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May 31, 2015, 12:53:33 PM
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At the moment it may seem to suck wins but long term I think it will lose this war.
At present, their enemies are divided, Iran, Syria, America, Russia, Iraq and others but it will not last long.
When all understand the gravity of the situation and finally achieve real agreement on military cooperation, ISIS will have no chance alone against all.
Americans have underestimated the danger of Isis, as previously underestimated the threat from Saddam and Osama, but I think they now understand the seriousness of the situation.
Each additional day of ISIS terror is a disaster for the region and the entire civilized world.

Ofcourse they will lose. When they will hit interests of China and Russia, will fail big. No way they can win them.

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May 31, 2015, 02:01:31 PM
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us created terrorist to protect himself now its vice versa...

The terrorists seem well-ensconced in their twin nerve centers for Iraq and Syria, Mosul and Raqqa, respectively, and do not appear threatened in Fallujah, only miles from Baghdad.  This despite the allied air campaign designed, in President Obama’s words, to “degrade and ultimately destroy” the group.

Obama can only talk about peace he has no guts like bush..can can only do conspiracy and kill hidden dead terrorist..

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May 31, 2015, 02:11:55 PM
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The terrorists seem well-ensconced in their twin nerve centers for Iraq and Syria, Mosul and Raqqa, respectively, and do not appear threatened in Fallujah, only miles from Baghdad.  This despite the allied air campaign designed, in President Obama’s words, to “degrade and ultimately destroy” the group.

Airstrikes alone will not defeat the ISIS. If the NATO is serious about destroying the ISIS, then it should bring in the infantry and the battle tanks. For every 10 terrorists killed in the US-led airstrikes against the ISIS, 50 more joins them after crossing the Turkish-Syrian border. ISIS has also stepped up the recruitment of local Sunni Arabs.
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May 31, 2015, 02:21:21 PM
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Airstrikes alone will not defeat the ISIS. If the NATO is serious about destroying the ISIS, then it should bring in the infantry and the battle tanks. For every 10 terrorists killed in the US-led airstrikes against the ISIS, 50 more joins them after crossing the Turkish-Syrian border. ISIS has also stepped up the recruitment of local Sunni Arabs.

mutiny is every where man..depressed help depressed ,they find it their mirror showing their fate....
nothing can stop isis,,they are bound to live and they will...




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May 31, 2015, 02:44:07 PM
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As sad as it is ISIS is unstoppable now, however much they say the United States, the country of freedom , gold, diamonds and oil...
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June 14, 2015, 04:37:04 AM
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They are winning because they have the more compelling narrative. We don't like to admit it, but there is a huge movement toward Islam. We think we can shoot a powerful idea to death, but the people we are fighting are more committed than we are, and actually believe in the morality of what they are doing. By comparison the rest of the world has no consistent position or policy. Those who know war could see this coming when we announced we were going to "liberate" Iraq.
Commitment. These monsters are committed to their cause of "Purification". They believe in what they do as a necessary evil, a noble cause for which they have been and are and will die for. This gives them support, it's not hard to believe the turn of events, like RodeoX rightly pointed out.
I'm not sure how things are gonna play out for Iraq, but one thing is almost certain, these orthodox delusional people will die for their cause, and that has immense impact on the situation.

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June 14, 2015, 04:52:21 AM
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As sad as it is ISIS is unstoppable now, however much they say the United States, the country of freedom , gold, diamonds and oil...

Well, maybe its unstoppable because America just don't want to stop it? They air strikes against ISIS is mere declarative. USA just can stop supporting Syrian opposition and Assad can do the rest of the work himself. ISIS will be finished.

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June 14, 2015, 04:56:32 AM
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Well, maybe its unstoppable because America just don't want to stop it? They air strikes against ISIS is mere declarative. USA just can stop supporting Syrian opposition and Assad can do the rest of the work himself. ISIS will be finished.

A few token strikes here and there will not do any harm to the ISIS. If the Americans had any intention of defeating the ISIS, then they should have stopped harassing Assad's forces. Along with the Kurdish Peshmerga, the Syrian army is the only force which is capable of defeating the ISIS. However, it seems that for the Americans, Assad is a bigger threat when compared to the ISIS.
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June 14, 2015, 05:01:07 AM
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Well, maybe its unstoppable because America just don't want to stop it? They air strikes against ISIS is mere declarative. USA just can stop supporting Syrian opposition and Assad can do the rest of the work himself. ISIS will be finished.

A few token strikes here and there will not do any harm to the ISIS. If the Americans had any intention of defeating the ISIS, then they should have stopped harassing Assad's forces. Along with the Kurdish Peshmerga, the Syrian army is the only force which is capable of defeating the ISIS. However, it seems that for the Americans, Assad is a bigger threat when compared to the ISIS.

totally agree

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June 15, 2015, 11:56:53 AM
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Many of their members will dies because of their movement, that is for sure.

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June 15, 2015, 12:10:54 PM
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Many of their members will dies because of their movement, that is for sure.

it is like digging your own grave, sad to see that these people foolish actions having consequences throughout the world.
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June 15, 2015, 01:17:25 PM
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Many of their members will dies because of their movement, that is for sure.

it is like digging your own grave, sad to see that these people foolish actions having consequences throughout the world.

Yeah. I love watching liveleak and seeing the videos of dead ISIS with their heads ripped open by shrapnel, missing limbs and guts spilled out.
These guys are monsters and will die looking like monsters.

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June 15, 2015, 01:42:12 PM
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The terrorists seem well-ensconced in their twin nerve centers for Iraq and Syria, Mosul and Raqqa, respectively, and do not appear threatened in Fallujah, only miles from Baghdad.  This despite the allied air campaign designed, in President Obama’s words, to “degrade and ultimately destroy” the group.

Airstrikes alone will not defeat the ISIS. If the NATO is serious about destroying the ISIS, then it should bring in the infantry and the battle tanks. For every 10 terrorists killed in the US-led airstrikes against the ISIS, 50 more joins them after crossing the Turkish-Syrian border. ISIS has also stepped up the recruitment of local Sunni Arabs.

I think this will only stop when everything comes under ISIS in Iraq. Only then it will be affordable for US or NATO to be at War with ISIS. Even Russia will be eying the opportunity to let its army go into the war.
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June 15, 2015, 02:54:58 PM
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I think this will only stop when everything comes under ISIS in Iraq. Only then it will be affordable for US or NATO to be at War with ISIS. Even Russia will be eying the opportunity to let its army go into the war.

That will be a horrible strategy against the ISIS. Imagine what would happen if they conquer the whole of Iraq and Syria. All the minorities who are living there (Yazidis, Kurds, Assyrians, Mandeans.etc) will be exterminated. All the Shiite shrines will be destroyed, along with the other non-Muslim places of worship. And the ISIS will be having a potential recruitment pool of some 50 million people, which will make them invincible against a normal ground offensive. IMO, the only chance to defeat the ISIS is to attack them right NOW.
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June 15, 2015, 04:23:18 PM
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The terrorists seem well-ensconced in their twin nerve centers for Iraq and Syria, Mosul and Raqqa, respectively, and do not appear threatened in Fallujah, only miles from Baghdad.  This despite the allied air campaign designed, in President Obama’s words, to “degrade and ultimately destroy” the group.

Airstrikes alone will not defeat the ISIS. If the NATO is serious about destroying the ISIS, then it should bring in the infantry and the battle tanks. For every 10 terrorists killed in the US-led airstrikes against the ISIS, 50 more joins them after crossing the Turkish-Syrian border. ISIS has also stepped up the recruitment of local Sunni Arabs.

I think this will only stop when everything comes under ISIS in Iraq. Only then it will be affordable for US or NATO to be at War with ISIS. Even Russia will be eying the opportunity to let its army go into the war.

I don't think that a good idea. Lots of people will die, there will be more refugees witch is already a problem for EU. The quickest way is to stop ISIS now, but every body seems busy with something else. And I don't think that Russia will intervene, they know it's costly so they will stay out of it military wise.
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June 15, 2015, 04:42:53 PM
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The terrorists seem well-ensconced in their twin nerve centers for Iraq and Syria, Mosul and Raqqa, respectively, and do not appear threatened in Fallujah, only miles from Baghdad.  This despite the allied air campaign designed, in President Obama’s words, to “degrade and ultimately destroy” the group.

Airstrikes alone will not defeat the ISIS. If the NATO is serious about destroying the ISIS, then it should bring in the infantry and the battle tanks. For every 10 terrorists killed in the US-led airstrikes against the ISIS, 50 more joins them after crossing the Turkish-Syrian border. ISIS has also stepped up the recruitment of local Sunni Arabs.
That is correct, against ISIS we need ground forces. Airstrikes alone is not enough. USA and Obama created this abomination, their meddling in the internal affairs of the middle eastern countries caused shift of the balance and brought extremist to power. All because of the power play and greed for oil and spoils of war and then contracts made for reconstruction of destroyed cities... So now USA should finish this, once and for all.
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June 15, 2015, 04:49:24 PM
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Answer seems obvious.

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June 17, 2015, 03:59:05 PM
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Many of their members will dies because of their movement, that is for sure.

it is like digging your own grave, sad to see that these people foolish actions having consequences throughout the world.

Yeah. I love watching liveleak and seeing the videos of dead ISIS with their heads ripped open by shrapnel, missing limbs and guts spilled out.
These guys are monsters and will die looking like monsters.

I don't know how they will die. But we should all just pray that they should not become like Taliban and start ruling over Iraq for years. Because if that happens, then there will be more terrorist groups formed.
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June 17, 2015, 04:32:02 PM
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The terrorists seem well-ensconced in their twin nerve centers for Iraq and Syria, Mosul and Raqqa, respectively, and do not appear threatened in Fallujah, only miles from Baghdad.  This despite the allied air campaign designed, in President Obama’s words, to “degrade and ultimately destroy” the group.

Airstrikes alone will not defeat the ISIS. If the NATO is serious about destroying the ISIS, then it should bring in the infantry and the battle tanks. For every 10 terrorists killed in the US-led airstrikes against the ISIS, 50 more joins them after crossing the Turkish-Syrian border. ISIS has also stepped up the recruitment of local Sunni Arabs.
That is correct, against ISIS we need ground forces. Airstrikes alone is not enough. USA and Obama created this abomination, their meddling in the internal affairs of the middle eastern countries caused shift of the balance and brought extremist to power. All because of the power play and greed for oil and spoils of war and then contracts made for reconstruction of destroyed cities... So now USA should finish this, once and for all.
The terrorists seem well-ensconced in their twin nerve centers for Iraq and Syria, Mosul and Raqqa, respectively, and do not appear threatened in Fallujah, only miles from Baghdad.  This despite the allied air campaign designed, in President Obama’s words, to “degrade and ultimately destroy” the group.

Airstrikes alone will not defeat the ISIS. If the NATO is serious about destroying the ISIS, then it should bring in the infantry and the battle tanks. For every 10 terrorists killed in the US-led airstrikes against the ISIS, 50 more joins them after crossing the Turkish-Syrian border. ISIS has also stepped up the recruitment of local Sunni Arabs.
That is correct, against ISIS we need ground forces. Airstrikes alone is not enough. USA and Obama created this abomination, their meddling in the internal affairs of the middle eastern countries caused shift of the balance and brought extremist to power. All because of the power play and greed for oil and spoils of war and then contracts made for reconstruction of destroyed cities... So now USA should finish this, once and for all.

Do not know whether that will be a good idea to send ground forces. The US Army are still returning back after a decade long deployment in Afghanistan. Sending them back again to Iraq can backfire in a big way.
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June 17, 2015, 04:45:31 PM
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That is correct, against ISIS we need ground forces. Airstrikes alone is not enough. USA and Obama created this abomination, their meddling in the internal affairs of the middle eastern countries caused shift of the balance and brought extremist to power. All because of the power play and greed for oil and spoils of war and then contracts made for reconstruction of destroyed cities... So now USA should finish this, once and for all.

The United States toppled the secular Saddam Hussein regime, and installed a puppet government, which was biased towards the Shiite Arabs. This in turn resulted in discrimination against the Sunni Arabs and the Kurds. The Sunnis had enough, and they allied with the most powerful force which was fighting against the puppet government. Unfortunately, this "most powerful force" turned out to be the ISIS.
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