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[hilariousandco]

It's very high and kinda bizzare that people keep giving him more money and he's now asking for even more. If he's struggling to pay back 2btc then he's certainly going to have issues with 10+. Something isn't right here.

[Panthers52]

It's very high and kinda bizzare that people keep giving him more money and he's now asking for even more. If he's struggling to pay back 2btc then he's certainly going to have issues with 10+. Something isn't right here.

I don't think anyone has ever tried to collect a bunch of money from various users all at the same time and then run away. Has anyone ever heard of that happening? /s

I think both of the outstanding loans are especially suspicious and something doesn't make sense why he would be trusted with so much money when others aren't trusted with 1/4 as much with similar reputations.

[Muhammed Zakir]

Did you verify any of his stories? You do realise 'death in the family' is usually the first excuse people go to when they're having difficulties paying something back. He also seems to give the family/personal issues line for most of his previous loans. How much does he currently owe you and Marco?

Most of 'em. In case, somehow if he is scam, I can file a case. I have his personal information. Honestly, its not that hard to find his IRL identity. He does not seem like a person who thinks of his privacy to me.

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From the looks of it, he owes MZ 1.04 and marcotheminer.5 although marcotheminer told me that he is owed ~1 BTC, so there might be another private loan.

He owes me 1.1BTC.

I think this is a very high amount for his reputation

Probably.

[gkv9]

I can understand that it is not possible for anyone here to trust me based on my current reputation, but if I would have been suspicious and if I would have to take loans and run away, I could have done that way before...

But I am already repaying, it doesn't make any sense for anyone here to suspect me based on what they see as they don't know actual truth, as MZ said, we have been into private chats which is why anything wasn't shown in public here...

Anyways, MZ and Marco had been my Godfather whenever I needed any help, and I even repaid them some amounts...

I know I took time before, but as MZ already said, was already facing some problems and never expected this would happen...

@hilariousandco,
If you think I am a scammer, please give me 2 days, I will upload the death certificate which doctor gave me after my father's post-mortem...
I do not have any problems if nobody here is interested in helping me out in this situation, as already declared before, I am now completely ready to take it on myself, run my family on my own as I will now go for a real-life job next month...

If you can't help, at least wish me luck to get a secured job so that I will be able to repay everything sooner to those 2 who have already helped me before...

[hilariousandco]

I can understand that it is not possible for anyone here to trust me based on my current reputation, but if I would have been suspicious and if I would have to take loans and run away, I could have done that way before...

But that's not how long cons work. They build trust with smaller loans then try go for the big job. Sure you might not scam for 0.1 or so but 10btc is an entirely different matter, not to mention you have over 2btc curently borrowed. We don't even know if you're going to pay that back yet. Your account is worth around 0.2 so you could easily just abandon it at any point to avoid having to pay anything  back and the liklihood of this happening increases drastically if you got the further 10btc. Why even bother spending 2 years tediously working hard to pay your debts when you could just abandon ship and use one of your alts? You may or may not be a scammer but one thing is for sure is that you're quickly building up massive debts that you are going to struggle greatly to pay back.

But I am already repaying, it doesn't make any sense for anyone here to suspect me based on what they see as they don't know actual truth, as MZ said, we have been into private chats which is why anything wasn't shown in public here...*

You have a history of using similar personal issues as reasons for the loans and these could just be sob stories to get sympathy and they seem to have worked so far so why not continue? I'm not sure what verification MZ has done to verify your stories but perhaps he just believes whatever you say.

I know I took time before, but as MZ already said, was already facing some problems and never expected this would happen

What happens when more unexpected problems arise? More loans?

@hilariousandco,
If you think I am a scammer, please give me 2 days, I will upload the death certificate which doctor gave me after my father's post-mortem...

Uploading a death certifiicate would help corroborate your story by wouldn't prove you're not a scammer. Only time will tell on that front. We dont really know if you're even going to pay back the current money owed and this could be your last ditch attempt to grab what you can before you ditch the account. As I said before even if all what you say is true and you have every intention of paying back all the money you are still going to struggle with the burden of doing so and if signature campaigns get banned then you're screwed and that's why I'm sceptical and think your entire proposals are very bad ideas.

[gkv9]

@hilariousandco,
If you think I am a scammer, please give me 2 days, I will upload the death certificate which doctor gave me after my father's post-mortem...

Uploading a death certifiicate would help corroborate your story by wouldn't prove you're not a scammer. Only time will tell on that front. We dont really know if you're even going to pay back the current money owed and this could be your last ditch attempt to grab what you can before you ditch the account. As I said before even if all what you say is true and you have every intention of paying back all the money you are still going to struggle with the burden of doing so and if signature campaigns get banned then you're screwed and that's why I'm sceptical and think your entire proposals are very bad ideas.

Okay, I can understand your skepticism, your warnings and even your care & concern for me...
As said before, I am not interested in any helps, I will manage it on myself as I now know that it's all my responsibility and I need to take it on my shoulders...
Sorry, I was stressed out due to which I took this decision to go for this... But now I understand that some decisions in hurry might prove to be the biggest mistake ever committed...

And yes, about the certificate, I will upload them in 2 days as promised to prove that neither am I a scammer, nor am I speaking lies...

[gkv9]

Follow standard procedure on bitcointalk.

Please post a picture of the corpse with a piece of paper with your username and date on it.

After this I will consider providing towards the loan.

We did not take pictures of the corpse (dead body) during that day...
But I am uploading my father's death certificate that the doctor gave me (have my username and today's date on it), the receipt that I got from crematorium & my dad's photo that we currently have at home for grief...

Death Certificate by Doctor:

(with flash)



(without flash)



Crematorium Receipt: (Language is Gujarati so maybe a problem for those who don't understand it)



Dad's photo:



The main death certificate that I will get from Panchayat Bhawan is going to take some time, after 2nd September, 2015, I will be able to move ahead for the main death certificate as I am currently busy in ritual procedures remaining till that date...

[gkv9]

Guys, I went to the Panchayat Bhawan yesterday, they asked for the FIR (Punchnama) copy so we went to Police Station for the same...

Gave that copy to them, they said that they have registered my father's death at that time and they will handover the death certificate to me in 3 - 5 days... I have taken their number and as soon as I get the death certificate, I will upload it here for all of you to see that I am not telling any lie here...

Whether or not may I get any help, I am not at all interested in being called a scammer at any cost...
So please, don't judge people before knowing the whole thing...

[hilariousandco]

You may be telling the truth about your father but that doesn't mean to say you would have paid the whole amount back if you had've got it. You seem to be struggling with the 2 you currently have borrowed so 12 would have been a mammoth task and that's assuming signature campaigns even last a couple of years.

[gkv9]

You may be telling the truth about your father but that doesn't mean to say you would have paid the whole amount back if you had've got it. You seem to be struggling with the 2 you currently have borrowed so 12 would have been a mammoth task and that's assuming signature campaigns even last a couple of years.

Can understand, and which is why I even thanked you for stopping me before I take a step which might prove to be the biggest mistake of mine...
Still I think I can repay, but no worries if anyone not interested in helping...
I just wanted to prove my innocence as I was being put into the balustrade for no reason, just wanted to prove that I ain't a scammer, will upload the main death certificate of my dad as soon as I get it from the Panchayat Bhawan...

[hilariousandco]

You may have every intention to pay but you will have struggled. I doubt you're earning anywhere near 0.5btc currently so imagine how much more you would have had to post. Would you have been able to pay if you were no longer able to earn from signature campaigns? Also, if your fathers funeral etc has been paid for what do you need the money for?

[gkv9]

You may have every intention to pay but you will have struggled. I doubt you're earning anywhere near 0.5btc currently so imagine how much more you would have had to post. Would you have been able to pay if you were no longer able to earn from signature campaigns? Also, if your fathers funeral etc has been paid for what do you need the money for?

I do earn ~0.4 BTC a month which is why I asked everyone here to let me start repaying after one month so that I may be able to have some BTC on hands for the interest repayment purpose...

I might not, and this answer's based on the truth that I ain't doing any jobs, I am jobless currently...
But of course, if I might have been doing job, I could repay without signature campaigns...
I got a proposal yesterday from a friend online, for a writing job and he has AdSense installed in his site, so whatever revenue gets generated, 60% will be of him and 40% will be mine...
My father's funeral has been paid for, but it wasn't me who paid everything... They were my friends who helped me out in that situation, but I don't want debts of anyone which is why I need this to repay them currently... And I know that nobody needs BTC10 for any funeral procedures anywhere in the world, I also mentioned somewhere here that I want to secure a few months so that I may get a real-life job in a month or two and use those funds too to repay here...

I will get death certificate in 2 - 3 days, I will then upload it here for everyone who doubts that I am going to run away and won't repay...

[Vod]

My father's funeral has been paid for, but it wasn't me who paid everything... They were my friends who helped me out in that situation, but I don't want debts of anyone which is why I need this to repay them currently...

Why do you feel a bitcoin debt is not a debt?  That is a big red flag to anyone that would consider loaning to you.

Don't you think it's better for friends and family to shoulder the debt of your father's death instead of complete strangers? 

[gkv9]

My father's funeral has been paid for, but it wasn't me who paid everything... They were my friends who helped me out in that situation, but I don't want debts of anyone which is why I need this to repay them currently...

Why do you feel a bitcoin debt is not a debt?  That is a big red flag to anyone that would consider loaning to you.

Don't you think it's better for friends and family to shoulder the debt of your father's death instead of complete strangers? 

Expected your reply though... And happy for your concern too...
Anyways, just wanted to say that all I wanted is to prove myself innocent in this case as people were taking me in wrong means, they were thinking that I am trying to scam everyone which is why I uploaded some of the most important and private documents here...

Else, I already said this before that I am not interested in any help from here and I will manage everything myself... Just waiting for the death certificate, I will upload it here and lock the thread...

And I never meant that bitcoin debt ain't a debt by saying what I said...