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BERLIN IS WASHINGTON’S VASSAL UNTIL 2099?By gluba | Posted January 16, 2009 | New York, New York 106 Ex-head of MAD reveals shocking details of the 1949 US-German secret treatyTop intelligence officers rarely reveal secret strings, pulling the nation's political mechanism. Publication of a book like The German card. The obscure game of secret services, authored by Gerd-Helmut Komossa (Gerd-Helmut Komossa. DIE DEUTSCHE KARTE. Das verdeckte Spiel der geheimen Dienste. Ares-Verlag, Graz 2007. - 230 S.), is an exceptional occurrence. Raising very sensitive issues, the author appeals to the core of German identity that had been deliberately suppressed for decades by the United States and its allies. The book is focused on contradictions between the United States and Germany, sometimes very strong but not supposed to be discussed in public. It was published in Austria, and its distribution in Germany may encounter certain difficulties today. Still, the very fact of its appearance indicates that the German intelligence community is increasingly dissatisfied with the role of a vassal of the United States (the definition applied to Europe by Zbigniew Brzezinski), imposed on Western Germany after World War II. Gerd-Helmut Komossa reveals the uncomfortable truth about the post-war conditions, dictated by the US and its allies. The state treaty, dated May 21, 1949 and classified by BND as top secret, suggests restrictions of state sovereignty of the Federal Republic of Germany, introduced for a period until 2099. These restrictions include the provision that the winning coalition exercise complete control over Germany's mass media and communications; that every Federal Chancellor is to sign the so-called Chancellor Act; that the gold reserve of Germany is kept under arrest. In fact, all the German Chancellors, including the incumbent Chancellor Angela Merkel, pay their first foreign visit necessarily to the United States. The whole spectrum of German political parties is supervised by a special Washington-based controlling body, while local US-licensed media serve as a more sophisticated means of brainwashing than the Nazi propagandist machine. Meanwhile, Germany's territory is still occupied by US troops. This astonishing picture is not a fancy concoction of a political leftist. It is drawn by a military man whose mind has accumulated the experience of several crucial stages of development of the European civilization and Germany in particular. Gen. (Ret.) Gerd-Helmut Komossa took part in World War II and later in the Cold War. Possessing huge amounts of information, he analyzes the existing mechanisms of global policy with strong criticism. Joining the Wehrmacht in 1943 as a volunteer, Komossa served at the Eastern front. Between May 1945 and April 1949, he was a prisoner of war. In the USSR, he got acquainted with many Russians who appeared to be quite different from the image imposed by the official Nazi propaganda. Since 1956, he served in the German Bundeswehr, re-established under certain conditions. The abovementioned secret treaty admitted that the German sovereignty is sufficient for the right to build up military forces. According to the Constitution, the troops of the Federal Republic of Germany are carrying put exceptionally defensive functions. However, the Western coalition was pursuing different goals. It needed an army in new uniforms but with the same skills as the Nazi soldiers, perfectly fighting on land, on sea and in the air, and irrecusably abiding orders. Such a type of soldier was essential not only for the occasion of possible military collision with the Soviet bloc but also for fulfilling global missions. The coalition required at least 500,000 German soldiers. In addition, the newly-built army was supposed to purchase weapons and materiel solely from the United States. During the last two decades, Washington has been trying to force Germany into military partnership in globalistic control. However, the massive effort to get Germany involved in US operations in Somali and Bosnia, as well as in campaigns in Serbia, Iraq and Afghanistan, has brought about a reverse result, sparking a shift in approach in German strategic circles. The implicit discontent with American policy and essential difference in views on the role of the German people in current history eventually reached a critical dimension. Since mid-1990s, the attitude of many German military to the United States, and significantly also towards NATO, has essentially changed. Though most of the German officers were not originally inclined against America, a lot of them being educated in the United States, they are now experiencing disappointment and even disgust with Washington's policies. These officers realize that the hegemonistic policy is destined for destruction of socioeconomic systems of particular nations and whole regions, while the so-called order Washington is trying to impose is just a synonym for chaos. Gerd-Helmut Komossa, in his former capacity of MAD (Military Counterintelligence) Director, was frequently called "a soldier with political thinking". Today, he openly denounces the Bundeswehr's involvement in foreign interventions, referring to the army's constitutional duties. Meanwhile, Washington urges Germans to go fighting. Conceding to the pressure, Berlin deployed a contingent of troops to Afghanistan. But even this was not sufficient for NATO bosses. Recently, NATO General Secretary Jaap de Hoop Scheffer accused the Bundeswehr of idleness in military operations in the region, and insisted that Germany "increase flexibility" and expand its military mission to the southern regions of Afghanistan. In his book, Komossa inquires whether the state of affairs when young Germans are recruited in the national army for fulfilling overseas goals for other nations, could be acceptable. The map of operations, supposed to involve German troops, far exceeds the European continent, and has nothing to do with German national interests. "Do Germans expect this from the Bundeswehr? Would they like their soldiers to be called assassins again?" he asks. However, the United States and its allies don't care much for moral problems. As the secret treaty is valid until 2099, Germans are supposed to go and fight where they are told to. The German audience will require certain time to digest the shocking information disclosed by General Komossa. But eventually, the nation with a great cultural and historical tradition will hardly agree to continue tolerating the American loop on its throat for decades more. The publication of Komossa's "German Card" is one more proof of the world's transformation into a multipolar system. It indicates that Germany is likely to achieve complete sovereignty without waiting for eighty years. http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-183232
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May 31, 2015, 12:54:40 AM |
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BERLIN IS WASHINGTON’S VASSAL UNTIL 2099?By gluba | Posted January 16, 2009 | New York, New York 106 Ex-head of MAD reveals shocking details of the 1949 US-German secret treatyTop intelligence officers rarely reveal secret strings, pulling the nation's political mechanism. Publication of a book like The German card. The obscure game of secret services, authored by Gerd-Helmut Komossa (Gerd-Helmut Komossa. DIE DEUTSCHE KARTE. Das verdeckte Spiel der geheimen Dienste. Ares-Verlag, Graz 2007. - 230 S.), is an exceptional occurrence. Raising very sensitive issues, the author appeals to the core of German identity that had been deliberately suppressed for decades by the United States and its allies. The book is focused on contradictions between the United States and Germany, sometimes very strong but not supposed to be discussed in public. It was published in Austria, and its distribution in Germany may encounter certain difficulties today. Still, the very fact of its appearance indicates that the German intelligence community is increasingly dissatisfied with the role of a vassal of the United States (the definition applied to Europe by Zbigniew Brzezinski), imposed on Western Germany after World War II. Gerd-Helmut Komossa reveals the uncomfortable truth about the post-war conditions, dictated by the US and its allies. The state treaty, dated May 21, 1949 and classified by BND as top secret, suggests restrictions of state sovereignty of the Federal Republic of Germany, introduced for a period until 2099. These restrictions include the provision that the winning coalition exercise complete control over Germany's mass media and communications; that every Federal Chancellor is to sign the so-called Chancellor Act; that the gold reserve of Germany is kept under arrest. In fact, all the German Chancellors, including the incumbent Chancellor Angela Merkel, pay their first foreign visit necessarily to the United States. The whole spectrum of German political parties is supervised by a special Washington-based controlling body, while local US-licensed media serve as a more sophisticated means of brainwashing than the Nazi propagandist machine. Meanwhile, Germany's territory is still occupied by US troops. This astonishing picture is not a fancy concoction of a political leftist. It is drawn by a military man whose mind has accumulated the experience of several crucial stages of development of the European civilization and Germany in particular. Gen. (Ret.) Gerd-Helmut Komossa took part in World War II and later in the Cold War. Possessing huge amounts of information, he analyzes the existing mechanisms of global policy with strong criticism. Joining the Wehrmacht in 1943 as a volunteer, Komossa served at the Eastern front. Between May 1945 and April 1949, he was a prisoner of war. In the USSR, he got acquainted with many Russians who appeared to be quite different from the image imposed by the official Nazi propaganda. Since 1956, he served in the German Bundeswehr, re-established under certain conditions. ... http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-183232 It would be interesting if this is true. I hypothesized that ' there was more to the Marshal plan' than is commonly communicated and said so on this forum some years ago IIRC. I generated and continue to hold open this hypothesis because it has a remarkable degree of explanatory power over various observations. One of which is why we happen to control 'Germany's gold and the Germans seem to have very limited success in getting it back and their leadership quickly lose interest in trying. A correlated to this hypothesis is that the same basic 'agreement' with Japan. I've never seen any response but 'how high' when we tell them to jump.
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May 31, 2015, 12:55:18 AM Last edit: May 31, 2015, 01:24:02 AM by Balthazar |
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It would be interesting if this is true.
DDR was a real state with all attributes of sovereignty i.e. powerful army (second european army after USSR in terms of combat capability), real constitution, functioning parliament and government. Unlike DDR, the BND is not even a state, it has neither army nor government. It even has no constitution and uses so-called "grundgesetz" since 1949, which isn't approved by the people. And even worse, it's officially registered as NGO, Merkel is CEO while citizens are employees. There is no secret, you can check this in any catalogue. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lyOjeuIgYohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esGmJU4EDUg
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May 31, 2015, 01:23:43 AM |
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It would be interesting if this is true.
DDR was a real state with all attributes of sovereignty i.e. powerful army (second european army after USSR in terms of combat capability), real constitution, functioning parliament and government. Unlike DDR, BND is not even a state, it has no neither army nor government. It even has no constitution and uses so-called grundgesetz since 1945, which isn't approved by the people. And even worse, it's officially registered as NGO, Merkel is CEO while citizens are employees. There is no secret, you can check this in any catalogue. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lyOjeuIgYohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esGmJU4EDUgI won't deny that America exercised EXTRAORDINARY influence over West Germany after WW2 but East Germany was just as much a puppet state for the Russians as the West was for America. Most of its leaders from Wilhelm Pieck to Walter Ulbricht and Erich Honecker were actively involved with Soviet intelligence, even living in Russia for several years. Also the fall of the Berlin Wall indicates most East Germans didn't have much love for their supposedly sovereign government as it is.
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May 31, 2015, 01:25:02 AM Last edit: May 31, 2015, 01:48:14 AM by Balthazar |
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but East Germany was just as much a puppet state for the Russians as the West was for America.
At least it was a state, not NGO with unapproved grundgesetz instead of constitution. Also the fall of the Berlin Wall indicates most East Germans didn't have much love for their supposedly sovereign government as it is.
Maybe, but I'd suggest you to talk with some people who have lost the work when the most of industries in former eastern germany were closed. In reality, some things are a bit different from the newspapers narrative.
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May 31, 2015, 01:32:33 AM |
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Kann die „Kanzlerakte“ ignoriert werden? – Ja, sie kann und sie muss! FEBRUAR 12, 2015 Von Peter Haisenko „Kanzlerakte“ – was ist das? Kurz gefasst: Einen Knebelvertrag, der deutsche Regierungschefs nach obligatorischer Unterschrift unter die Befehlsgewalt der US-Regierung stellt. In der breiten Öffentlichkeit war und ist davon nie die Rede. Egon Bahr indes hat unzweideutig bestätigt, dass es sie gibt, die Kanzlerakte. Nehmen wir den SPD-Politiker als vertrauenswürdigen Zeugen und gehen davon aus, dass dieses perfide Papier tatsächlich existiert. Ist ein „Vertrag“, der den Bundeskanzler/die Bundeskanzlerin quasi zeitgleich mit dem Amtseid unter amerikanisches Kuratell stellt, nicht sittenwidrig? Und kann ein derartig sittenwidriger „Vertrag“ nicht einfach ignoriert werden? Die „Transatlantiker“ beherrschen unsere Medien und man muss sich immer wieder wundern, dass auch unsere Regierung Entscheidungen trifft, die nur den Interessen der USA dienen und Deutschland/Europa beschädigen. Sind es nun die Transatlantiker, die unsere Regierung falsch, einseitig – also im Sinn der USA – beraten und so die zuweilen nicht nachvollziehbaren Züge deutscher Politik herstellen? Oder liegt es an der Kanzlerakte, die Frau Merkel zum Handeln gegen deutsche Interessen zwingt? Im Ergebnis macht das keinen Unterschied, moralisch gesehen schon. ..... https://marbec14.wordpress.com/2015/02/28/kann-die-kanzlerakte-ignoriert-werden-ja-sie-kann-und-sie-muss-februar-12-2015/
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May 31, 2015, 01:38:14 AM |
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With Merkel and other German politicians being BLACKMAILED by the NSA of the United States, it is no wonder their personal political survival overrides the interests of the German people and the German economy. BLACKMAIL. inter alia, is one of the US tools to coerce US allies and foes to submit to US Global Tyranny. “German Politicians are US Puppets”. German Journalists are Urged to Bias their Writings in Favor of the US http://blog.chinadaily.com.cn/thread-1234401-1-1.html
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May 31, 2015, 01:39:31 AM Last edit: May 31, 2015, 01:52:06 AM by Balthazar |
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Kann die „Kanzlerakte“ ignoriert werden? – Ja, sie kann und sie muss! FEBRUAR 12, 2015 Von Peter Haisenko „Kanzlerakte“ – was ist das? Kurz gefasst: Einen Knebelvertrag, der deutsche Regierungschefs nach obligatorischer Unterschrift unter die Befehlsgewalt der US-Regierung stellt. In der breiten Öffentlichkeit war und ist davon nie die Rede. Egon Bahr indes hat unzweideutig bestätigt, dass es sie gibt, die Kanzlerakte. Nehmen wir den SPD-Politiker als vertrauenswürdigen Zeugen und gehen davon aus, dass dieses perfide Papier tatsächlich existiert. Ist ein „Vertrag“, der den Bundeskanzler/die Bundeskanzlerin quasi zeitgleich mit dem Amtseid unter amerikanisches Kuratell stellt, nicht sittenwidrig? Und kann ein derartig sittenwidriger „Vertrag“ nicht einfach ignoriert werden? Die „Transatlantiker“ beherrschen unsere Medien und man muss sich immer wieder wundern, dass auch unsere Regierung Entscheidungen trifft, die nur den Interessen der USA dienen und Deutschland/Europa beschädigen. Sind es nun die Transatlantiker, die unsere Regierung falsch, einseitig – also im Sinn der USA – beraten und so die zuweilen nicht nachvollziehbaren Züge deutscher Politik herstellen? Oder liegt es an der Kanzlerakte, die Frau Merkel zum Handeln gegen deutsche Interessen zwingt? Im Ergebnis macht das keinen Unterschied, moralisch gesehen schon. ..... https://marbec14.wordpress.com/2015/02/28/kann-die-kanzlerakte-ignoriert-werden-ja-sie-kann-und-sie-muss-februar-12-2015/ There is not so much people who are able to understand deutsche sprache.
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Yeah Balthazar, they can easily translate the German text there at the original link for that post. Which is a great read BTW, especially regarding German lapdog media. Good luck, g
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May 31, 2015, 01:52:13 AM Last edit: May 31, 2015, 03:08:04 AM by Balthazar |
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“German Politicians are US Puppets”.
Some politicians in DDR were puppets. Politicians of BND aren't puppets, they're NGO employees. There is a difference, because NGO is owned by some physical person or legal entity while state is owned by the people. As the result, puppet is able to get rid of the external control eventually, while members of NGO staff have no such opportunity. Even in the theory. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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May 31, 2015, 03:16:58 AM |
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“German Politicians are US Puppets”.
Some politicians in DDR were puppets. Politicians of BND aren't puppets, they're NGO employees. There is a difference, because NGO is owned by some physical person or legal entity while state is owned by the people. As the result, puppet is able to get rid of the external control eventually, while members of NGO staff have no such opportunity. Even in the theory. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) So why wasn't the US able to force Germany in joining the coalition in Iraq in 2003 if it is owned by America as a corporation?
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The former East Germany (Deutsche Demokratische Republik or DDR) was a powerful, sovereign state with a sizable army and lots of influence over the world. The CIA operations destroyed East Germany, ultimately re-uniting it with West Germany. The DDR lost its sovereignty and influence, when it merged with the FRG to form the unified German vassal state.
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with a sizable army and lots of influence over the world.
The Nationale Volksarmee (NVA) was the largest military organisation in East Germany. It was formed in 1956 from the Kasernierte Volkspolizei (Barracked People's Police), the military units of the regular police (Volkspolizei), when East Germany joined the Warsaw Pact. From its creation, it was controlled by the Ministry of National Defence (East Germany). It was an all volunteer force until an eighteen-month conscription period was introduced in 1962. It was considered one of the most professional and best prepared military forces in the world. (c) wikipedia
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The CIA operations destroyed East Germany
Of course it is all the CIA's fault, not the lack of a consumer economy, overspending on defense nor the Stasi keeping extensive files on most citizens and throwing them in political prison naturally. We also can't forget all those West Berliners building makeshift balloons to escape INTO East Berlin ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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June 01, 2015, 02:39:37 PM |
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The former East Germany (Deutsche Demokratische Republik or DDR) was a powerful, sovereign state with a sizable army and lots of influence over the world. The CIA operations destroyed East Germany, ultimately re-uniting it with West Germany. The DDR lost its sovereignty and influence, when it merged with the FRG to form the unified German vassal state.
Oh wow, You really made my day Surly every one remembers influential politics from East Germany for example... a... and there was this guy... e... and then that other one who made that... But jokes aside, lets compare motor companies that are influential and important in today's German economy: Audi - West Volkswagen - West BMW - West Mercedes - West Noticed a trend here?
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But jokes aside, lets compare motor companies that are influential and important in today's German economy: Audi - West Volkswagen - West BMW - West Mercedes - West Noticed a trend here?
Both the GDR and the FRG had their own strong points. Automobile industry was one of the strong points of the FRG, while healthcare, manufacturing, military, mining, agriculture, and heavy machinery were the specializations of the GDR.
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But jokes aside, lets compare motor companies that are influential and important in today's German economy: Audi - West Volkswagen - West BMW - West Mercedes - West Noticed a trend here?
Both the GDR and the FRG had their own strong points. Automobile industry was one of the strong points of the FRG, while healthcare, manufacturing, military, mining, agriculture, and heavy machinery were the specializations of the GDR. Almost every communist/paranoid government is going for military and heavy machinery but that doesn't proof that it had strong economic. http://fortune.com/2014/11/09/germany-east-west-economy/And if You really want to know how wonderfull East Germany was speak to Germans that actually lived there, that where trying to escape to the West.
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And if You really want to know how wonderfull East Germany was speak to Germans that actually lived there, that where trying to escape to the West.
I have checked the election results from the East German states. Very few of the people there support Angela Merkel's pro-American Party. On the other hand, the pro-Russian Die Linke usually gets 25% to 30% of the votes there. Now you will be very surprised to learn that the Die Linke is simply a refurbished version of the Sozialistische Einheitspartei Deutschlands (the East German Communist Party). ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F6%2F61%2FBundestag_2009_Linke.svg%2F523px-Bundestag_2009_Linke.svg.png&t=665&c=HNmSzuM9yzWoHA)
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At any rate; Germany is an occupied country and has been for 70 years. As such it obviously has limited independence and certainly no independent foreign policy to speak of. And of course a military that is for appearances only if that.
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And if You really want to know how wonderfull East Germany was speak to Germans that actually lived there, that where trying to escape to the West.
I have checked the election results from the East German states. Very few of the people there support Angela Merkel's pro-American Party. On the other hand, the pro-Russian Die Linke usually gets 25% to 30% of the votes there. Now you will be very surprised to learn that the Die Linke is simply a refurbished version of the Sozialistische Einheitspartei Deutschlands (the East German Communist Party). ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F6%2F61%2FBundestag_2009_Linke.svg%2F523px-Bundestag_2009_Linke.svg.png&t=665&c=HNmSzuM9yzWoHA) And what that supposed to prove economy wise? almost in every democratic country you have a change of political attitudes, yesterday it was Merkel's party, today Die Linke party, tomorrow right sector. But fact is: East side of Germany is behind West side because of bad management in GDR. At any rate; Germany is an occupied country and has been for 70 years. As such it obviously has limited independence and certainly no independent foreign policy to speak of. And of course a military that is for appearances only if that.
If Germany is rally a puppet in the hands of Us then why they allowed for North Stream?
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