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May 31, 2015, 05:13:16 AM
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Everyone repeats over and over again Gavin would be the successor of Satoshi but is there actually any evidence for that?

Can someone please show where Satoshi determined goofy Gavin as his successor?
Thanks in advance for providing that evidence!

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May 31, 2015, 05:46:44 AM
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Bitcoin is an open source project and Gavin has been working on it since the start. I haven't heard about any "hand-picking".

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May 31, 2015, 09:18:30 AM
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no, but there's this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pWblf8COH4&feature=youtu.be&t=5m42s

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May 31, 2015, 10:26:37 AM
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Satoshi will never have anyone succeeding him. Any core dev was never supposed to succeed him, just help him review code and publish it... And that's what they still do, they just do it without Satoshi now
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June 01, 2015, 12:40:36 AM
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Everyone repeats over and over again Gavin would be the successor of Satoshi but is there actually any evidence for that?

Can someone please show where Satoshi determined goofy Gavin as his successor?
Thanks in advance for providing that evidence!

The Bitcoin wiki seems to confirm that Satoshi did indeed appoint Gavin to be his successor:

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Nakamoto was active in making modifications to the Bitcoin software and posting technical information on the Bitcoin Forum until his contact with other Bitcoin developers and the community gradually began to fade in mid-2010. Until a few months before he left, almost all modifications to the source code were done by Satoshi -- he accepted contributions relatively rarely. Just before he left, he set up Gavin Andresen as his successor by giving him access to the Bitcoin SourceForge project and a copy of the alert key.

Link: http://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Satoshi_Nakamoto#Work

However, it's also interesting to note that Gavin stepped down as Bitcoin's lead developer in 2014 and another person took his place:

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Bitcoin’s lead developer Gavin Andresen is stepping down, and handing the reins over to colleague Wladimir van der Laan, also a very experienced bitcoin core developer.

Link: http://www.coindesk.com/gavin-andresen-steps-bitcoins-lead-developer/
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June 01, 2015, 01:17:41 AM
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Everyone repeats over and over again Gavin would be the successor of Satoshi but is there actually any evidence for that?

Can someone please show where Satoshi determined goofy Gavin as his successor?
Thanks in advance for providing that evidence!

The Bitcoin wiki seems to confirm that Satoshi did indeed appoint Gavin to be his successor:

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Nakamoto was active in making modifications to the Bitcoin software and posting technical information on the Bitcoin Forum until his contact with other Bitcoin developers and the community gradually began to fade in mid-2010. Until a few months before he left, almost all modifications to the source code were done by Satoshi -- he accepted contributions relatively rarely. Just before he left, he set up Gavin Andresen as his successor by giving him access to the Bitcoin SourceForge project and a copy of the alert key.

Link: http://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Satoshi_Nakamoto#Work

However, it's also interesting to note that Gavin stepped down as Bitcoin's lead developer in 2014 and another person took his place:

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Bitcoin’s lead developer Gavin Andresen is stepping down, and handing the reins over to colleague Wladimir van der Laan, also a very experienced bitcoin core developer.

Link: http://www.coindesk.com/gavin-andresen-steps-bitcoins-lead-developer/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dropship_%28software%29

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Original author(s)   Wladimir van der Laan

Dropship was a set of API utilities for use with Dropbox accounts. The utilities used Dropbox's de-duplication facilities to allow files, identified by their Dropbox hashes, to be copied from Dropbox's servers.
According to the github project, dropship is no longer functional due to the backend changes Dropbox made to their service.

Controversy[edit]

Dropship was the target of legal maneuvering by Dropbox that attempted to shut down the project and remove it from the Internet. The mechanism of Dropbox's attempt to shut down the Dropship project generated both online discussion and negative press for the company.

Fuck me! I thought I saw a parallel.  Roll Eyes
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June 01, 2015, 05:48:49 AM
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It was the same Gavin, who went to the authorities, that presumably forced Satoshi to go underground.

Did Satoshi differ from Gavin on this step? Was he mad about this? Was he scared or threatend? .....Did he find out something, we all did not know? ...... Nobody except Gavin know, and he is not saying much.

He has the key to the kingdom, and nobody is really asking questions on how he got there...

Gavin has been a very loyal supporter of Bitcoin, nobody can dispute that... but his latest actions puts a dark smudge on everything he did. Nobody is bigger than the community  Sad Sad Sad 

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June 01, 2015, 06:00:07 AM
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I don't understand his great efford to force this 20MB fork. Is there something, that depends on this big blocksize other than just transactions without fee getting stuck? Why not strenthen peoples will to pay a 0.0001 BTC fee instead?

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June 01, 2015, 06:21:14 AM
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I don't understand his great efford to force this 20MB fork. Is there something, that depends on this big blocksize other than just transactions without fee getting stuck? Why not strenthen peoples will to pay a 0.0001 BTC fee instead?

how adding more fee will help?if 10 ten people want to do a transaction at the same time only 3-4, will go through no matter the fee, the fee will just prioritize who has the higher ones
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June 01, 2015, 06:53:28 AM
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It was the same Gavin, who went to the authorities, that presumably forced Satoshi to go underground.

Did Satoshi differ from Gavin on this step? Was he mad about this? Was he scared or threatend? .....Did he find out something, we all did not know? ...... Nobody except Gavin know, and he is not saying much.

He has the key to the kingdom, and nobody is really asking questions on how he got there...

Gavin has been a very loyal supporter of Bitcoin, nobody can dispute that... but his latest actions puts a dark smudge on everything he did. Nobody is bigger than the community  Sad Sad Sad 

It's not something that we know for certain although the evidence does point towards it influencing Satoshi's decision to leave. Satoshi was already mostly inactive on the forums by late 2010 so it's likely that he was planning to disappear long before Gavin announced he was giving a presentation to the CIA (in June 2011).

I don't understand his great efford to force this 20MB fork. Is there something, that depends on this big blocksize other than just transactions without fee getting stuck? Why not strenthen peoples will to pay a 0.0001 BTC fee instead?

how adding more fee will help?if 10 ten people want to do a transaction at the same time only 3-4, will go through no matter the fee, the fee will just prioritize who has the higher ones

Enforcing a higher fee would probably reduce the number of spammy transactions though - i.e. so that instead of having 10 people wanting to make a transaction, you might find that only 5 people want to make a transaction.
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June 01, 2015, 07:02:56 AM
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It was the same Gavin, who went to the authorities, that presumably forced Satoshi to go underground.

Did Satoshi differ from Gavin on this step? Was he mad about this? Was he scared or threatend? .....Did he find out something, we all did not know? ...... Nobody except Gavin know, and he is not saying much.

He has the key to the kingdom, and nobody is really asking questions on how he got there...

Gavin has been a very loyal supporter of Bitcoin, nobody can dispute that... but his latest actions puts a dark smudge on everything he did. Nobody is bigger than the community  Sad Sad Sad 

It's not something that we know for certain although the evidence does point towards it influencing Satoshi's decision to leave. Satoshi was already mostly inactive on the forums by late 2010 so it's likely that he was planning to disappear long before Gavin announced he was giving a presentation to the CIA (in June 2011).

I don't understand his great efford to force this 20MB fork. Is there something, that depends on this big blocksize other than just transactions without fee getting stuck? Why not strenthen peoples will to pay a 0.0001 BTC fee instead?

how adding more fee will help?if 10 ten people want to do a transaction at the same time only 3-4, will go through no matter the fee, the fee will just prioritize who has the higher ones

Enforcing a higher fee would probably reduce the number of spammy transactions though - i.e. so that instead of having 10 people wanting to make a transaction, you might find that only 5 people want to make a transaction.

yeah but this can't resolve the issue, those 5 will wait for the next "second" to do that transaction but then another 5, will not do it for the same reason.. in the end you will have a long queue where a number of transactions(which keeps getting higher each day) are stuck because of the limit, and the fee can't do nothing to this...

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June 01, 2015, 11:46:46 AM
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So Satoshi just made the mistake of handing the alert keys to Gavin and now we are stuck with him or what?

How can we fire Gavin? He is clearly trying to damage Bitcoin.

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June 01, 2015, 11:49:45 AM
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So Satoshi just made the mistake of handing the alert keys to Gavin and now we are stuck with him or what?

How can we fire Gavin? He is clearly trying to damage Bitcoin.

What is your alternative to fix the incoming 1MB block size limit? because we are headed towards a dead end. Gavin's solution is simply a proposal.
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June 01, 2015, 11:51:35 AM
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Everyone repeats over and over again Gavin would be the successor of Satoshi but is there actually any evidence for that?

Can someone please show where Satoshi determined goofy Gavin as his successor?
Thanks in advance for providing that evidence!
Why Satoshi need a successor?  Gavin is just a core developer and not a successor of Satosh.
Bitcoin is open source, any one can contribute it.
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Last edit: June 01, 2015, 12:53:45 PM by Amph
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Everyone repeats over and over again Gavin would be the successor of Satoshi but is there actually any evidence for that?

Can someone please show where Satoshi determined goofy Gavin as his successor?
Thanks in advance for providing that evidence!
Why Satoshi need a successor?  Gavin is just a core developer and not a successor of Satosh.
Bitcoin is open source, any one can contribute it.

the only explanation is that gavin is actually saotshi, or he belongs to the groug called "satoshi nakamoto"

another is because Satoshi trusted only Gavin, and gave him the alert key because he was affected by a disease, and he was dying

p.s. lol AGD, corrected
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June 01, 2015, 12:45:55 PM
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Everyone repeats over and over again Gavin would be the successor of Satoshi but is there actually any evidence for that?

Can someone please show where Satoshi determined goofy Gavin as his successor?
Thanks in advance for providing that evidence!
Why Satoshi need a successor?  Gavin is just a core developer and not a successor of Satosh.
Bitcoin is open source, any one can contribute it.

the only explanation is that gavin is actually saotshi, or he belongs to the groug called "satoshi nakamoto"

another is because Satoshi trusted only Gavin, and gave him the alert key because he was affected by a disease, and it was dying

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June 01, 2015, 12:50:23 PM
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Everyone repeats over and over again Gavin would be the successor of Satoshi but is there actually any evidence for that?

Can someone please show where Satoshi determined goofy Gavin as his successor?
Thanks in advance for providing that evidence!
Why Satoshi need a successor?  Gavin is just a core developer and not a successor of Satosh.
Bitcoin is open source, any one can contribute it.

the only explanation is that gavin is actually saotshi, or he belongs to the groug called "satoshi nakamoto"

another is because Satoshi trusted only Gavin, and gave him the alert key because he was affected by a disease, and it was dying

Then if Gavin is really Satoshi he should stop fucking around and make it public, at least he would probably get more support than what he does get now.
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June 01, 2015, 12:59:40 PM
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Everyone repeats over and over again Gavin would be the successor of Satoshi but is there actually any evidence for that?

Can someone please show where Satoshi determined goofy Gavin as his successor?
Thanks in advance for providing that evidence!

Hey Mircea Popescu! Where was the consensus to lower the limit from 32MB to 1MB?

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June 01, 2015, 01:50:55 PM
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Everyone repeats over and over again Gavin would be the successor of Satoshi but is there actually any evidence for that?

Can someone please show where Satoshi determined goofy Gavin as his successor?
Thanks in advance for providing that evidence!

Hey Mircea Popescu! Where was the consensus to lower the limit from 32MB to 1MB?

lol i see what you did there
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June 01, 2015, 03:02:45 PM
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Lol, these toxic people again. I'm not MP.


1MB is better than a fork without consensus because it could potentially destroy everyones' value.

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