Bitfury - Mining Lighbulb

[sidehack]

*grumble grumble* I'll have to buy at least one for the museum, at some point.

[notlist3d]

"Have the light come on when you get home!"

switch by the door DONE.

Yea for 40 dollars on cheapest one of those wifi bulbs I find it hard to get past just using a switch.  I mean items like my fan have 4 lightbulbs so 120 dollars for the "cheap" one.  To retrofit a entire house would be very pricy.

I don't understand why people are focusing on the bulbs and not the switches.  I would think a wifi enabled light switch would be a better use of the technology, as it could then control any number of devices and not be tethered to a bulb.  For your fan scenario, it would mean 1 switch instead of 4 bulbs.

Honestly that is a genius plan.  Did not think about that but one switch could do the 120 dollar on "cheap" wifi bulbs.

I can think of two reasons they don't.  One that is most likely they did the math and would rather sell you bulbs at 40 each compared to a single switch.  Other is some might not be confident changing  switch.  I think probley everyone on this board could manage doing it, but I'm sure there are some out there that would use a electrician.

Again I'm guessing the making more money is main reason they don't.

First the lava lamp miner... now wifi switch.  OGNasty what is your next invention?

[OgNasty]

First the lava lamp miner... now wifi switch.  OgNasty what is your next invention?

While these "inventions" are cute, they pale in comparison to the NastyFans Minted Seats in my opinion.

[notlist3d]

First the lava lamp miner... now wifi switch.  OgNasty what is your next invention?

While these "inventions" are cute, they pale in comparison to the NastyFans Minted Seats in my opinion.

I hope one day to add your 5 oz one to my collection - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=826527.0

I just love that it's above normal on ounces.  Both are no doubt great coins

[alh]

First the lava lamp miner... now wifi switch.  OgNasty what is your next invention?

While these "inventions" are cute, they pale in comparison to the NastyFans Minted Seats in my opinion.

Aren't you the guy that did the "special $10 ATX paper clip jumper"?

If so, is there a combo deal?

Maybe you need to work in marketing at BitFury or 21Inc!

[notlist3d]

First the lava lamp miner... now wifi switch.  OgNasty what is your next invention?

While these "inventions" are cute, they pale in comparison to the NastyFans Minted Seats in my opinion.

Aren't you the guy that did the "special $10 ATX paper clip jumper"?

If so, is there a combo deal?

Maybe you need to work in marketing at BitFury or 21Inc!

Nope wish I could take credit for jumpers.  I do always use a paper clip and electric tape on mine though (besides evga's that come with one).

Bitmain made the most used ATX one I would say.    You can get a pack of them on ebay.   Also if you get a cheap psu tester you can use that to keep it on aswell and if you need it you have a psu tester .  

And I love BTC any maker is welcome to send me an offer .   I don't think I would be a fit for 21 Inc though.  I don't share their vision.

[Bicknellski]

First the lava lamp miner... now wifi switch.  OgNasty what is your next invention?

While these "inventions" are cute, they pale in comparison to the NastyFans Minted Seats in my opinion.

What is that you say? NastFans Minted Seats you say?

You deserve a few plugs for the Lava Lamp idea.

[lumeire]

Man, this is so hyped up. When can I pre-order? 

[notlist3d]

Man, this is so hyped up. When can I pre-order? 

I honestly doubt we see it for sale.  I think it was more for fun and to show off being first to do it.

I would be very suprised if Bitfury sales them.  But I hope I'm wrong I really would like one.

[Finksy]

A 2000 calorie diet means a human body consumes an average of 100W power.

Why don't we start incorporating asic chips into HUMANS!

[Ikron]

wait until all the crude lightbulb jokes people make up with this.......

[TheRealSteve]

If the chip is efficient enough and you have four bulbs in each room thats 240w worth of mining

Your bulbs do not emit light?
If they do emit light, what portion of that 60W goes to the lighting solution?  What is the lighting solution?  How much waste energy (read: heat) does the lighting solution + the mining solution produce?  What cooling is required to prevent both the mining and the lighting solution from failing?

LED, for 'white' lighting, is already one of the most efficient forms, and a '60W equivalent' bulb puts out a decent amount of heat; those bulbs aren't primarily heat sinks just because it looks groovy.  Add another 60W in mining power to that, and you most definitely have to cool things actively, if not to keep the mining chip from overheating and throwing out error after error (if not plain dying), then certainly to keep the LED emitter's phosphor from degrading and/or the LED emitter itself from releasing the magic smoke.

Can it be done? Sure.  Does it make sense?  Nah.

[sidehack]

Assuming the bulbs are placed below a large fan. This is not always the case, and running a ceiling fan specifically to cool your light bulb miners adds how much power dissipation to the total?

How much heatsinking and/or airflow is required to keep a 50W device cooled below about 80C? Incandescent light bulbs don't really have that temperature requirement, so can run 100W or more with only ambient air. But what's the added material cost to dissipate 50W passively inside a glass shroud (common on ceiling-fan lighting installations) while maintaining less than 80C internal (chip) temperature?

Are these bulbs gonna run wifi, or have some in-built mains-wiring network interface? What's the added cost (and size) of building wifi or mains-network transceivers for each device? What's the added infrastructure cost of a wifi or mains-network access point for your local network? How are you going to configure all of the individual devices? Will they need another separate central machine to coordinate pool settings and such, or will each one have its own config page to keep track of?

Will it be possible to continue mining even when the light is turned off? By what means do you enable and disable the light without cutting power to the entire bulb? What additional infrastructure (or changes to existing infrastructure) is required to support this?

Considering all that, how is it a better idea (cost-effective, power-efficient, reliable, easier to install, maintain and operate) to build a network interface and additional heatsinking into a dozen independent devices requiring you to run multiple ceiling fans (if that's possible with bulb covers) to cool them, and then rewiring your house or adding additional devices to be able to mine during the 18 hours a day the lights are turned off, than it is to build a compact device with a couple 10W fans and a single ethernet connection that you can tuck in the laundry room and forget about most of the time?

[jimmothy]

I am thinking for heating your room honestly during the winter, the ceiling fan should bring the heat down to you and keep it warm and during warm months you can turn off the mining and use just for light. It could be a very nice especially for a bedroom in winter.

Can you think of a single benefit that comes from combining a light bulb and a miner?

Let's say home miners have two options (both using the same chips):

Option 1: 60W, 200 GH/s lightbulbs for $80 each (0.3 W/gh and $0.4/gh)

Option 2: 400W, 2000 GH/s blade style miner for $500 (0.2 W/gh and $0.25/gh)

In what scenario would it make sense to go with option 1?

[jimmothy]

Can you think of a single benefit that comes from combining a light bulb and a miner?

Let's say home miners have two options (both using the same chips):

Option 1: 60W, 200 GH/s lightbulbs for $80 each (0.3 W/gh and $0.4/gh)

Option 2: 400W, 2000 GH/s blade style miner for $500 (0.2 W/gh and $0.25/gh)

In what scenario would it make sense to go with option 1?

quiet comfortable longterm solomining?

Solomining with cheaper and more efficient hardware is still a better option.

Honestly the spread of heat and no noise seem to be a pretty good positive.

There's no reason a home miner can't be practically dead silent. I replaced the fans on my SP20 and BTCgarden miners and they were so quiet you couldn't here them from more than a few feet away.

One that mines gives heat (and hopefully app controlled) would be pretty neat.

A regular miner already gives off heat and can be remotely controlled. Adding a light bulb doesn't change this.

If your goal is to recycle heat (i.e. save money), then it would definitely make sense to go with the cheaper and more efficient miner (option 2).

[alh]

I don't equate this to the "stick miner" at all. The USB stick miner has never pretended to be anything but that. It wasn't going to be added to anything that wasn't a Bitcoin miner, so there was no attempt to lure people into thinking that mining was going to be "free". Also at the time their biggest competition was GPU's. They beat them handily in just about every category, except the Block Erupter had no after-market once difficulty and more efficient ASIC's crushed the BE100. GPU's could be sold as just that, or turned to another coin (e.g. Litecoin).

I guess it's possible that ASICminer could have chosen to push their technology into unrelated products, but they didn't. I think they realized all the surrounding infrastructure wouldn't be present (e.g. cooling and Internet access) if they added it to a bunch of other devices.

Has anyone on these forums actually seen one of these device live?

[notlist3d]

I don't equate this to the "stick miner" at all. The USB stick miner has never pretended to be anything but that. It wasn't going to be added to anything that wasn't a Bitcoin miner, so there was no attempt to lure people into thinking that mining was going to be "free". Also at the time their biggest competition was GPU's. They beat them handily in just about every category, except the Block Erupter had no after-market once difficulty and more efficient ASIC's crushed the BE100. GPU's could be sold as just that, or turned to another coin (e.g. Litecoin).

I guess it's possible that ASICminer could have chosen to push their technology into unrelated products, but they didn't. I think they realized all the surrounding infrastructure wouldn't be present (e.g. cooling and Internet access) if they added it to a bunch of other devices.

Has anyone on these forums actually seen one of these device live?

All we have seen is those pictures in thread.  I wish bitfury would make a release or more information.  But I doubt they do as I dont think they will want to sell individual's these mining light bulbs.

I really hope someone makes these though.  I just want one to play around with.  Could be fun with multi color have light up different colors for different events. 

[alh]

All we have seen is those pictures in thread.  I wish bitfury would make a release or more information.  But I doubt they do as I dont think they will want to sell individual's these mining light bulbs.

I really hope someone makes these though.  I just want one to play around with.  Could be fun with multi color have light up different colors for different events. 

Maybe the light starts out as RED, and turns GREEN when it starts to make money? 

[notlist3d]

All we have seen is those pictures in thread.  I wish bitfury would make a release or more information.  But I doubt they do as I dont think they will want to sell individual's these mining light bulbs.

I really hope someone makes these though.  I just want one to play around with.  Could be fun with multi color have light up different colors for different events. 

Maybe the light starts out as RED, and turns GREEN when it starts to make money? 

I think they will be a "niche" fun item so sadly I think it would never turn green .

I've been trying to think of things for light bulb to do.  Best one I have is turn a color when a certain BTC address receives money, or when a pool sends out payout.  Some things like shares accepted would be horrible with light.

[notlist3d]

It's coming during 2015!! We can buy one

http://www.coindesk.com/bitfury-light-bulbs-mine-bitcoin/