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Disinformation? As in you are claiming these things are not happening? Or you are just drawing conclusions based on the information presented and disagreeing with those? Because the things you posted don't seem to counter the OP, just spin it a different way. |
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May 31, 2015, 08:35:24 PM |
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My gut reaction is that this is dis-info.
I expect this will probably happen at some point under one of two distinct scenarios:
1) Russia decides to capitulate to the West (and/or West+China.)
2) The Western influence in the Middle East collapses and Russia and Iran (who are natural adversaries due to geographical and natural resource consideration) move toward a more aggressive jockeying for position against one another.
I don't see any indication of either of these prerequisites. That doesn't mean they are not occurring however.
Edit: I should state option 3) which is more possible: Russia is simply giving up a rook or pawn that they know is lost.
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May 31, 2015, 08:36:15 PM |
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Disinformation? As in you are claiming these things are not happening? Or you are just drawing conclusions based on the information presented and disagreeing with those? Because the things you posted don't seem to counter the OP, just spin it a different way. Lately there have been a lot of reports that Russia / Iran / Hezbollah are abandoning Syria's Assad. This is blatant disinformation. I suppose in that respect, yes, I am claiming these things are not happening. I will refer to Hasan Nasrallah, sec. general of Hezbollah's speech here: http://thesaker.is/hassan-nasrallah-game-over-for-syria-and-bashar-al-assad-eng-sub/Russia / Iran / Hezbollah remain committed to supporting the Assad regime through thick and thin. Occasionally, disinfo campaigns are launched to make Assad's regime appear weak. I am not sure what goal they are trying to achieve with this. It's all part of psychological warfare. |
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May 31, 2015, 08:36:37 PM |
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even if this is true Assad is going to fight to the bitter end this war has a lot longer to go.
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May 31, 2015, 08:49:57 PM |
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My gut reaction is that this is dis-info.
I expect this will probably happen at some point under one of two distinct scenarios:
1) Russia decides to capitulate to the West (and/or West+China.)
2) The Western influence in the Middle East collapses and Russia and Iran (who are natural adversaries due to geographical and natural resource consideration) move toward a more aggressive jockeying for position against one another.
I don't see any indication of either of these prerequisites. That doesn't mean they are not occurring however.
Edit: I should state option 3) which is more possible: Russia is simply giving up a rook or pawn that they know is lost.
1) Russia decides to capitulate to the West (and/or West+China.) not gonna happen 2) The Western influence in the Middle East collapses not gonna happen 3) which is more possible: Russia is simply giving up a rook or pawn that they know is lost. not gonna happen i would vite for option 4 - ISIS will take control over syric and iraq completely |
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May 31, 2015, 10:54:49 PM |
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My gut reaction is that this is dis-info.
I expect this will probably happen at some point under one of two distinct scenarios:
1) Russia decides to capitulate to the West (and/or West+China.)
2) The Western influence in the Middle East collapses and Russia and Iran (who are natural adversaries due to geographical and natural resource consideration) move toward a more aggressive jockeying for position against one another.
I don't see any indication of either of these prerequisites. That doesn't mean they are not occurring however.
Edit: I should state option 3) which is more possible: Russia is simply giving up a rook or pawn that they know is lost.
1) Russia decides to capitulate to the West (and/or West+China.) not gonna happen 2) The Western influence in the Middle East collapses not gonna happen 3) which is more possible: Russia is simply giving up a rook or pawn that they know is lost. not gonna happen i would vite for option 4 - ISIS will take control over syric and iraq completely I don't think ISIS will take over Iraq, US invested far too much cash in Iraq to let it go. Will ISIS take Syria? maybe but again that would be to much and US as well as EU would take more drastic action. Of course I could be completely wrong but time will tell and hopefully ISIS will be taken down. |
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tvbcof
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May 31, 2015, 11:04:27 PM |
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Edit: I should state option 3) which is more possible: Russia is simply giving up a rook or pawn that they know is lost.
... 3) which is more possible: Russia is simply giving up a rook or pawn that they know is lost. not gonna happen i would vite for option 4 - ISIS will take control over syric and iraq completely Your #4 is a re-statement of my #3. ISIS = US just as did the Taliban = US back in the Afghanistan days and thereafter. A guy would have to be about as blind as a bat to see that the U.S. has one goal for any country we attack; turn them into a totally nightmare failed state. For the faults of the secular dictators like Hussein, Qaddafi, and al-Assad, women didn't wear veils for fear of their life and they were not only allowed to know how to read but were invited to go to college. Clearly the U.S. cannot tolerate such things in this part of the world and will kill millions to make sure it is not practical. |
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Russia will not abandon Assad. But they have realized that his days are numbered. ISIS is making steady gains, at the expense of Assad's forces. The pro-government militias control less than one-third of the Syrian territory right now. The big disadvantage for Assad is that he can't replace his dead fighters, as his recruitment pool is limited. On the other hand, the ISIS can easily replace their dead or injured fighters from outside Syria.
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