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May 28, 2015, 10:23:03 PM
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By managing the site, Ulbright would be an accomplice in drug dealing as he both allows it to happen on his own site and knows that illegal activity is occuring. Thus, he would still get jail time, but probably less than he will get now.

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May 28, 2015, 10:35:39 PM
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In that case he would still be permitting an illegal trasaction, but who knows what would had happened
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Last edit: May 28, 2015, 11:08:32 PM by TheButterZone
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_230_of_the_Communications_Decency_Act

AFAIK, Craigslist charges prostitutes in jurisdictions where prostitution is illegal, to post in Erotic Services. And narcotics are freely traded on Craigslist without posting fees. And any number of other victimless and victimful/actual crimes are committed on Craigslist.

I look forward to the victimless "criminal" Craig Newmark spending the rest of his life in prison also in violation of Sec 230. Oh wait, Craigslist only accepts fiat, so he's immune, unlike that filthy libertarian bitcoin bastard, Ross Ulbricht.

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May 28, 2015, 11:02:02 PM
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I believe while he is under the country law they would have found a number of charges for him, if not the same as he currently has. Got me thinking what if he ran the site as normal from international waters on a nice boat away from their laws would he face jail, now that would be one to look into if you wanted to be kingpin. The horrible thing he must be thinking in his cell is he could have walked with millions and just gave the site to someone he trusted like the number 1 seller for all the time he was there and cut a deal ya know. Alls well that ends well, now he has nothing except a friend in prison named big bob.
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May 29, 2015, 08:33:43 AM
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Would Ross Ulbright be facing jail time if he didn't charge ANY fees at all?

Let's say he operated Silk Road as a free service and probably "unmonitored" with a disclaimer that he is not liable for what goes on.

So would he be still facing jail time?

Good point! Now what if he simply had made a decentralized market and left it alone like Satoshi abandoned Bitcoin? Would he be responsible for every drug that is traded there?

That is exactly why I am asking.
If he didn't profit from Silk Road at all, and made it clear that it is a free service that one should use at their own risk and responsibility, then what were they going to charge him with?

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May 29, 2015, 08:35:41 AM
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Would Ross Ulbright be facing jail time if he didn't charge ANY fees at all?

Let's say he operated Silk Road as a free service and probably "unmonitored" with a disclaimer that he is not liable for what goes on.

So would he be still facing jail time?

Funny you mention this because the first version of the bitcoin client even had unused traces of code for running a trading site. Pretty amazing actually.

That's interesting, I haven't heard of that before.
Do you have any links to that?
The code maybe?

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May 29, 2015, 08:55:31 AM
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Would Ross Ulbright be facing jail time if he didn't charge ANY fees at all?

Let's say he operated Silk Road as a free service and probably "unmonitored" with a disclaimer that he is not liable for what goes on.

So would he be still facing jail time?

Funny you mention this because the first version of the bitcoin client even had unused traces of code for running a trading site. Pretty amazing actually.

When you say unused, you mean that the client was coded with an in-build trading site but was never used?
Why?

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May 29, 2015, 08:58:41 AM
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Would Ross Ulbright be facing jail time if he didn't charge ANY fees at all?
He would, just managing such site is punishable by law

I think you missed the part where I said he would have it unmonitored with a disclaimer that he is not liable for anything traded there.
So, basically he does not accept responsibility and everybody that trades there should accept responsibility for their actions.

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May 29, 2015, 09:05:00 AM
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By managing the site, Ulbright would be an accomplice in drug dealing as he both allows it to happen on his own site and knows that illegal activity is occuring. Thus, he would still get jail time, but probably less than he will get now.

It seems to me that many members seem to skip the part where I wrote: the site is unmonitored and a disclaimer is there that Ross takes no responsibility.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_230_of_the_Communications_Decency_Act

AFAIK, Craigslist charges prostitutes in jurisdictions where prostitution is illegal, to post in Erotic Services. And narcotics are freely traded on Craigslist without posting fees. And any number of other victimless and victimful/actual crimes are committed on Craigslist.

I look forward to the victimless "criminal" Craig Newmark spending the rest of his life in prison also in violation of Sec 230. Oh wait, Craigslist only accepts fiat, so he's immune, unlike that filthy libertarian bitcoin bastard, Ross Ulbricht.

Is that true about Craigslist?
Is there really "illegal" listings?
And if there are, why is he not facing charges as well?

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May 29, 2015, 09:08:33 AM
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Well of course he would lol Shocked At least I guess so , he is operating and managing website that sells drugs and weapons etc ... that's against the law , beside i would like to know , they seized all his Bitcoins ? or he was able to keep some hidden ? brain wallet or whatever

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May 29, 2015, 09:29:06 AM
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Well of course he would lol Shocked At least I guess so , he is operating and managing website that sells drugs and weapons etc ... that's against the law , beside i would like to know , they seized all his Bitcoins ? or he was able to keep some hidden ? brain wallet or whatever

I don't know if my posts are invisible to some members, but here it goes again:

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It seems to me that many members seem to skip the part where I wrote: the site is unmonitored and a disclaimer is there that Ross takes no responsibility.

Consider this: A deep web website or even bulleting board that is free and open for everyone to use and is completely unmonitored.
That means that IF you choose to trade there you take responsibility for YOUR OWN ACTIONS.

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May 30, 2015, 02:06:12 AM
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Would Ross Ulbright be facing jail time if he didn't charge ANY fees at all?

Let's say he operated Silk Road as a free service and probably "unmonitored" with a disclaimer that he is not liable for what goes on.

So would he be still facing jail time?

He still could be charged since he arranged a murder order
That said as an operator of a drug site he would have been charged commission or not.

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