So just play with only the money you can afford to lose and never chase losses.
you can really cover upto 26 lose in a row? that would be a lot even you start with 1 satoshi base bet you would reach yoy .65btc Doge, base bet 0.001 I am not foolish enough to try martingale with BTC.
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May 15, 2015, 04:01:23 AM |
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Everyone who has a bad gambling problem has to hit bottom before they can begin recovery. Everyone's bottom is different. When it hits, it is unforgettable
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