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June 02, 2015, 08:20:29 AM
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what mechanisms should here have to prevent criminal actions?

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June 02, 2015, 08:31:21 AM
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what mechanisms should here have to prevent criminal actions?

What crimes are you referring to?  This is kinda very very broad and could be a lot of topis.  So hard to even give an anwser.

Like crimes btc is used  in?  Crimes when its stolen?  All depends which one.
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June 02, 2015, 12:22:39 PM
Last edit: June 03, 2015, 07:09:05 AM by Amph
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trade with only trusted members

use always escrow

use common sense

don't trade with guy that want to use paypal/skrill/other paypal clone

try to divide your amount in small fractions when dealing with someone, in the worst case you will lose a tiny portion

don't download shitty stuff from random newbie user


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June 02, 2015, 01:37:45 PM
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what mechanisms should here have to prevent criminal actions?

What crimes are you referring to?  This is kinda very very broad and could be a lot of topis.  So hard to even give an anwser.

Like crimes btc is used  in?  Crimes when its stolen?  All depends which one.

Exactly, OP isnt providing enough information here to get an answer they're looking for; are we talking real life or on this forum in general? One real life example I can think of is requiring cryptography to prove your identity; could've come in handy with the social engineering hack on the forum recently.

theres nothing here. message me if you want to put something here.
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June 02, 2015, 01:44:43 PM
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You should provide for detailed information what kind of crime you mean. i guess its about saving your Bitcoins. The most secure way is to create a cold wallet.
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June 02, 2015, 05:32:05 PM
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Call the police if you've had stuff stolen!
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June 03, 2015, 06:59:14 AM
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I am meaning the forum to prevent scammers do scams or selling hacked accounts, stolen, digital and/or physical goods and anything that you may consider as a crime and the forum has some bugs. In fact you may have some recommendations for forum admin to make here a better place.

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June 03, 2015, 08:28:36 AM
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I am meaning the forum to prevent scammers do scams or selling hacked accounts, stolen, digital and/or physical goods and anything that you may consider as a crime and the forum has some bugs. In fact you may have some recommendations for forum admin to make here a better place.

This forum is worldwide, crimes in one place are not crimes in another placed. Usually people report to the meta forum if there are problems.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=24.0

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June 03, 2015, 09:06:50 AM
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I am meaning the forum to prevent scammers do scams or selling hacked accounts, stolen, digital and/or physical goods and anything that you may consider as a crime and the forum has some bugs. In fact you may have some recommendations for forum admin to make here a better place.
simple answer is to do some research before doing any trade or paying other people.
there is always going to be scammers everywhere, the buyer should take the necessary precautions.

for example, in buying accounts; you should buy from someone who is trusted, use escrow, ask for sign message before paying, ...

about buying digital goods, most newbie selling digital goods are scams. for example you buy a digital good like a game or licence to a program, after a while it deactivates because it was bought with a stolen credit card.


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i suggest always using a middleman if the seller/buyer is not trusted enough.
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So you think there is no need for improving and forum is perfect and only people must take care of their posts.

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No mechanism will stop a crime on the forum, but it could be reduced if some things are acknowledged as a crime and then moderated accordingly. Post or threads could be deleted, if it is deemed to be against the rules of the forum.
To make these rules or to acknowledge something as a crime, it should be against the laws of all people from every country around the world. Ponzi's for example, is not against the laws of some countries.
The popular believe, is to outlaw anything that may be against the laws of the country where the forum is hosted.
The forum owner are held responsible for everything that is done on his or her forum. <Like with Silkroad>
This is very difficult to prosecute, if the forum is hosted in a neutral area, but managed or owned by someone from another nationality. 

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June 03, 2015, 12:57:16 PM
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trade with only trusted members

use always escrow

use common sense

don't trade with guy that want to use paypal/skrill/other paypal clone

try to divide your amount in small fractions when dealing with someone, in the worst case you will lose a tiny portion

don't download shitty stuff from random newbie user


i think there are more....

If you are using escrow, you wouldnt need to trade only with ''trusted'' members, just because someone has green trust doesnt mean he cant scam you, there has been cases so dont be so sure just because you are trading with a trusted member.
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So something like phone verification is not necessary to  prevent crime and fraud and scamming?

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June 03, 2015, 02:15:48 PM
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trade with only trusted members

use always escrow

use common sense

don't trade with guy that want to use paypal/skrill/other paypal clone

try to divide your amount in small fractions when dealing with someone, in the worst case you will lose a tiny portion

don't download shitty stuff from random newbie user


i think there are more....

If you are using escrow, you wouldnt need to trade only with ''trusted'' members, just because someone has green trust doesnt mean he cant scam you, there has been cases so dont be so sure just because you are trading with a trusted member.

yeah i know about this, there are hackers that has hacked some high trusted account just to scam other users, especially with the recent forum downtime, all those point that i've listed are mutually exclusive
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June 03, 2015, 02:22:56 PM
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what mechanisms should here have to prevent criminal actions?

Common sense. It's impossible to eradicate crime but you can protect yourself quite well by not doing stupid things. Make sure your coins are safe and backed up and if you have to trade or exchange use reliable sites or people. If you trade with people make sure you used a trusted escrow.
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June 03, 2015, 06:07:03 PM
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So you think there is no need for improving and forum is perfect and only people must take care of their posts.

More precisely is the action, must be careful to take an action. Also don't easy to believe to someone. Essentially back to ourselves each.
The forum is need stable security which can fight the hacker.
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June 04, 2015, 10:09:42 AM
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trade with only trusted members

use always escrow

use common sense

don't trade with guy that want to use paypal/skrill/other paypal clone

try to divide your amount in small fractions when dealing with someone, in the worst case you will lose a tiny portion

don't download shitty stuff from random newbie user


i think there are more....

If you are using escrow, you wouldnt need to trade only with ''trusted'' members, just because someone has green trust doesnt mean he cant scam you, there has been cases so dont be so sure just because you are trading with a trusted member.

yeah i know about this, there are hackers that has hacked some high trusted account just to scam other users, especially with the recent forum downtime, all those point that i've listed are mutually exclusive

Well you are right thats why people should always ask for a signed message from the escrow and always verify it, that way you are 99.9% sure that you wont get scammed, the only possibility would be the escrow to scam you which shouldnt happen, i have never seen it happen.
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June 04, 2015, 10:36:27 AM
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So something like phone verification is not necessary to  prevent crime and fraud and scamming?
you mean phone verification for entering or signing up in this forum?!
it is not a good idea. since many people wouldn't like it and no one is willing to give out much personal information to public.
besides whatever they do, scammers always find a way to scam, so you have to be careful yourself.

Weak hands have been complaining about missing out ever since bitcoin was $1 and never buy the dip.
Whales are those who keep buying the dip.
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June 04, 2015, 03:04:21 PM
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So something like phone verification is not necessary to  prevent crime and fraud and scamming?
you mean phone verification for entering or signing up in this forum?!
it is not a good idea. since many people wouldn't like it and no one is willing to give out much personal information to public.
besides whatever they do, scammers always find a way to scam, so you have to be careful yourself.
Yes, that may not be that much well but it was just a recommendation, maybe using escrow is the best.

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