Should Bitcointalk sell coin communitites a subsection of the forum

[JohnnyBTCSeed]

What if the administrator of this place, (bitcointalk), allowed coin communities to have their own subsection for a price?

Alot of coin communities label bitcointalk as toxic. They then start their own forum. Traffic leaves with them. Why not encourage their traffic to stay.

Rules could be:
If a coin announcement has been here for 1 year and has x number of views then the coin community would have the option to buy a subsection of bitcointalk dedicated to their coin.


I'd imagine the altcoin section would still have a general discussion section like now but in addition, a coin community could buy the rights to have a subsection in the altcoin area where they could post dedicated threads to that coin.

Could generate some extra money for the site. And who doesn't like money?

Thoughts?

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[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

Satoshi made bitcointalk and passed on ownership to theymos.

Do you think Satoshi wants his forum to sell whore off space to crapcoins?!?!

[doves]

Satoshi made bitcointalk and passed on ownership to theymos.

Do you think Satoshi wants his forum to sell whore off space to crapcoins?!?!

Satoshi left this forum, theymos ended up being the de facto owner. If you have other infos please provide.

[Muhammed Zakir]

Satoshi made bitcointalk and passed on ownership to theymos.

Do you think Satoshi wants his forum to sell whore off space to crapcoins?!?!

Satoshi left this forum, theymos ended up being the de facto owner. If you have other infos please provide.

I've decided not to create an official announcement thread today. But I will answer some questions.

Who is the owner of the forum?

I've answered this before.

The forum was created by Satoshi and Sirius. Without any explicit agreement or assignment of ownership, it came to be the case that I am now chiefly responsible for forum management. The domain is owned by Sirius. I have no way of forcing him to do anything with it. (Though I recently did gain partial access so that I can change DNS records.) I control a lot of the forum's money. Sirius cannot force me to do anything with this. Various treasurers control other forum money; they're bound by the treasury agreements.

I am not a lawyer, so I can't say for sure who the forum's owner is legally-speaking, and this is irrelevant to me unless I'm dealing with legal stuff.
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[doves]

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That's what de facto owner means, yeah.

[hilariousandco]

Why would they need to buy their own section when they already have an entire subforum to post in? I really doubt theymos cares that much about alt coins having their own forum - most of them are completely dead any way.

[JohnnyBTCSeed]

Why would they need to buy their own section when they already have an entire subforum to post in? I really doubt theymos cares that much about alt coins having their own forum - most of them are completely dead any way.

They as in the 500+ altcoins?

Besides the generic catch all category that is altcoin general discussions, each thread gets put in the ANN section like a needle in a haystack. Improvements could be made here.


Correct not much caring going on around here.

Like how Theymos don't care that

Spammers and Scammers run wild.

[JohnnyBTCSeed]

Satoshi made bitcointalk and passed on ownership to theymos.

Do you think Satoshi wants his forum to sell whore off space to crapcoins?!?!

LOL,,  No whoring at all here on BTT. NONE. Never happened. Not one person has whored it up on
BTT.

Not Now Not Never!!

[hilariousandco]

If the coins were that popular then they would always be at the top so decent ones wouldn't be 'lost', but why would they need their own entire sub? So they can have about five dead threads in? Take a look at the Litecoin forum. LTC's (arguably the second biggest coin) forum is completely dead. The others are worse. It's pointless having their own forum and it's pointless having their own sub sections here.

[JohnnyBTCSeed]

If the coins were that popular then they would always be at the top so decent ones wouldn't be 'lost', but why would they need their own entire sub? So they can have about five dead threads in? Take a look at the Litecoin forum. LTC's (arguably the second biggest coin) forum is completely dead. The others are worse. It's pointless having their own forum and it's pointless having their own sub sections here.

If it's pointless,

Then their empty threads won't take up much harddrive space and the BTT wins as it gets extra revenue from hosting those empty threads. WIN WIN

[Muhammed Zakir]

If the coins were that popular then they would always be at the top so decent ones wouldn't be 'lost', but why would they need their own entire sub? So they can have about five dead threads in? Take a look at the Litecoin forum. LTC's (arguably the second biggest coin) forum is completely dead. The others are worse. It's pointless having their own forum and it's pointless having their own sub sections here.

If it's pointless,

Then their empty threads won't take up much harddrive space and the BTT wins as it gets extra revenue from hosting those empty threads. WIN WIN

Boards for empty/dead threads is pointless and it won't increase ad revenue. Also, Bitcointalk doesn't need more money than it earns now.

[JohnnyBTCSeed]

If the coins were that popular then they would always be at the top so decent ones wouldn't be 'lost', but why would they need their own entire sub? So they can have about five dead threads in? Take a look at the Litecoin forum. LTC's (arguably the second biggest coin) forum is completely dead. The others are worse. It's pointless having their own forum and it's pointless having their own sub sections here.

If it's pointless,

Then their empty threads won't take up much harddrive space and the BTT wins as it gets extra revenue from hosting those empty threads. WIN WIN

Boards for empty/dead threads is pointless and it won't increase ad revenue. Also, Bitcointalk doesn't need more money than it earns now.

I just want to go on record stating that I don't think their will be empty threads. Was just responding.

What kind of traffic does the altcoin section bring to BTT? I assume it is high else it would have been removed as there seem to be alot of alt haters round these parts

[shorena]

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What kind of traffic does the altcoin section bring to BTT? I assume it is high else it would have been removed as there seem to be alot of alt haters round these parts

The altcoin section is indeed the most popular section here, at least the last time I checked. I would be surprised if the stats did change dramatically. The question is what would they buy? A subboard? Would it be a monthly fee paid in advance? Would it come with mod rights for that section? What happens if the fee is no longer paid? What if this was misused to give a scam coin an air of legitimacy? Would there be any responsibilities for theymos (et al.)?

Just from the number of questions that come up with a few moments of considering this a valid option my guess is that its not worth the (possible) hassle for theymos. The board is not in need of funds and this would increase the workload for the staff immensely.

[Jeremycoin]

Honestly, I'm agree with this idea while the contract is not permanent. Because if it's permanent, this forum will bi just full of that subsection

[JohnnyBTCSeed]

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What kind of traffic does the altcoin section bring to BTT? I assume it is high else it would have been removed as there seem to be alot of alt haters round these parts

The altcoin section is indeed the most popular section here, at least the last time I checked. I would be surprised if the stats did change dramatically. The question is what would they buy? A subboard? Would it be a monthly fee paid in advance? Would it come with mod rights for that section? What happens if the fee is no longer paid? What if this was misused to give a scam coin an air of legitimacy? Would there be any responsibilities for theymos (et al.)?

Just from the number of questions that come up with a few moments of considering this a valid option my guess is that its not worth the (possible) hassle for theymos. The board is not in need of funds and this would increase the workload for the staff immensely.

1. Yes they would buy a subboard

2. A 6 month contract. Then depending on community behavior per mods renewed or not. This would create an incentive for communities to not be annoying or scammy.

3. Maybe mod rights after proven first 6 months, or just negotiable.

4.section gets locked and then deleted after x months

5. As per OP communities would have to meet a prereq before allowed to do this. Ie: be here for atleast a year plus x amount of posts.

6. I cant speak to the work load being done round here. Not sure why the funds generated for this feature wouldnt pay for another member?

[Assad]

Please no,

It will only clutter the forum, make the new topic things useless and make the ignore board option useless because every day another subsection will appear out of nowhere

[shorena]

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What kind of traffic does the altcoin section bring to BTT? I assume it is high else it would have been removed as there seem to be alot of alt haters round these parts

The altcoin section is indeed the most popular section here, at least the last time I checked. I would be surprised if the stats did change dramatically. The question is what would they buy? A subboard? Would it be a monthly fee paid in advance? Would it come with mod rights for that section? What happens if the fee is no longer paid? What if this was misused to give a scam coin an air of legitimacy? Would there be any responsibilities for theymos (et al.)?

Just from the number of questions that come up with a few moments of considering this a valid option my guess is that its not worth the (possible) hassle for theymos. The board is not in need of funds and this would increase the workload for the staff immensely.

1. Yes they would buy a subboard

2. A 6 month contract. Then depending on community behavior per mods renewed or not. This would create an incentive for communities to not be annoying or scammy.

3. Maybe mod rights after proven first 6 months, or just negotiable.

4.section gets locked and then deleted after x months

5. As per OP communities would have to meet a prereq before allowed to do this. Ie: be here for atleast a year plus x amount of posts.

6. I cant speak to the work load being done round here. Not sure why the funds generated for this feature wouldnt pay for another member?

1-5 sound reasonable even though I dont think this will happen. On the other hand theymos is handling the ads as well, maybe he could auction a subboard every other week for alt coins that meet certain criteria (e.g. the above).

Regarding 6, what do you mean with "the funds[...]pay for another member"?

[Coinshot]

Regarding 6, what do you mean with "the funds[...]pay for another member"?

Pay for a mod

[SaltySpitoon]

What if the administrator of this place, (bitcointalk), allowed coin communities to have their own subsection for a price?

Alot of coin communities label bitcointalk as toxic. They then start their own forum. Traffic leaves with them. Why not encourage their traffic to stay.

Rules could be:
If a coin announcement has been here for 1 year and has x number of views then the coin community would have the option to buy a subsection of bitcointalk dedicated to their coin.


I'd imagine the altcoin section would still have a general discussion section like now but in addition, a coin community could buy the rights to have a subsection in the altcoin area where they could post dedicated threads to that coin.

Could generate some extra money for the site. And who doesn't like money?

Thoughts?

It almost certainly wont happen. Bitcointalk is labeled as toxic because it doesn't care about Alt Coins one way or the other and for whatever reason, people don't like that. This is Bitcointalk, the forum's objective it to allow people a place to discuss Bitcoin related topics. People have proposed ways to "vet" coins for special privileges here to separate the longer lasting coins from the new, but as stated, the forum staff/admins don't really care to. We have been trying to encourage people to create their own communities like we have created here for Bitcoin, because we can't appropriately serve multiple niches.

Bitcointalk's indifference towards alt coins only changes to disdain when it interferes with Bitcoin discussion, which is why it was given its own section. Removing the Alt Section would just lead to people posting about alt coins in Bitcoin related boards, which would be even more annoying. 


 

[dogie]

Bitcointalk's indifference towards alt coins only changes to disdain when it interferes with Bitcoin discussion, which is why it was given its own section. Removing the Alt Section would just lead to people posting about alt coins in Bitcoin related boards, which would be even more annoying. 

Which is also why lots of subforums we don't necessarily want, are required. Trying to stop the bath running by closing the bathroom door does not work, its simply going to floor the rest of your house.