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May 13, 2015, 05:00:27 PM
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We don't have dash in between the words Wink Honestly we never heard about them before, so we tried not to name the website close to market leaders.
Kinda funny answer Cheesy
You do the search before registering a doman? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cryptogames
Otherwise: Nice website.

Establishing a .IO is always difficult. .COM/.NET/.ORG are good for the long run...

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May 13, 2015, 05:08:32 PM
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Hi, nice site.
Are you the owner of dicecoin.io?
Nope, but we managed to put our link on their main page. As far as I know they're doing great and plan to grow, so I think it was a nice move.
Hard to beleive that  Roll Eyes

http://whois.domaintools.com/cryptogames.io
http://whois.domaintools.com/dicecoin.io

Same owner, same hosting? Advertising other dice website on a dice website?
Backlink from dicecoin.io 4 weeks before publicly announce new website?

http://s2.postimg.org/5s1msq5tl/ahrefs1.png

I don't mind if you're the same owner or somehow involved with dicecoin.io, I just don't know why to hide?
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May 13, 2015, 06:02:32 PM
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Hi bitcoiners or... cryptocoiners!

Any way to invest?

We'll think about it, but not right now, too much to do in other areas.

Kinda funny answer Cheesy
You do the search before registering a doman? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cryptogames
Otherwise: Nice website.

No drama Vezalke, it's the nice name for the site. Self-descriptive, clear, relevant so we don't mind  Smiley

Establishing a .IO is always difficult. .COM/.NET/.ORG are good for the long run...

I see, you're talking about SEO. Actually we have experience of making web products with .IO successful. It doesn't mean I don't agree with you. with .COM/.NET it's easier to rank higher in the long run. But you know, we have own vision. Believing that a great product combined with a customer care will do good with or without .COM.

Hard to beleive that  Roll Eyes

http://whois.domaintools.com/cryptogames.io
http://whois.domaintools.com/dicecoin.io

Same owner, same hosting? Advertising other dice website on a dice website?
Backlink from dicecoin.io 4 weeks before publicly announce new website?

http://s2.postimg.org/5s1msq5tl/ahrefs1.png

I don't mind if you're the same owner or somehow involved with dicecoin.io, I just don't know why to hide?

BitBatFan, you're tough Cool I don't know if you're a fan of Sherlock Holmes, but I really like your investigation. Let me give you some more info. I know the owner of dicecoin.io personally, he have a nice team, well rounded in tech. We're more about design & user experience & marketing. So I did ask them to help setup all the tech environment for us. We managed to put a backlink to cryptogames.io on their main page as it was decided right at the pub. You could name it strategic partnership. Nevertheless in long run you'll definitely see the difference in our approach.


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May 13, 2015, 06:31:17 PM
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BitBatFan, you're tough Cool I don't know if you're a fan of Sherlock Holmes, but I really like your investigation. Let me give you some more info. I know the owner of dicecoin.io personally, he have a nice team, well rounded in tech. We're more about design & user experience & marketing. So I did ask them to help setup all the tech environment for us. We managed to put a backlink to cryptogames.io on their main page as it was decided right at the pub. You could name it strategic partnership. Nevertheless in long run you'll definitely see the difference in our approach.

Thanks for explanation!
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May 13, 2015, 07:51:59 PM
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Faucet seems far from perfect for me as well. It would be as it's right now for a while, then I want to make it better. Any feedback and suggestions on faucet are appreciated!

Nice to see that you're happy with our Fun Crypto Games. Faucet is fixed to 100 Satoshi right now, but it's the subject to change.
I understand that faucet is not a main concern on any gambling site but it can be a pretty decent marketing tool nonetheless. Your 100 Satoshi faucet is among the worst I've ever seen on any site.
When you are starting your gambling site you should make faucet really great. It will bring more people, and more people will be talking about big faucet on your site = more traffic and more income for you.
Later in the future you may even reduce faucet rewards if you wish, but for now 100 Satoshi is like crazy low. It is better to be generous and earn from it in the long run imo.
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May 14, 2015, 05:30:46 AM
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I understand that faucet is not a main concern on any gambling site but it can be a pretty decent marketing tool nonetheless. Your 100 Satoshi faucet is among the worst I've ever seen on any site.
When you are starting your gambling site you should make faucet really great. It will bring more people, and more people will be talking about big faucet on your site = more traffic and more income for you.
Later in the future you may even reduce faucet rewards if you wish, but for now 100 Satoshi is like crazy low. It is better to be generous and earn from it in the long run imo.

Hi Slark. Agreeing with each of your words. We need progressive Faucet to favor active gamblers. But it seems to me that you hasn't been following the thread for a while. We raised the Faucet to 500 Satoshis yesterday.

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May 14, 2015, 07:02:26 AM
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decided to try it out, the faucet pays 500 satoshi which i think is enough to try the games out, i really liked the design i think its one of the best in bitcoin gambling world. also do you require any confirmations to count the deposited amount or to let people withdraw their money? i didnt find any info about it on deposit tab

Nice to hear that we're "one of the best in bitcoin gambling world" in the design category. Thanks GrandmaJean. Back to your questions:
- We have Instant Deposit. It means that you don't need any confirmations for deposit.
- For Withdraw we require 2 confirmations for BTC, 3 for LTC and 4 for DOGE.

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May 14, 2015, 02:30:07 PM
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decided to try it out, the faucet pays 500 satoshi which i think is enough to try the games out, i really liked the design i think its one of the best in bitcoin gambling world. also do you require any confirmations to count the deposited amount or to let people withdraw their money? i didnt find any info about it on deposit tab

Nice to hear that we're "one of the best in bitcoin gambling world" in the design category. Thanks GrandmaJean. Back to your questions:
- We have Instant Deposit. It means that you don't need any confirmations for deposit.
- For Withdraw we require 2 confirmations for BTC, 3 for LTC and 4 for DOGE.

will you display game hashes, before the game starts?
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May 14, 2015, 02:44:16 PM
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wow nice design, when you add chat feature? Cool
its can great site if use feature chat and tip ^^

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May 15, 2015, 06:44:26 AM
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wow nice design, when you add chat feature? Cool
its can great site if use feature chat and tip ^^

We'll have a chat for sure, it's nice communication tool we would like to have on Cryptogames.io.

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May 15, 2015, 07:23:04 AM
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We've added MIN button below the bet amount field. As it was suggested here.

We're listening, we're hearing!

Please go on with any further suggestions to our site.


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May 15, 2015, 09:42:55 AM
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will you display game hashes, before the game starts?

We have a bit different verification system to what you're talking about. We do not generate hashes before each game. If you've done at least 5 bets, you could do the randomization to see the previous client seed. This client seed could be used to verify previous bets you've played. Actual client seed is always hidden.

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May 15, 2015, 09:49:48 AM
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We have a bit different verification system to what you're talking about. We do not generate hashes before each game. If you've done at least 5 bets, you could do the randomization to see the previous client seed. This client seed could be used to verify previous bets you've played. Actual client seed is always hidden.

Seems a bit akward here if you dont display on the hashes before the game play. Displaying the seed after bet would be pointless because there is a chance for the house to cheat

Lets put on the simple example here

Bet #1 player choose 1 result 1 player win, house could cheat by displaying 2 because the hashes is not shown before the game
bet #2 player choose 1 result 2 player lose
bet #3 player choose 1 result 3 player lose
bet #4 player choose 1 result 4 player lose
bet #5 player choose 1 result 5 player lose

After bet #5 the seed shown could be anything to match the result from bet #1 so that player could not really verify the result of it as the house could show whatever the seed is to match the cheated result

P.S : I may be wrong though

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May 15, 2015, 10:02:42 AM
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Cool site guys, thanks for this.
I like the look of the minesweeper game, looks super fun.
I might sign up & have a go later.
Some really nice new sites popping up lately, this looks like another one.
I'll let you guys know how I get on.
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May 16, 2015, 04:19:22 AM
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Cool site guys, thanks for this.
I like the look of the minesweeper game, looks super fun.
I might sign up & have a go later.
Some really nice new sites popping up lately, this looks like another one.
I'll let you guys know how I get on.
Good luck everybody.

Thanks, LFC_Bitcoin, will be happy to see you as a frequent gambler on Cryptogames.io  Cool

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May 17, 2015, 06:09:38 AM
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We have a bit different verification system to what you're talking about. We do not generate hashes before each game. If you've done at least 5 bets, you could do the randomization to see the previous client seed. This client seed could be used to verify previous bets you've played. Actual client seed is always hidden.

Seems a bit akward here if you dont display on the hashes before the game play. Displaying the seed after bet would be pointless because there is a chance for the house to cheat

Lets put on the simple example here

Bet #1 player choose 1 result 1 player win, house could cheat by displaying 2 because the hashes is not shown before the game
bet #2 player choose 1 result 2 player lose
bet #3 player choose 1 result 3 player lose
bet #4 player choose 1 result 4 player lose
bet #5 player choose 1 result 5 player lose

After bet #5 the seed shown could be anything to match the result from bet #1 so that player could not really verify the result of it as the house could show whatever the seed is to match the cheated result

P.S : I may be wrong though


Hi arallmuus. Saying "client seed" I meant "server seed". Sorry for the misprint that drove you out of the actual implementation. Basically before each game you could see all hashes on the randomisation page. After next randomisation procedure you have everything necessary to ensure that previous results were fair.

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May 17, 2015, 07:34:44 AM
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We have a bit different verification system to what you're talking about. We do not generate hashes before each game. If you've done at least 5 bets, you could do the randomization to see the previous client seed. This client seed could be used to verify previous bets you've played. Actual client seed is always hidden.

Seems a bit akward here if you dont display on the hashes before the game play. Displaying the seed after bet would be pointless because there is a chance for the house to cheat

Lets put on the simple example here

Bet #1 player choose 1 result 1 player win, house could cheat by displaying 2 because the hashes is not shown before the game
bet #2 player choose 1 result 2 player lose
bet #3 player choose 1 result 3 player lose
bet #4 player choose 1 result 4 player lose
bet #5 player choose 1 result 5 player lose

After bet #5 the seed shown could be anything to match the result from bet #1 so that player could not really verify the result of it as the house could show whatever the seed is to match the cheated result

P.S : I may be wrong though


Hi arallmuus. Saying "client seed" I meant "server seed". Sorry for the misprint that drove you out of the actual implementation. Basically before each game you could see all hashes on the randomisation page. After next randomisation procedure you have everything necessary to ensure that previous results were fair.

The same thing applied for the server seed as well. If you dont show it beforehand and only show it after you could change the seed to match into the result that you desired.
From the bolded part it seems that you are missleading a bit? 1st bolded part shows that you dont generate hashes before the game and the 2nd part shows that we could see the hashes before each game which means that it is generated beforehand ?

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May 17, 2015, 07:37:00 AM
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Loving your site cryptogames.io it takes the seriousness away from gambling with the game effect. Waiting for my btc to come from storage and then I will be depositing a small amount to test the waters. Look forward to seeing you  Kiss
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Last edit: May 21, 2015, 06:06:02 AM by Cryptogames
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Hi guys!

huadylmate, good luck with your endeavour! Please keep us posted on your success!

arallmuus let me show you the real world example so it would be easier to grasp the idea.

Provably Fair step-by-step guide for Cryptogames.io

1. You play the Minesweeper at Cryptogames, than would like to ensure that the bet you've done is Provably fair.

2. After opening the page of the bet you see codes generated at the bottom of the page. You could notice that Server Seed (Hashed) is already shown to you. With this code you could ensure that Server Seed which is hidden right now, is valid. To get actual Server Seed, Randomization should be done:



3. After you've clicked on "Randomize" button, the new pair of Server Seed and Server Seed (Hashed) is generated. You could see new Server Seed (Hashed) on the form below:



4. When we have new Server Seed, the old one (used to prove the bet) revealed. Now you everything is in place to verify the bet:



5. He is the verification form, pre-filled at users convenience with the data from previous page.



6. Voilà!




P.S. We can't change Server Seed as the Server Seed (Hashed) is known from the start.


Hope it was detailed enough so you could easily reproduce it with your new bets Wink


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May 26, 2015, 06:37:03 AM
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I see great activity on the site at the moment. I'm encouraging the most successful players to share their winning strategy.

Good day to everybody!

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