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September 04, 2012, 10:28:26 PM
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Wiki Weapon Project Continues to Raise Money for 3D Printed Guns via PayPal and Bitcoin

Jessica Roy
2012-09-04

http://betabeat.com/2012/09/wiki-weapon-project-3d-printed-gun-defense-distributed-cody-wilson-09042012/

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Despite getting kicked off of Indiegogo’s platform, the Wiki Weapon project has been collecting money through its donate page. Mr. Wilson said that 90 percent of donations collected to date have come via PayPal or Bitcoin.
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September 04, 2012, 10:44:19 PM
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In 2010, 14,718 individuals are murdered that year, in a population of 300 millions.

The mass shooting in the Aurora movie theater claims 12 lives, the shik temple mass shooting claims 7 lives for the year 2012, ending with a total of 19 lives.

Assuming a conservative 13,000 murders out of a population of 300 millions, that mean 0.0043 percent ~ were murdered. Of that 13000, the mass shootings claim .146915384615 percent.

In 2009 alone, 599,413 people die of heart diseases. Another 567,628 individuals die of cancer. Heart disease and cancers are the biggest killers in the US.

Gun control and gun violence? Maybe you should worry about whether you exercise more and contribute to anti-aging research rather than worry about some kook printing some guns. He can buy guns on the black market and goes on a shooting spree if he want, but that's totally unlikely. Mostly, he's just a harmless kook.

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September 04, 2012, 11:17:17 PM
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In 2010, 14,718 individuals are murdered that year, in a population of 300 millions.

The mass shooting in the Aurora movie theater claims 12 lives, the shik temple mass shooting claims 7 lives for the year 2012, ending with a total of 19 lives.

Assuming a conservative 13,000 murders out of a population of 300 millions, that mean 0.0043 percent ~ were murdered. Of that 13000, the mass shootings claim .146915384615 percent.

In 2009 alone, 599,413 people die of heart diseases. Another 567,628 individuals die of cancer. Heart disease and cancers are the biggest killers in the US.

Gun control and gun violence? Maybe you should worry about whether you exercise more and contribute to anti-aging research rather than worry about some kook printing some guns. He can buy guns on the black market and goes on a shooting spree if he want, but that's totally unlikely. Mostly, he's just a harmless kook.

I'd also like a statistic of how many people are murdered by thugs in blue costumes i.e. police. That one is always conveniently missing.

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September 05, 2012, 01:23:41 AM
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I'd also like a statistic of how many people are murdered by thugs in blue costumes i.e. police. That one is always conveniently missing.

I believe all murders are generally included in the statistics, especially concerning the death of everybody. Regardless of your hatred for policemen, your probability of murder is very low compared to your likelihood of dying of heart disease or cancer.

If you want to reduce the rate of unjust murder by policemen, you could start wearing a sousveillance unit and follow the cops wherever you go. That is probably effective, but I am not sure that it is truly effective or the most efficient. If you're looking for efficient, you want the cops to wear a sousveillance system on their job.

Anyway, if you want to reduce your chance of dying, the best place to start is your heart. Research what is necessary to improve your heart's conditions and ways to achieve it. The doctor's advice of eating less and exercise more is the most useless advice ever, no matter how true it is. The problem is not knowledge of what will make you healthy, but in figuring out how to make it a habit so you don't stop exercising six months down the road.

Remember, the media like to focus on disaster porn and disaster porn happens to be rare and novel. Mass shooting don't happens everyday. So turn off your tv and research and make a rational decision.

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September 05, 2012, 01:35:04 AM
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People are relatively safe so far but if you have a dog just pray a cop never gets within shooting range of it. The last few years have been especially deadly for pets that get attached by vicious animals.
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September 05, 2012, 01:39:13 AM
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People are relatively safe so far but if you have a dog just pray a cop never gets within shooting range of it. The last few years have been especially deadly for pets that get attached by vicious animals.

There had been a few cases in the media of no-knock raids going wrong. This is a problem with improper police procedure and improper use of force. The ultimate cause is of course, the drug wars, but proximate cause is much easier to address.

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September 05, 2012, 01:41:41 AM
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There had been a few cases
That's quite the understatement.
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September 05, 2012, 01:42:57 AM
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There had been a few cases
That's quite the understatement.

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In other words, citation needed. (to be honest, I should cite my statistics too.)

Here my citation for death stat:

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/lcod.htm/

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm

The rest is math I entered into google.

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September 05, 2012, 01:52:37 AM
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I was talking about things like this: http://www.copblock.org/2404/police-murder-another-three-dogs-this-month/ That was from 2011 and the instances haven't gotten any less frequent since then.

Apparently pets are in far more danger than people at the moment.
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September 05, 2012, 02:04:50 AM
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I was talking about things like this: http://www.copblock.org/2404/police-murder-another-three-dogs-this-month/ That was from 2011 and the instances haven't gotten any less frequent since then.

Apparently pets are in far more danger than people at the moment.

Please compile statistics from the stories, access the reliability of the stories, then we're talking. Right now, it's just a hypothesis, with strong pointers.

Remember, it is easier to convince a human with a compelling story than it is easy to convince someone with statistics. This is called the "narrative fallacy", a term coined by Nassim Taleb.

Anyway, the purpose of my initial post in this thread is to promote fear inoculation. I hope whenever you guys saw a story in the mainstream media about a massacre, you'll remember my post and knows how overblown it is and tell your parents, your kids, your spouse, your friend, until death statistics become common knowledge that the media will say "this is a novel mass murder incident".

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