[ANN] [XRDN] Project Radon - Rebrand update released - Hard fork at block 338000

[Skatebird]

just saw tech for radon let me say it most impressive tech i seen so far in crypto 

what out now nothing compared to what come

I was shown a demo and I am impressed as well, instant transfers and encrypted file sharing.

Great !! Devs looks to have lot of ideas a nice skills

[Kimowa]

also follow legal route what crypto need this is one to see 

[tm2013]

Working on some bug fixes before the initial demo release, but here's some new UI work from tonight:

[idol]

this is gonna get exciting 

[mistercashking]

very exciting. Looking forward to it. Project Sounds like something we've never seen done before in crypto.

[tm2013]

We are looking for what platform would be preferred among the community to distribute shares in Project Radon. Any suggestions?

[jasemoney]

We are looking for what platform would be preferred among the community to distribute shares in Project Radon. Any suggestions?

blockchain snapshot at some future height and throw away the xradon chain after, let people unlock their radon balance with their xradon priv key... like protoshares.

[goblynn]

We are looking for what platform would be preferred among the community to distribute shares in Project Radon. Any suggestions?

blockchain snapshot at some future height and throw away the xradon chain after, let people unlock their radon balance with their xradon priv key... like protoshares.

but xradon is the source for Radon...since radon doesnt stake or be mined..there needs to be a means for new coins to be created

hence the continued POS

[jasemoney]

After 21 million bitcoin there won't be any more. So why can't there only be 1.5 million radon? Can you trust a pos coin with low network participation? History proves we cant. So why rely on a network where 95+% are planned to be burnt or destroyed in a conversion process. What keeps me from keeping a large ammt and screwing the xradon network over in 6 months with some huge netweight after most people swapped.
not having xradon post swap wouldn't affect the radon network. But why even bother. Xradon for initial distribution method doesn't need a continued distribution. You'll be able to buy/sell radon itself and radon won't rely on the xradon in any way other than for the swap.
Just do the swap and don't look back.

[tm2013]

We are looking for what platform would be preferred among the community to distribute shares in Project Radon. Any suggestions?

blockchain snapshot at some future height and throw away the xradon chain after, let people unlock their radon balance with their xradon priv key... like protoshares.

Thats a good idea for snapshot to radon then no more xradon converted into radon.
However after the snapshot, the xradon chain can still run but no way to convert into radon. that is ok. xradon can have its own features and innovations maybe?
If anyone doesn't know what a snapshot is, its like a big richlist that has a list of all the balances.

The idea was to have both contain many new innovations. Both ideas however have their own merit in their own right.

[tm2013]

Another way would be to make a burn address for xradon, and people send coins to it. and then you can see on the block explorer who sent coins to the burn address.
Then you can send to those addresses manually or use a script to do it in an automated way to save you time.
and then to redeem their coins they can import the private keys they used to burn with into radon.

both the burn method and the snapshot method require the radon wallet to work with xradon private and public keys. which i don't think they do. so is their a way you can make them work?

Using the method of a snapshot and an automated script would be best.

[tm2013]

Another way would be to make a burn address for xradon, and people send coins to it. and then you can see on the block explorer who sent coins to the burn address.
Then you can send to those addresses manually or use a script to do it in an automated way to save you time.
and then to redeem their coins they can import the private keys they used to burn with into radon.

both the burn method and the snapshot method require the radon wallet to work with xradon private and public keys. which i don't think they do. so is their a way you can make them work?

Using the method of a snapshot and an automated script would be best.

Cool
Even in the way of the snapshot, the private and public keys of the wallets are different i think. So the radon wallet will need to be able to send to xradon public keys, and be able to import xradon private keys too for sending to the snapshot list to work.
There is a way for that to work right?

The private key structure is different, but the public key structure can easily be modified to match the format of an xRDN public key.
Edit: so in that case, a hybrid burn/snapshot will be done.

[tm2013]

Another way would be to make a burn address for xradon, and people send coins to it. and then you can see on the block explorer who sent coins to the burn address.
Then you can send to those addresses manually or use a script to do it in an automated way to save you time.
and then to redeem their coins they can import the private keys they used to burn with into radon.

both the burn method and the snapshot method require the radon wallet to work with xradon private and public keys. which i don't think they do. so is their a way you can make them work?

Using the method of a snapshot and an automated script would be best.

Cool
Even in the way of the snapshot, the private and public keys of the wallets are different i think. So the radon wallet will need to be able to send to xradon public keys, and be able to import xradon private keys too for sending to the snapshot list to work.
There is a way for that to work right?

The private key structure is different, but the public key structure can easily be modified to match the format of an xRDN public key.
Edit: so in that case, a hybrid burn/snapshot will be done.

wait i don't understand.
both ways will need radon to be able to import xradon private keys.

Not really. You would be able to send your xRadon to your Radon account. You would still own your coins, they're just transferred onto the new chain.

[tm2013]

Another way would be to make a burn address for xradon, and people send coins to it. and then you can see on the block explorer who sent coins to the burn address.
Then you can send to those addresses manually or use a script to do it in an automated way to save you time.
and then to redeem their coins they can import the private keys they used to burn with into radon.

both the burn method and the snapshot method require the radon wallet to work with xradon private and public keys. which i don't think they do. so is their a way you can make them work?

Using the method of a snapshot and an automated script would be best.

Cool
Even in the way of the snapshot, the private and public keys of the wallets are different i think. So the radon wallet will need to be able to send to xradon public keys, and be able to import xradon private keys too for sending to the snapshot list to work.
There is a way for that to work right?

The private key structure is different, but the public key structure can easily be modified to match the format of an xRDN public key.
Edit: so in that case, a hybrid burn/snapshot will be done.

wait i don't understand.
both ways will need radon to be able to import xradon private keys.

Not really. You would be able to send your xRadon to your Radon account. You would still own your coins, they're just transferred onto the new chain.

Without being able to import the private key, there will be no way to prove that you own the address, and no way to spend them.

The point is not to keep the coins at your original address. You send them to your new xRadon address that is tied to your Radon private key. Those coins become technically unspendable, but are still verified sent to the new xRadon address before the chain is snapshotted and frozen.

[tm2013]

Another way would be to make a burn address for xradon, and people send coins to it. and then you can see on the block explorer who sent coins to the burn address.
Then you can send to those addresses manually or use a script to do it in an automated way to save you time.
and then to redeem their coins they can import the private keys they used to burn with into radon.

both the burn method and the snapshot method require the radon wallet to work with xradon private and public keys. which i don't think they do. so is their a way you can make them work?

Using the method of a snapshot and an automated script would be best.

Cool
Even in the way of the snapshot, the private and public keys of the wallets are different i think. So the radon wallet will need to be able to send to xradon public keys, and be able to import xradon private keys too for sending to the snapshot list to work.
There is a way for that to work right?

The private key structure is different, but the public key structure can easily be modified to match the format of an xRDN public key.
Edit: so in that case, a hybrid burn/snapshot will be done.

wait i don't understand.
both ways will need radon to be able to import xradon private keys.

Not really. You would be able to send your xRadon to your Radon account. You would still own your coins, they're just transferred onto the new chain.

Without being able to import the private key, there will be no way to prove that you own the address, and no way to spend them.

The point is not to keep the coins at your original address. You send them to your new xRadon address that is tied to your Radon private key. Those coins become technically unspendable, but are still verified sent to the new xRadon address before the chain is snapshotted and frozen.

I am confused. How will you know which new addresses are the radon addresses. its impossible to know.

I thought you were gonna make a snapshot of the xradon blockchain, like make a big list of the addresses and balances people have on the xradon blockchain like a big richlist of all addresses. and then use an automated script to send the radon balances to the addresses of xradon that are on the snapshot list.
in which case they need to be able to import the xradon private keys into the radon wallet in order to use.

Well I guess it will be more complicated than any of these solutions. Just join in the slack channel and we can continue discussing it.

[Sythyn]

any more details on this are we supposed to trade the coin in?

[jasemoney]

any more details on this are we supposed to trade the coin in?

hopefully after the hipos reward drops from its current 25 per block in 5 days

[rahmad2nd]

price dying...
waiting more detail dev for future

[Trial]

What quantity of coins will be?

[tm2013]

Ok so my idea is:
There doesn't have to be 2 coins.
This coin can be called Radon. and ticker RDN instead of being called xrdn and xradon.
Then, the platform is called xRadon.
Radon would have a good roadmap and long term plan.
and the platform uses RDN. no coin swaps or anything. people just deposit their current RDN and withdraw freely.
And in the platform, people can send and receive RDN instantly and anonymously to each on the radon platform.
And when ever people want to withdraw their RDN to their wallet they can withdraw in a withdraw section of the platform.
That is part 1
and part 1 would include 1 coin only (the one we are currently using). and there is no need for another coin or any coin swap at all.
so to sum it up, basically radon would have the same on-chain  transactions we have now. and it would also have off-chain transactions.
and the off-chain transactions would be instant and anonymous.
now in the first step the off-chain would be run on the devs servers and we would have to trust him not to rob us.

Second step would be to develop it further to be a trustless system that is run on a distributed network of nodes run by the people. and then people can charge fees for processing these off-chain transactions.
This will mean Radon would have decentralized, trustless, instant, anonymous, off-chain scalable transactions.
 
Meaning we would be a top 10 coin.

 

That is a very good idea. Any objections to not going this route?