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May 21, 2015, 03:01:47 AM
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"Assuming no major crisis in bitcoin"...

The delusion in this guy is strong.

He's just super conservative



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May 21, 2015, 03:12:53 AM
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i also believe that because as time passes by, day by day there are more and more people who are being aware of bitcoin
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May 21, 2015, 06:07:58 AM
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like Satoshi said(not exactly):

in 5 or 10 years either the vast mojority of retailers will accept Bitcoin or none will accept it

the correct sentence was referring to transactions volume, "I’m sure that in 20 years there will either be very large (bitcoin) transaction volume or no volume."

for future reference http://crypt.la/2014/01/06/satoshi-nakamoto-quotes/
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May 21, 2015, 06:14:44 AM
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so we can assume that we need at least two halving, and that the coming one is not enough, it make sense seeing how the price is still crippled


Not neccesarily related to the halving and the price of bitcoin. Retailers accepting probably means through current methods, ie. changing directly to fiat at purchase. Price won't matter than.
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May 21, 2015, 07:18:53 AM
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"In 5 or 10 years I think every online retailer will accept Bitcoin." - Gavin Andresen

https://youtu.be/iQ2TOFIgvis

Awesome 15 second quote from Gavin during this New York Public Library discussion on May 19, 2015.


I think it's going to bee sooner than that.
More like two to three years from now.

It doesn't make sense to give 3%+ of your sale to any payment processor instead of just paying a few cent.

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May 21, 2015, 07:21:45 AM
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I would venture to guess it will be sooner than that.  I am sure every online retailer won't in five years but the ones that don't won't be around another five years.  Cheesy

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May 21, 2015, 07:30:46 AM
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How is the time limit evaluate?  However, more and more retailers accept Bitcoin now and we could charge for items with Bitcoin often, then the business with bitcoin can run well.
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May 21, 2015, 07:35:39 AM
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Disagree. Five years seem too short. Ten years seem too short too. I dont think Bitcoin will be accepted by every online retailers. Everything that is popular will have haters. Take the famous Korean Pop song example. Many people like it and it hit Youtube max count. I'm one of those who dont like the song.

If he say more than 75% of online retailers then.. I might agree with it. It might take around 10 years before 75% of online retailers will accept Bitcoin.

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May 21, 2015, 07:37:29 AM
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I would venture to guess it will be sooner than that.  I am sure every online retailer won't in five years but the ones that don't won't be around another five years.  Cheesy

You never know.
It is cheaper, faster and easier to set-up accepting Bitcoin payments other than anything else.
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May 21, 2015, 07:43:58 AM
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yeah . totally true. bitcoin has grown alot from before. it is been used in many sites and places.
it is use mostly by the people for buying goods online and also used for paying bills and online transactions.
in future bitcoin will be used at most of the places.
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May 21, 2015, 07:58:24 AM
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so we can assume that we need at least two halving, and that the coming one is not enough, it make sense seeing how the price is still crippled


Not neccesarily related to the halving and the price of bitcoin. Retailers accepting probably means through current methods, ie. changing directly to fiat at purchase. Price won't matter than.
I personally don't like that. We don't need retailers that instantly convert to fiat. They're only doing it so that they attract more people (i.e. Bitcoin users).
However we know there are companies that keep a certain % or some that don't convert at all. There was a list around somewhere on the forums.
We need that kind of merchants.

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Let me be the one to burst the bubble. Do not get me wrong, I am a huge BTC fan and I will support it to the end BUT I am a realistic too. We assume BTC will be the de fact coin and everyone will be converted. WU and the banks are not sitting on their hands, they are investing millions into the development of their own technologies. <Mastercard Send, was launched yesterday to counter Bitcoin>
My prediction would be a maximum of 3 years dominance for Bitcoin and then a complete replacement by a NEW technology.

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May 21, 2015, 08:13:15 AM
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so we can assume that we need at least two halving, and that the coming one is not enough, it make sense seeing how the price is still crippled


Not neccesarily related to the halving and the price of bitcoin. Retailers accepting probably means through current methods, ie. changing directly to fiat at purchase. Price won't matter than.
I personally don't like that. We don't need retailers that instantly convert to fiat. They're only doing it so that they attract more people (i.e. Bitcoin users).
However we know there are companies that keep a certain % or some that don't convert at all. There was a list around somewhere on the forums.
We need that kind of merchants.

Those merchants would only appear if bitcoins are widely accepted throughout the globe. In the current times, merchants would be glad to convert their coins to fiat for some profit. That's why they're doing business in the first place. Also, what would they do with the bitcoins if it isn't generally accepted by the public if they start implementing it? Speculate just as what the day traders do? I don't think so. These businesses need some steady inflow of profits so that they could use it to expand. Bitcoins wouldn't help in that cause mainly because of the price volatility and it isn't that mainstream yet. In order to compensate with the implementation of bitcoins as a form of payment in their businesses, bitcoins must be a widely-accepted money around the globe so that these businesses could use bitcoins to expand without risking some percentage of their gains because of price volatility.
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May 21, 2015, 09:56:03 AM
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it is gonna be such a wonderful life when every online retailer will accept btc. bitcoins and bitcoins everywhere. people will be mesmerized to use bitcoins. its about 5 years left for 2020 when i think the world will be bitcoin proven . where each person will be using bitcoins for every transaction.
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Last time i check transaction is instant. You think CC confirmation is instant?


Firstly , credit card transaction felt instant because merchants trust the CC company to honour their part of the deal.Considering the amount of petty larceny and scamming attempt they already facing ,do you expect a chain retailer would trust some anonymous stranger that easily?


Secondly, I don't use CC or even debit card for very small transaction.Paying around 10%( even go to 50% for some of my smallest purchases) transaction fee  to use bitcoin isn't really a selling point.

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Let me be the one to burst the bubble. Do not get me wrong, I am a huge BTC fan and I will support it to the end BUT I am a realistic too. We assume BTC will be the de fact coin and everyone will be converted. WU and the banks are not sitting on their hands, they are investing millions into the development of their own technologies. <Mastercard Send, was launched yesterday to counter Bitcoin>
My prediction would be a maximum of 3 years dominance for Bitcoin and then a complete replacement by a NEW technology.

Mastercard Send is not the same type of technology as bitcoin. It's comparing apples and oranges. Both can be used as payment system but at the fundamental technical core they are so vastly different.  The alts are more of a technical competition to Bitcoin but none of them seems to be catching up with bitcoin thus far.



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May 21, 2015, 10:18:57 AM
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"Assuming no major crisis in bitcoin"...

The delusion in this guy is strong.

I think he's just an optimist. I think bitcoin has a very good chance of being widely used online by then but I'm also a realist so we can only wait and see.
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May 21, 2015, 10:43:50 AM
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"Assuming no major crisis in bitcoin"...

The delusion in this guy is strong.

I think what he says is true, though. If there is no major crisis then why shouldn't retailers accept bitcoin within five years?

"In 5 or 10 years I think every online retailer will accept Bitcoin." - Gavin Andresen

https://youtu.be/iQ2TOFIgvis

Awesome 15 second quote from Gavin during this New York Public Library discussion on May 19, 2015.


I think it's going to bee sooner than that.
More like two to three years from now.

It doesn't make sense to give 3%+ of your sale to any payment processor instead of just paying a few cent.

You're right it doesn't, but in that case why haven't most merchants already jumped on board?

How is the time limit evaluate?  However, more and more retailers accept Bitcoin now and we could charge for items with Bitcoin often, then the business with bitcoin can run well.

It's just a rough guess based on his speculation really. Wishful thinking or hopeful optimism at best so don't take it as a fact.
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May 21, 2015, 11:09:00 AM
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Not accepting Bitcoin in online retail will be a dumb move and there is no excuse as companies like Stripe or Braintree starting to accept it. Even major ecommerce platforms like Shopify accept it. Should be ubiquitous for online retail.

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May 21, 2015, 11:11:27 AM
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bitcoin is not developed. yeah you saw it right. bitcoin is not developed. it is developing. bitcoin is used by may people and getting used my most of the people.in future bitcoin will be seen in many places . bitcoin is gonna turen the future.
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