Is Gavin Andresen undercover for the CIA?

[fatguyyyyy]

I seriously doubt he's a CIA mole ..

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I wouldnt be surprised if Gavin received a letter from the NSA .. though I seriously doubt he's 'undercover' for the CIA lol

[Unbelive]

I found your question strange. You are asking if her is a mole in CIA?  That CIA thinks he works for them, but he works fro someone else?  This is job for counter intelligence service. I have no ideas how is called in USA. In UK is MI6.

I agree if he is mole in the CIA, he should be ashamed to work against his homeland.

[kazuki49]

The scary part is that if he is, there is nothing we can about it. They've won.

[tvbcof]

The scary part is that if he is, there is nothing we can about it. They've won.

Not by a long shot.  Ultimately Hearndresen could be the best thing that ever happened for Bitcoin in certain somewhat non-intuitive ways.  His rather surprising actions have the potential to set off a chain reaction which offers Bitcoin it's best hope for enduring value (using the term broadly) and success.  Not on his XT fork of course.

[kazuki49]

The scary part is that if he is, there is nothing we can about it. They've won.

Not by a long shot.  Ultimately Hearndresen could be the best thing that ever happened for Bitcoin in certain somewhat non-intuitive ways.  His rather surprising actions have the potential to set off a chain reaction which offers Bitcoin it's best hope for enduring value (using the term broadly) and success.  Not on his XT fork of course.

I see what you mean , you could be right, time will tell.

[TruthBear]

As someone who grew up in a family of actual government operatives, I assure you this is comedy gold to them.

Gavin is a CIA agent.  Buwahahahah

I'm voting yes. A poll. OMG hahahah.

Do they know that you spend a great deal of time on an anarchist forum chatting about the end of the fiat world? Bitcointalk in a nutshell?

Yes. Despite my constant pointing out the silliness of many conspiracy theories I am actually fairly radical. I just don't go in for theories when there are plenty of documented facts about the government's misuse of authority. For example I saw no mention here of the "American Freedom Act" that past yesterday. Even with a name straight out of a George Orwell book, it sailed through with no public outcry. Only Rand Paul held, and was abandoned by his own party.

My Dad served in the FBI and from what I have seen I believe they would only get involved if:
(A)There were a bunch of complaints about specific people or a business.
(B) The specter of terrorists or pedophiles is brought up. That get's everyone going. 
(C) It was part of a larger operation. Like say a money laundering scheme.

Honestly, at the institutional level I think they know very little about bitcoin. Which is not a good thing. Misunderstanding bitcoin is what leads to stupid draconian laws and a perception of BTC as criminal in nature.


   

The started to get involved after Wikileaks accepted Bitcoin donations and they wanted to cut off their money supply.

Coincidence, right? I don't think so... Gavin will be paraded down the streets of Washington as a war hero after he succeeds.

[tvbcof]

Just as an aside, I have a proposition of sorts that I'm developing.  It is this: The more widely ridiculed a 'conspiracy theory' is, the more it is worth analyzing as a hypothesis.  'fluoride in the water' and 'tinfoil hats' are classics.

Turns out that fluoride in the water is now pretty clearly associated with decreased cognitive function.  That from a Harvard review of research which came mostly out of China (interestingly, as one would expect it to have been studied significantly by countries which supplement their own water supplies.)  True, the concentrations needed to see statistical artifacts are above the level of treatment that we tend to uses in municipal water supplies, but by a factor which is really quite small considering the inherent difficulties of dosing by this method.

With respect to 'tinfoil hats', I doubt that I was alone as a reasonably scientifically literate person who was a bit surprised by these results:

  http://news.yale.edu/2014/03/25/yale-researchers-reconstruct-facial-images-locked-viewer-s-mind

Most of us know that sensors which can detect electromagnetic activity are becoming really sensitive as technology moves forward and the computer processing power needed to make sense of brain data is becoming immense.  It is really not to far outside the realm of possibility that fairly impressive 'mind reading' by 'them' could be possible.  Nor that a tinfoil hat could impact it.  Certainly not so far out that it warrants the traditional level of derision...though no where near likely enough to wear a tinfoil hat either.

As a function of my analyzing the hypothesis about 'mind reading', I do notice that it is very much in vogue for 'them' to try to get at least a little mercury into everyone's body relatively early in the game.  Pregnant women are highly encouraged to get flu shots now and they still usually contain mercury.  It used to be that back in the day a pregnant woman was supposed to avoid all medications if possible.  One the first day of life one shot is very highly pushed.  It is for hepatitis which can be caught almost exclusively by engaging in unprotected sex or sharing dirty drug needles...neither of which are likely for a new-born infant.  Almost all shots use aluminium as an adjuvant and have contents which weaken the blood brain barrier.  Of course these observations don't prove anything or even come close.  It's just interesting and fun (to me) to see if this rather mysterious use of vaccinations maps to a hypothesis about the practicality of mind control.  Actually, I would expect 'writing' to be more practical than 'reading' when it comes to metallic elements in the brain.

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For the record, I consider the hypothesis that sinister use of fluoride in the water, or wide-spread mind reading (or behavior modification) or vaccines used to facilitate it are less likely than not, but I do not reject these hypothesis either.  I simply have no rational basis upon which to do so.

[Pecunia non olet]

Option 1: Gavin suffers from obsessive compulsive disorder
Option 2: Gavin wants to attack Bitcoin for personal gain
Option 3: He works for the government

[TruthBear]

Option 1: Gavin suffers from obsessive compulsive disorder
Option 2: Gavin wants to attack Bitcoin for personal gain
Option 3: He works for the government

All of the above?

[yayayo]

Well, nothing is impossible.

There are multiple ways the CIA or other government bodies might have influenced Gavin. Maybe through personal incentives, maybe through incentives regarding to their actions towards Bitcoin. Since Gavin is a rather conformist person, who exhibits an above average narcissistic personality trait and in general appreciates governance, it would be an easy task.

The most realistic scenario would be that government wants a (to a degree) controllable Bitcoin and therefore tries to foster the change from a decentralized Bitcoin to a Bitcoin working on a reduced number of supernodes that can be put under control or surveillance with limited resources.

That's all speculation, but after the Snowden revelations I would not be surprised at all if it's confirmed.

ya.ya.yo!

[Cruxer]

Another level of conspiracy theory 
He can work with CIA, but for what reason, noone will know.

[randy8777]

Another level of conspiracy theory 
He can work with CIA, but for what reason, noone will know.

there are way too many trolls, don't believe everything you hear. theoretically every one can work for the CIA or FBI, NSA or whatever. people like to talk about nonsense.

[yayayo]

Another level of conspiracy theory 
He can work with CIA, but for what reason, noone will know.

there are way too many trolls, don't believe everything you hear. theoretically every one can work for the CIA or FBI, NSA or whatever. people like to talk about nonsense.

Theoretically everyone could work for the CIA, yes... but not everyone was invited by them to do a presentation and happily accepted...

To be clear: I'm not claiming that Gavin works for the CIA, but I think this speculation has at least some informational foundation.

ya.ya.yo!

[BTI4LIFE]

I vote yes and he is PERSONALLY in charge of keeping an eye on all the bitcointalk members! :-) haaaa!!! ~ ROTFLMFAO

[yayayo]

Stop trying to hide your agenda pls.....

You're trying too hard .... its actually backfiring.

You must have thought no1 here remember your FUD and BS past several days

I'm not aware of having a hidden agenda. Are you a conspiracy theorist?

At least you openly admit that you're a proud homosexual scammer. That's true honesty.

ya.ya.yo!

[BIT-Sharon]

What does CIA can get from Bitcoin? Maybe private information of bitcoin holders are not what they care about. The position of US is not steady as before, and do they worry about it? Or find out the ones who trade with bitcoin illegally for earning money by selling weapons? Yes, the motives are various. However, that depends on the motives of yourself by holding bitcoin. If it is legal,  you won't be held any cues to commit crime.

[AJMax]

CIA and NSA controls bitcoin. You are all part of their trial phase social/economic experiment used to determine the viability of cryptocurrency, until they decide in the near future to unleash a much more advanced form of crypto based economic tool that they can control and direct based on all the references they are gathering now.

There. Happy? 

[RodeoX]

CIA and NSA controls bitcoin. You are all part of their trial phase social/economic experiment used to determine the viability of cryptocurrency, until they decide in the near future to unleash a much more advanced form of crypto based economic tool that they can control and direct based on all the references they are gathering now.

There. Happy? 

Pretty good, but it needs bigfoot. How could bigfoot factor into this? I know he's behind this somehow.

[cakir]

CIA and NSA controls bitcoin. You are all part of their trial phase social/economic experiment used to determine the viability of cryptocurrency, until they decide in the near future to unleash a much more advanced form of crypto based economic tool that they can control and direct based on all the references they are gathering now.

There. Happy? 

Pretty good, but it needs bigfoot. How could bigfoot factor into this? I know he's behind this somehow.

Nope it's not bigfoot.
Bitcoin was built by aliens originally (like Egypt Pyramids). This's why no one could ever find satoshi yet...
(He's now in a galaxy far far away)