US Govt: “We're considering not lying anymore, for real.”

[MightyStorm]

What exactly is going on?

The U.S. House of Representatives has voted to end dragnet spying on American communications.

[ausbit]

The US has finally seen the wrong in their ways.  

[JohnnyBTCSeed]

Translation: we have found a way to lie even more.


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[Kprawn]

If it was not for the Snowden's of the world, these things would still be going on. Applebaum and his team are doing a great job to protect our online privacy. 

They did not agree on stopping dragnet spying, so your privacy is still under jeopardy. Leave the kinky talk with your wife, when you in bed... no more sexy Sms, email, facebook chats...the N$A is watching.

They just saying, we will dragnet, but we will focus on high risk individuals, not normal civilians. 

[Gleb Gamow]

Translation: we have found a way to lie even more.


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[NUFCrichard]

What exactly is going on?

The U.S. House of Representatives has voted to end dragnet spying on American communications.

I would take that to mean that they know everyone expects that they are spying, so they have decided to stop the current methods of spying and plan to start a new method!

Dragnet should be at an end, but even in the unlikely situation that they actually temporarily stop spying, it won't last long until they find reasons why they desparately need to spy again.

[galdur]

Well, the supply of idiots who take serial liars seriously has to dry up eventually. That goes without saying. So they´re running into marketing problems.

[username18333]

Deference to Hierarchy

1. (crime) to both (1) machinate a counter to either heterarchy, its manifestation, or both and (2) actualize the same counter

[galdur]

I don´t really follow well the nutjobs that nutcases hire to head this NSA thing. Wasn´t it Clapper that lied in Congress and then was flushed down and up popped the next turd some weirdo admiral? This guy?

-- Michael S. Rogers with dark circles around eyes from extended viewing of other peoples' porn habits.  

[UliJonHoth]

I don´t really follow well the nutjobs that nutcases hire to head this NSA thing. Wasn´t it Clapper that lied in Congress and then was flushed down and up popped the next turd some weirdo admiral? This guy?

-- Michael S. Rogers with dark circles around eyes from extended viewing of other peoples' porn habits.  

Yeah, it was Clapper - been over two years and he still hasn't been indicted for perjury.

And Rogers does look like a total creep, perfect for the job...

[galdur]

Ah yes, it´s been that long ago. How time flies. Watch the guy´s body language. He´s not even a good liar but doesn´t care at all. Why should he, he´s working for a totalitarian system answering to a rubber-stamp congress.

Watch U.S. Intel Chief Clapper Lie to Congress

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LKzAsIMUx8

[username18333]

Well, the supply of idiots who take serial liars seriously has to dry up eventually. That goes without saying. So they´re running into marketing problems.

Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence. The results provide substantial support for theories of Economic-Elite Domination and for theories of Biased Pluralism, but not for theories of Majoritarian Electoral Democracy or Majoritarian Pluralism.

[galdur]

Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence.

Yes, that´s pretty much hitting it on the head. I´m sure that analysts have come to the same conclusion in diverse systems before, for example in France in the late 1700´s.

[username18333]

Yes, that’s pretty much hitting it on the head. I’m sure that analysts have come to the same conclusion in diverse systems before, for example in France in the late 1700’s.

Which begs a question: “Why did the U.S. House of (Pseudo-)Representatives contract (at least, in law) the reach of the U.S. government?”

[galdur]

Well, username the figurehead is voted for in "elections" and then Wall St. fills his administration with people that nobody voted for. As for Congress, it´s just rubber-stamping. They even sometimes admit that they often hardly read what they´re handed to stamp. Being law and policy made again by people that nobody voted for in any elections, think tanks, Wall St. groups, lobbyists et cetera et cetera.

I think America needs to discover something that is called democracy and switch their totalitarian system to that or their version of it. They should really try it. It seems to work passably well in many places around the world.

[Rizla2345]

Haha, that NSA guy looks like a serial killer or something.

[username18333]

Well, username the figurehead is voted for in "elections" and then Wall St. fills his administration with people that nobody voted for.

Your post does not address, among other things, the self-denial that are the subject of the question.

[galdur]

Well, username the figurehead is voted for in "elections" and then Wall St. fills his administration with people that nobody voted for.

Your post does not address, among other things, the self-denial that are the subject of the question.

I guess that one comes from not having much of a friggin clue most of the time what the heck they´re passing. They being little more than rubber stamps. So it gets confusing for them.

[username18333]

I guess that one comes from not having much of a friggin clue most of the time what the heck they’re passing. They being little more than rubber stamps. So it gets confusing for them.

And if Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself; how then shall his kingdom subsist?

And if Satan rise up against himself, and is divided, he cannot subsist, but has an end.

[galdur]

Well, anyway. I´m actually a great admirer of America and Americans and you have never seen me bash them, It´s their crazy rulers I have megatons of problems with and have had as long as I remember. Good luck, g