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June 01, 2015, 05:52:12 AM
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How of life on earth is just one giant videogame?  Thought there was a thread on this already, couldn't find it though?

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June 01, 2015, 08:12:50 AM
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Are you talking about the possibility of life reality essentially being the matrix? They covered this on Through the Wormhole with Morgan Freeman recently. It's nothing new and of course it could always be possible, but I don't really believe it.

There's also an interesting theory that the universe is hologram (don't believe that either though): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_principle
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June 01, 2015, 02:27:59 PM
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I remember reading this paper a couple of years ago.

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This paper argues that at least one of the following propositions is true: (1) the human species is very likely to go extinct before reaching a “posthuman” stage; (2) any posthuman civilization is extremely unlikely to run a significant number of simulations of their evolutionary history (or variations thereof); (3) we are almost certainly living in a computer simulation. It follows that the belief that there is a significant chance that we will one day become posthumans who run ancestor-simulations is false, unless we are currently living in a simulation. A number of other consequences of this result are also discussed.

So the author argues that posthumans would be very likely to create complex simulations of their own history, and it's much more likely that we are part of such a simulation rather than being the "first run" of humans that haven't reached that level of technology yet.

However the other options (1 & 2) would negate that idea.

How you decide which of these is more probable, I don't know, most of the paper is beyond my comprehension.

Another interesting point made in the paper is the possibility of multi-layered realities/simulations, where humans in one simulation create a sub-simulation within it, and then the humans in that sub-simulation build a sub-sub-simulation etc. This would create an interesting hierarchy of "gods and demi-gods", all in control of their respective simulations.

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June 01, 2015, 02:51:55 PM
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How of life on earth is just one giant videogame?  Thought there was a thread on this already, couldn't find it though?


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June 02, 2015, 05:50:18 AM
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as a game developer i can confirm that real life is indeed a videogame. Think about how many universes there are, and how if there is a computer there is probably more than one computer, which increases the chances that one there is a life simulation being run. conways game of life disproves god

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June 02, 2015, 11:47:41 AM
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How of life on earth is just one giant videogame?  Thought there was a thread on this already, couldn't find it though?

The 'idea' dates back to the days when the Young's Interference Experiment broke through.
One of the leading thought process was the fact that light could exist as both a wave and a particle system but only observable as one of those two.

The thought was further progressed to the point in quantum physics that matter at it's quantum level could exist in more than one place in the universe at the same time. Matter wont exist until the simple act of observing it caused it to 'exist'.

Compare these thoughts to the various render engine we have, and we can find the similarity.

One can argue that matter just like in a game engine is only 'rendered' when it is observed, else it exists and doesnt exist at the same time ~ like a game asset which is out of render view.

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June 02, 2015, 12:58:47 PM
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What happened to the other thread that was here a day or two ago.  I saw it before I think it was here a day or two.

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June 02, 2015, 01:11:50 PM
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as a game developer i can confirm that real life is indeed a videogame. Think about how many universes there are, and how if there is a computer there is probably more than one computer, which increases the chances that one there is a life simulation being run. conways game of life disproves god

Sorry, does not compute.

What happened to the other thread that was here a day or two ago.  I saw it before I think it was here a day or two.

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June 02, 2015, 01:27:42 PM
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as a game developer i can confirm that real life is indeed a videogame. Think about how many universes there are, and how if there is a computer there is probably more than one computer, which increases the chances that one there is a life simulation being run. conways game of life disproves god

Sorry, does not compute.

What happened to the other thread that was here a day or two ago.  I saw it before I think it was here a day or two.

The agents must've moved it. I think we know too much  Grin.






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June 02, 2015, 01:42:31 PM
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"There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.

There is another theory which states that this has already happened."
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June 04, 2015, 09:12:39 PM
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Experiment suggests that reality doesn't exist until it is measured



Researchers working at the Australian National University (ANU) have conducted an experiment that helps bolster the ever-growing evidence surrounding the weird causal properties inherent in quantum theory. In short, they have shown that reality does not actually exist until it is measured – at atomic scales, at least.

Associate Professor Andrew Truscott and his PhD student, Roman Khakimov, of ANU's Research School of Physics and Engineering conducted a version of John Archibald Wheeler's delayed-choice thought experiment – a variation of the classic double-slit experiment, where light is shown to display characteristics of both waves and particles – where an object moving through open space is provided the opportunity (some would say "a choice") to behave like a particle or a wave.

In this instance, however, the ANU team replicated Wheeler's experiment using multiple atoms, which was much more difficult to do than a test using photons. This extra difficulty is due to the fact that, as they have mass, atoms tend to interfere with each other, which can theoretically influence the results.

"An atom is a much more classical particle," Associate Professor Truscott said. "For the theory to hold with a single atom is significant because it proves that it works for particles with mass."

To carry out the experiment, the ANU team initially trapped a collection of helium atoms in a Bose-Einstein condensate (a medium in which a dilute gas is cooled to temperatures very close to absolute zero), and then forcibly ejected them from their containment until there was only a single atom left behind.

This remaining atom was then released to pass through a pair of counter-propagating laser beams (that is, beams moving in opposite directions), which created a pattern to act as a crossroads for the atom in the same way that a solid diffusion grating would act to scatter light.

After this, another laser-generated grating was randomly added and used to recombine the routes offered to the atom. This second grating then indiscriminately produced either constructive or destructive interference as if the atom had journeyed on both paths. Conversely, when the second light grating was not randomly added, no interference would be introduced, and the atom would behave as if it had followed only one path.

However, and this is the really weird part, the arbitrary number generated to determine if the grating was added or not was only generated after the atom had passed through the crossroads. But, when the atom was measured at the end of its path – before the random number was generated – it already displayed the wave or particle characteristics applied by the grating after it had completed its journey.

According to Truscott, this means that if one chooses to believe that the atom really did take a particular path or paths, then one also has to accept that a future measurement is affecting the atom's past.

"The atoms did not travel from A to B. It was only when they were measured at the end of the journey that their wave-like or particle-like behavior was brought into existence," said Truscott. "It proves that measurement is everything. At the quantum level, reality does not exist if you are not looking at it.”

Even though the findings of the experiment add to the perceived weirdness of quantum theory, the results also validate it. But, even without regard to the weird aspects, quantum physics almost certainly governs the world at the atomic level, and this existence has enabled the development of quantum technologies ranging from cryptography to solar cells.

From an everyday point of view, our minds perceive that an object should behave like a wave or a particle, quite independently of how it is measured. However, as this experiment supports, quantum physics predicts that it doesn’t seem to matter if a particle or object should show wave-like behavior or particle-like behavior; it all depends on how it is actually measured at the end of its journey.

"Quantum physics' predictions about interference seem odd enough when applied to light, which seems more like a wave, but to have done the experiment with atoms, which are complicated things that have mass and interact with electric fields and so on, adds to the weirdness," said Roman Khakimov.

The first time ever that Wheeler's delayed-choice experiment has been conducted using a single atom, the quantum weirdness represented by this experiment much more closely approaches the macro world in which humans perceive reality, which adds to the significance of the findings.

The results of this research were recently published in the journal Nature Physics


http://www.gizmag.com/quantum-theory-reality-anu/37866/



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June 04, 2015, 10:22:21 PM
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Are you talking about the possibility of life reality essentially being the matrix? They covered this on Through the Wormhole with Morgan Freeman recently. It's nothing new and of course it could always be possible, but I don't really believe it.

There's also an interesting theory that the universe is hologram (don't believe that either though): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_principle

Logic is holographic in structure, so to that extent the Universe (i.e. a logical structure) is axiomatically holographic.

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June 04, 2015, 10:40:34 PM
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June 05, 2015, 12:26:27 AM
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How of life on earth is just one giant videogame?  Thought there was a thread on this already, couldn't find it though?

Please, pretty please, when bad mood hits you, dont go onto killing spree in Wallmart and blame it on playing Grand Theft Auto. Thank you.

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