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May 11, 2015, 11:21:07 PM
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I don't know where to start, but this is a reality. If you can't go on for hours a day for months on this subject, then don't say it's
not possible. So why have most of you chosen to exclude this type of study from your minds?

I will not be describing in much detail what to do because this isn't my intended discussion yet, but I very much know how to
far surpass the 100 mark without illness or looking older than 40. However I will heed to the call of anyone that can assist myself
in a more-full realization of the suggestions I make about aging. It's too bad I'm not cash loaded. There are so many people I need to
lend support. Some things are freely available to start practicing now, while other things may have a price tag involved. But nothing
farfetched or unrealistic for even many poor people.

So what goes on in you all's minds concerning this concept? Also to be clear, I do not support the current methods of artificial life extension.
This is not needed to live very long and nearly halt age related conditions for the average man. I want to inspire some of you to keep your eyes open for when you realize that you can choose to live a far more naturally enriched life.


Who wants to call bs and who wants to express their knowledge or ask questions?
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May 12, 2015, 12:04:21 AM
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why would anyone want to

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May 12, 2015, 12:17:16 AM
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why would anyone want to

Because they can. This topic mentions nothing about the advocation of living very long while growing uglier
and more decrepit every year. Who would want such a burden?

I'm talking about truly living. No disease, no wrinkly curses, no life impairing mental decline, hence no
thoughts of awaiting death as soon as possible. If you looked and felt under 40, would you want to die?

You of all people should be much more keenly aware of reality, considering the nature of your signature text reading:
"The Jew is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a Jew and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”.

It's ok, this is a free and open discussion. Your mindfulness of the subject of Jewry as an example can even benefit you if
you chose to outlive those who you deem to have questionable ethics. Living longer and healthy will allow for increased
situational awareness.
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May 12, 2015, 12:25:19 AM
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is that information true? where did you get that?
it would be amazing if everyone could live longer
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May 12, 2015, 12:31:03 AM
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We could already be living longer if it was advantaged the whole but, the whole death and taxes equilibrium would get messed with.  People get to retirement and stop working typcially. Really all this means is they take from taxes in most countries instead of contributing to taxes anymore.  The longer we age the longer the problem.  Then you would have issues with food/water.
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May 12, 2015, 12:32:48 AM
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is that information true? where did you get that?
it would be amazing if everyone could live longer


Step back. Remember were you are: Bitcoin Forum > Other > Politics & Society > "Most people could live past 130 if they choose to, while aging very little _ No I won't tell you how..."

Let's cut to the chase. Where can I send my bitcoins to know the answer?

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May 12, 2015, 12:34:34 AM
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I'm 187. I made the necessary changes to extend my life indefinitely in 1902. Can't remember what it consisted of now. Quel dommage. See you in 2348.
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May 12, 2015, 01:09:11 AM
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Living is all about quality of life if the quality isn't good then why bother living?
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May 12, 2015, 04:34:43 AM
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Care to explain how to achieve this?
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May 12, 2015, 09:42:35 AM
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is that information true? where did you get that?
it would be amazing if everyone could live longer


Its very true. The information has been around for thousands of years. Thankfully the internet allows this information
to be shared in many forms. Piecing it together is the hard part. For example, look at some animal species. Some whales
can live for 275 years and barely age, nor have disease. When they die, it is peaceful and with little definitive explanation
of why death occurred when an autopsy is performed. One thing that is very consistent among all long living animals is
the integrity of their livers. Livers are very important in how you age and how long you live. But typical medical info
suggests that livers in humans are supposed to become dysfunctional at 90 years. This is not true. With all the latest
medical discoveries being published daily and overlooked by the masses, can you see why I say that living long and not
aging much is primarily a choice? Ignorance affects us all, even myself.

I will continue on more after I get some rest. I just typed a ton of great info to multiple people and the stupid page refreshed.
I'm pissed lol. No worries. I'll try and respond here for months at least.
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May 12, 2015, 10:10:59 AM
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I'm supposing it's relating to this guy: Aubrey de Grey (wikipedia). He's a professor at Oxford I think who has been researching regenerative medicine: cleansing cells + healthy living, so as to extend life. Is this it OP?

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May 12, 2015, 10:51:26 AM
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OP sounds good indeed almost too good to be true Smiley. Well, let's talk about business. So, where's your site and how we can order the necessary supplements and the book about the eternal life today only for $46 instead of $176 Smiley?

BTW a free tip form me: alcohol and smoking are both preservatives... Wink
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I'm supposing it's relating to this guy: Aubrey de Grey (wikipedia). He's a professor at Oxford I think who has been researching regenerative medicine: cleansing cells + healthy living, so as to extend life. Is this it OP?

Healthy living only does so much to extend your life, nowhere near the "past 130 if they choose to", and you will age accordingly(So you will be "old and wrinkly" at age 90 for example no matter how healthy you are).

The only things I know of that can actually potentially reverse or temporary stop aging is Stem cells, nanomedicine(Such as enzymes that somehow "replenish" cells, or discovering how to apply Henrietta Lack's "immortal cells" to stop aging in everyone else(As telomores are thought to be the thing that as they shrink do to every cell splitting, cause aging of the cell and eventual death of said cell, that's ceased however in the case of "immortal cells").

Then there's robotics and the prospect of "transforming" the human body with robotic machinery.

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May 12, 2015, 03:38:39 PM
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Living is all about quality of life if the quality isn't good then why bother living?

That's exactly the point. A few years ago, I happened to listen to someone who advocated healthy living. He argued that if we want longevity, then we should avoid tobacco, alcohol, fast food, salt, sugar, cheese, french fries, all types of meat, fish, butter, coca cola... and some 8,745 other food items. I said "No, thanks. I prefer to live up to 80 years of age, eating and drinking whatever I want rather than living up to 100 years and obeying your orders."
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May 13, 2015, 12:48:15 AM
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is that information true? where did you get that?
it would be amazing if everyone could live longer


Step back. Remember were you are: Bitcoin Forum > Other > Politics & Society > "Most people could live past 130 if they choose to, while aging very little _ No I won't tell you how..."

Let's cut to the chase. Where can I send my bitcoins to know the answer?

 Cool



Not so fast. I would love to oblige you, but I rather you learn of my honesty and insight first.
I am the real deal, but I can be anyone and full of crap so stay tuned. There are just too many
human expressions that have been belittled through fraudulent top-down approved cultural manipulations.
This is too good of a topic for me to lie or troll.

I'm supposing it's relating to this guy: Aubrey de Grey (wikipedia). He's a professor at Oxford I think who has been researching regenerative medicine: cleansing cells + healthy living, so as to extend life. Is this it OP?

Healthy living only does so much to extend your life, nowhere near the "past 130 if they choose to", and you will age accordingly(So you will be "old and wrinkly" at age 90 for example no matter how healthy you are).

The only things I know of that can actually potentially reverse or temporary stop aging is Stem cells, nanomedicine(Such as enzymes that somehow "replenish" cells, or discovering how to apply Henrietta Lack's "immortal cells" to stop aging in everyone else(As telomores are thought to be the thing that as they shrink do to every cell splitting, cause aging of the cell and eventual death of said cell, that's ceased however in the case of "immortal cells").

Then there's robotics and the prospect of "transforming" the human body with robotic machinery.

Your opinion is based on mainstream science and culture. Mostly for money grabbing and TV fluff leading people with
false hope and steering them into the hands of the Administrative State ultimately. I am well aware of the
concepts you have mentioned, but this is only part of the awareness required for what I will elaborate on in
this thread.

By the way, how many times have you been in resthomes to study the elderly? I have seen many resthome
patients who are 80 - 90 with baby smooth skin and less wrinkles than a 50 year old. These people unfortunately
have been captured by the state and have little opportunity to be aware of their own biology. Now imagine the worst
case scenario of my interest, where if these same people were well nourished via modern nutritional understandings
for most of their life on top of their genetic predisposition to look fairly healthy at such ages. There are great changes
available for people now! But you must be willing to deprogram yourself and expand your conscious awareness. Its
a growing and learning experience.

Living is all about quality of life if the quality isn't good then why bother living?

That's exactly the point. A few years ago, I happened to listen to someone who advocated healthy living. He argued that if we want longevity, then we should avoid tobacco, alcohol, fast food, salt, sugar, cheese, french fries, all types of meat, fish, butter, coca cola... and some 8,745 other food items. I said "No, thanks. I prefer to live up to 80 years of age, eating and drinking whatever I want rather than living up to 100 years and obeying your orders."

So you take the views of one individual and settle your mind? How far is this thought process from racism? Normalcy
bias much? But fear not good sir. You see, I don't need to talk like the fellow you mentioned. Indeed you can still
enjoy all kinds of unhealthy things and still outlive others in better health very much. The issue is balance. So for example,
if you enjoy highly acidic foods which are lethal for the body over time, you could easily mitigate this issue via proper
alkalization techniques. Alkalization is another topic that has much misinterpretations surrounding it. You can't just
brute-force your body into an alkaline state and expect to be safe for long. This can be dangerous. You have to instead provide the ingredients that body is programmed to use so that it can produce the proper cellular environment on it's own.

There is no need for you to approach this concept with the spirit of rebellion, as implied by you "obeying your orders". I think along higher thought processes than this regarding this topic and you have nothing to loose by
keeping your eyes open a little longer on some people and concepts so that you can notice more things.
I can make an opinion about you that you have allot of positive energy pent up, but would like more ways
to use it. Well here you go. I will do my best to encourage you.


Most people can't afford a healthy life. You have to go to work every day into a stressful environment that can get more stressful when your car doesn't start or someone cuts you off, boss is in a bad mood, weather is bad and so on. You have no time to go for a walk because you have to get kids from school, go to the store to buy food and do 100 other things.

I'm sure we'd live much longer if we had robots to do all the work and could just go to the gym every day and then lie down in the garden drinking milkshakes and watching birds.

This is not entirely true. There are many poor people who outlive the ultra rich and in great health.
For example, by hydrating properly and avoiding food damaging techniques such as high heat and
microwave ovens, you would end up saving money by actually absorbing more nutrient content and alleviating
the body of the toxic conditions produced by bad cooking practices. This choice does not necessarily require
an unrealistic amount of money. Proper nutrition results in less stress being experienced. The brain is a very
sensitive organ and uses the most amount of energy in the body. It only makes sense but to focus on keeping
it nourished, as it controls all major organs in the body via bidirectional nerve communication and chemical
processes.

The brain needs lots of healthy fats in order to properly expend and replenish it's energy. This has allot to
do with the perception of stress. There is much more I could say on this but for now, try working on expanding
the ways in which you perceive information. There is no need to think with a limited thought process just because
you feel settled and confident at yourself. New studies come out daily in the world of biology, so really even what
I say has the potential to be very relative. As more data comes out, I assimilate it into my thoughts. If there wasn't
relevant data available, or the ability of myself to perceive data as relevant, then this thread wouldn't even exist.

Your greatest excitements are always yet to be realized. So don't miss out on potential new ones as they become
available to your faculties and soon to be faculties. Take your time to deeply study nutrition for years. If you have
kids for example, take a guess at what has a higher potential to exist for them and you when their organs are developed
in the most pristine conditions. This is another subject I could go into. Raising super geniuses with consistency.

I'm supposing it's relating to this guy: Aubrey de Grey (wikipedia). He's a professor at Oxford I think who has been researching regenerative medicine: cleansing cells + healthy living, so as to extend life. Is this it OP?

He is a great researcher to learn from. However, don't settle your views on just one person. I know very much
about the type of research he is involved in, but I know other areas of research that can be compounded for
even greater realizations of just how long we can live and age less.

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May 13, 2015, 12:58:51 AM
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Living is all about quality of life if the quality isn't good then why bother living?

That's exactly the point. A few years ago, I happened to listen to someone who advocated healthy living. He argued that if we want longevity, then we should avoid tobacco, alcohol, fast food, salt, sugar, cheese, french fries, all types of meat, fish, butter, coca cola... and some 8,745 other food items. I said "No, thanks. I prefer to live up to 80 years of age, eating and drinking whatever I want rather than living up to 100 years and obeying your orders."

Yes, besides I don't think that guy knew what he was talking about because everybody needs some salt and meats to survive. Maybe he was talking about certain types of meat but any meat that's fresh is generally good for you in moderation.
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May 13, 2015, 01:17:50 AM
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Living is all about quality of life if the quality isn't good then why bother living?

That's exactly the point. A few years ago, I happened to listen to someone who advocated healthy living. He argued that if we want longevity, then we should avoid tobacco, alcohol, fast food, salt, sugar, cheese, french fries, all types of meat, fish, butter, coca cola... and some 8,745 other food items. I said "No, thanks. I prefer to live up to 80 years of age, eating and drinking whatever I want rather than living up to 100 years and obeying your orders."

Yes, besides I don't think that guy knew what he was talking about because everybody needs some salt and meats to survive. Maybe he was talking about certain types of meat but any meat that's fresh is generally good for you in moderation.

Look into natural salt vs processed salt. Be amazed. Try some Himalayan pink salt. Processed salts are very toxic over time.

Don't find it too interesting? Go get yourself some spring or RO water and add a pinch of pink salt. Enough so that
it's not salty, but rather smooth with a mild hint of close to being salty. Have some before you go to bed and when you
wake up. It is extra important to flush your body with structured water each morning. Pink salt and other trace mineral
rich substances are very economical ways to maintain and improve health. You'll feel it in 1 - 3 days of doing this.
But it has to be done on an empty stomach. At least 2 hours after a meal, preferably 4 hours. If taking when you
awaken, wait an hour before you eat.
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May 13, 2015, 01:25:54 AM
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is that information true? where did you get that?
it would be amazing if everyone could live longer


Step back. Remember were you are: Bitcoin Forum > Other > Politics & Society > "Most people could live past 130 if they choose to, while aging very little _ No I won't tell you how..."

Let's cut to the chase. Where can I send my bitcoins to know the answer?

 Cool



Not so fast. I would love to oblige you, but I rather you learn of my honesty and insight first.
I am the real deal, but I can be anyone and full of crap so stay tuned. There are just too many
human expressions that have been belittled through fraudulent top-down approved cultural manipulations.
This is too good of a topic for me to lie or troll.

I'm supposing it's relating to this guy: Aubrey de Grey (wikipedia). He's a professor at Oxford I think who has been researching regenerative medicine: cleansing cells + healthy living, so as to extend life. Is this it OP?

Healthy living only does so much to extend your life, nowhere near the "past 130 if they choose to", and you will age accordingly(So you will be "old and wrinkly" at age 90 for example no matter how healthy you are).

The only things I know of that can actually potentially reverse or temporary stop aging is Stem cells, nanomedicine(Such as enzymes that somehow "replenish" cells, or discovering how to apply Henrietta Lack's "immortal cells" to stop aging in everyone else(As telomores are thought to be the thing that as they shrink do to every cell splitting, cause aging of the cell and eventual death of said cell, that's ceased however in the case of "immortal cells").

Then there's robotics and the prospect of "transforming" the human body with robotic machinery.

Your opinion is based on mainstream science and culture. Mostly for money grabbing and TV fluff leading people with
false hope and steering them into the hands of the Administrative State ultimately. I am well aware of the
concepts you have mentioned, but this is only part of the awareness required for what I will elaborate on in
this thread.

By the way, how many times have you been in resthomes to study the elderly? I have seen many resthome
patients who are 80 - 90 with baby smooth skin and less wrinkles than a 50 year old. These people unfortunately
have been captured by the state and have little opportunity to be aware of their own biology. Now imagine the worst
case scenario of my interest, where if these same people were well nourished via modern nutritional understandings
for most of their life on top of their genetic predisposition to look fairly healthy at such ages. There are great changes
available for people now! But you must be willing to deprogram yourself and expand your conscious awareness. Its
a growing and learning experience.





Unfortunately you're entirely wrong. The older you age the less collagen your skin has so your statament of " I have seen many resthome patients who are 60-90 with baby smooth skin" is hopelessly false. It's been proven time and time again that dietary habits and nutrition does nothing for the appearance of your skin. The biggest factors of skin aging is The Sun, UVA/UVB Rays, and Nicotine(Smoking). The Sun destroys the collagen that keeps your skin plump and smooth in appearance, and Nicotine restricts the blood vessels in your skin leading it to become more prone to dryness and subsequent wrinkles.

Healthy Living only does so much to improve your lifespan, by a few measly years. Of course that is important as it's better to be generally healthy and fit that unhealthy and restricted(physically). But, when it comes to actually improving your lifespan itself, it doesn't do much and certainly not 130+ years and above like the OP has mentioned. I really hope you guys don't believe in that nonsense that has been refuted time and time again, but it more seems like the OP is one of those snakeoil salesmen trying to sell the next "life extension product" to gain a few bucks(Would also explain why he refuses to elaborate on any of his "points").


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May 13, 2015, 01:35:13 AM
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I don't know where to start, but this is a reality. If you can't go on for hours a day for months on this subject, then don't say it's
not possible. So why have most of you chosen to exclude this type of study from your minds?

I will not be describing in much detail what to do because this isn't my intended discussion yet, but I very much know how to
far surpass the 100 mark without illness or looking older than 40. However I will heed to the call of anyone that can assist myself
in a more-full realization of the suggestions I make about aging. It's too bad I'm not cash loaded. There are so many people I need to
lend support. Some things are freely available to start practicing now, while other things may have a price tag involved. But nothing
farfetched or unrealistic for even many poor people.

So what goes on in you all's minds concerning this concept? Also to be clear, I do not support the current methods of artificial life extension.
This is not needed to live very long and nearly halt age related conditions for the average man. I want to inspire some of you to keep your eyes open for when you realize that you can choose to live a far more naturally enriched life.


Who wants to call bs and who wants to express their knowledge or ask questions?

This horseshit smells similar to the Secret.

Do you have any kind of evidence to support your claims?

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May 13, 2015, 06:30:42 AM
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is that information true? where did you get that?
it would be amazing if everyone could live longer


Step back. Remember were you are: Bitcoin Forum > Other > Politics & Society > "Most people could live past 130 if they choose to, while aging very little _ No I won't tell you how..."

Let's cut to the chase. Where can I send my bitcoins to know the answer?

 Cool



Not so fast. I would love to oblige you, but I rather you learn of my honesty and insight first.
I am the real deal, but I can be anyone and full of crap so stay tuned. There are just too many
human expressions that have been belittled through fraudulent top-down approved cultural manipulations.
This is too good of a topic for me to lie or troll.

I'm supposing it's relating to this guy: Aubrey de Grey (wikipedia). He's a professor at Oxford I think who has been researching regenerative medicine: cleansing cells + healthy living, so as to extend life. Is this it OP?

Healthy living only does so much to extend your life, nowhere near the "past 130 if they choose to", and you will age accordingly(So you will be "old and wrinkly" at age 90 for example no matter how healthy you are).

The only things I know of that can actually potentially reverse or temporary stop aging is Stem cells, nanomedicine(Such as enzymes that somehow "replenish" cells, or discovering how to apply Henrietta Lack's "immortal cells" to stop aging in everyone else(As telomores are thought to be the thing that as they shrink do to every cell splitting, cause aging of the cell and eventual death of said cell, that's ceased however in the case of "immortal cells").

Then there's robotics and the prospect of "transforming" the human body with robotic machinery.

Your opinion is based on mainstream science and culture. Mostly for money grabbing and TV fluff leading people with
false hope and steering them into the hands of the Administrative State ultimately. I am well aware of the
concepts you have mentioned, but this is only part of the awareness required for what I will elaborate on in
this thread.

By the way, how many times have you been in resthomes to study the elderly? I have seen many resthome
patients who are 80 - 90 with baby smooth skin and less wrinkles than a 50 year old. These people unfortunately
have been captured by the state and have little opportunity to be aware of their own biology. Now imagine the worst
case scenario of my interest, where if these same people were well nourished via modern nutritional understandings
for most of their life on top of their genetic predisposition to look fairly healthy at such ages. There are great changes
available for people now! But you must be willing to deprogram yourself and expand your conscious awareness. Its
a growing and learning experience.





Unfortunately you're entirely wrong. The older you age the less collagen your skin has so your statament of " I have seen many resthome patients who are 60-90 with baby smooth skin" is hopelessly false. It's been proven time and time again that dietary habits and nutrition does nothing for the appearance of your skin. The biggest factors of skin aging is The Sun, UVA/UVB Rays, and Nicotine(Smoking). The Sun destroys the collagen that keeps your skin plump and smooth in appearance, and Nicotine restricts the blood vessels in your skin leading it to become more prone to dryness and subsequent wrinkles.

Healthy Living only does so much to improve your lifespan, by a few measly years. Of course that is important as it's better to be generally healthy and fit that unhealthy and restricted(physically). But, when it comes to actually improving your lifespan itself, it doesn't do much and certainly not 130+ years and above like the OP has mentioned. I really hope you guys don't believe in that nonsense that has been refuted time and time again, but it more seems like the OP is one of those snakeoil salesmen trying to sell the next "life extension product" to gain a few bucks(Would also explain why he refuses to elaborate on any of his "points").



No dude. You are. Like I said, you are basing your opinions on mainstream fluff cultural opinions on these matters.
You must be reading from Cosmopolitan magazine haha. If you aren't, then you are parroting the same BS of so called "settled science".
I've helped some aging women get rid of their wrinkles by increasing collagen production and providing dietary/supplementary options
to increase the amount of UVA/UVB blockage in the skin(skin actually needs UV exposure, but this process of exposure is tightly regulated
and prone to reduced function with age and nutritional deficiencies of course). Ever heard of carotinoids? I guess not. This is only one of many things
that greatly reduce solar emissions from damaging DNA. The sun is NOT the biggest factor in skin aging. That is a bunch of propaganda
for those who are unaware of how to properly nourish their body. Common sense would tell you if you've looked at sun exposure,
age, ethnicity and diet, that collagen level decline with age is not consistent across the populations of the world. As well as other
sun exposure protecting factors. It is a fact that you can freely look up, that metal based sun block increases risk of cancer. Well duh!
Many of these sun screen creams and sprays act like solar panels to an extent, and energetically overload the cells causing
reduced function and proneness to malignancy. Learn about electronegativity and photon interaction. Mind blow.

There is a lovely saying "you are a racist if you haven't educated yourself as to why you're not". Now I'm not
calling you a racist obviously, but to be so ignorant of aging traits across various ethnic groups for example is
somewhat racially insensitive. You certainly had a hard settled opinion about at least one ethnic group in
mind when you said what you did. Or are you the silly type who bought into the phrase created by a
wonderful gentleman of Jewish ancestry who said "race is only skin deep". Who later recanted this statement
and based on genetic facts, made a statement about how Jews are an ethnically distinct people. As are all major
and minor ethnic groups. And no, I do not agree with other views this said gentleman has if you care to find him.
I just loved how a phrase that so many use and agree with came from a known racist.
 

While I don't get into race baiting and all that stuff, it is part of my understanding because if I am to share
true knowledge on what I know, I must be sensitive to the biological differences of others. Race is not skin deep.
And nutrition absorption and assimilation are not the same for all peoples. So I must be cognizant of this fact
in order for all people to benefit from what I wish to share.

I am not the next guy trying to sell snake oil or the next life extension product. I will warn people about this later on
as this thread matures. I know full well of what is coming in the future for products relating to what I talk about
and I know how to filter out the fakes and frauds, or simply inefficient things. I could do without you trying to distort the
concepts I am attempting to elaborate on for the benefit of others. You are always welcome to continue with your
comments. I appreciate you as much as everyone else.
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