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Few comments after try the quincunx several times. 1. I bet on the red table with max payout x990, as listed under the name "Quincunx" the max bet is 0.05btc but what I see the max winning under the "bet" tab is only 0.00019980. Hope this is only visual bug.. http://prntscr.com/7c79cv2. After several bets,now I cant place bet. Getting notification "minimum bet is 10satoshi" but in fact I try to bet more than 10 satoshi. 3. Regarding to the faucet, how many times a user can claim the faucet? Thanks.
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Few comments after try the quincunx several times. 1. I bet on the red table with max payout x990, as listed under the name "Quincunx" the max bet is 0.05btc but what I see the max winning under the "bet" tab is only 0.00019980. Hope this is only visual bug.. http://prntscr.com/7c79cv2. After several bets,now I cant place bet. Getting notification "minimum bet is 10satoshi" but in fact I try to bet more than 10 satoshi. 3. Regarding to the faucet, how many times a user can claim the faucet? Thanks. Thanks for your post Ad. 1 Max win tab is not updating properly, it should update after every bet value change but its only updating after you make bet and then reresh page Easy to fix, will be fixed in next hours Ad 2. We will try to reproduce this behaviour and fix it as soon as possible Ad 3. There is no limit ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Few comments after try the quincunx several times. 1. I bet on the red table with max payout x990, as listed under the name "Quincunx" the max bet is 0.05btc but what I see the max winning under the "bet" tab is only 0.00019980. Hope this is only visual bug.. http://prntscr.com/7c79cv2. After several bets,now I cant place bet. Getting notification "minimum bet is 10satoshi" but in fact I try to bet more than 10 satoshi. 3. Regarding to the faucet, how many times a user can claim the faucet? Thanks. Thanks for your post Ad. 1 Max win tab is not updating properly, it should update after every bet value change but its only updating after you make bet and then reresh page Easy to fix, will be fixed in next hours Ad 2. We will try to reproduce this behaviour and fix it as soon as possible Ad 3. There is no limit ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Are you serious there is no limit on the faucet? So a user can claim anytime when his balance is under 10satoshi, I think it can be abused easily. Player bet on red table just from the faucet till he hit x990...then withdraw it..is it good for you?Is it a kind of promotions? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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1. I bet on the red table with max payout x990, as listed under the name "Quincunx" the max bet is 0.05btc but what I see the max winning under the "bet" tab is only 0.00019980. Hope this is only visual bug..
Ad. 1 Max win tab is not updating properly, it should update after every bet value change but its only updating after you make bet and then reresh page Easy to fix, will be fixed in next hours This is fixed now, if you have page loaded, ctrl + F5 (refresh) to see change. Are you serious there is no limit on the faucet? So a user can claim anytime when his balance is under 10satoshi, I think it can be abused easily. Player bet on red table just from the faucet till he hit x990...then withdraw it..is it good for you?Is it a kind of promotions? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) There is no problem since its hard to hit 999. Someone would need to write special software (bot) to spam bets + refill FREE BTC, spam bets + refill FREE BTC, spam bets + refill FREE BTC etc. We are monitoring our systems to prevent such spam. Its ok for now, if we will see too much abuse of this, we will consider change ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . Maybe place refill captcha (but bot software can also handle that). We will see. WiseHammer is my nickname on there ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Hello ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) , just added 400 satoshi to your account
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Review of the secondary game: When I click the first time the coin falls. after the game, if I bet again it doesn't works. Tried on Firefox and Chrome :/ I don't want to hard refresh after every bet.
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Review of the secondary game: When I click the first time the coin falls. after the game, if I bet again it doesn't works. Tried on Firefox and Chrome :/ I don't want to hard refresh after every bet.
Thanks for post There is some message when you bet again (clicking bet button)? Or button is disabled (you clicking but nothing happens)? You do something while coin is falling? Im trying to reproduce this, but without success yet.
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Suggestion for the video poker game : its better to change your card, I mean the color of the number should be the same color with the image. Just make it like real cards, and wont make some players confuse.. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FxAHhLX6.png&t=665&c=PXI21F5TAQQCQA)
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June 02, 2015, 01:10:02 PM |
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Suggestion for the video poker game : its better to change your card, I mean the color of the number should be the same color with the image. Just make it like real cards, and wont make some players confuse.. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FxAHhLX6.png&t=665&c=PXI21F5TAQQCQA) We missed it, thank you! Fixed We are aware of 'out of sync' and bug that require you to refresh page to continue play. Its most important thing to fix now. If you encounter it, and you know how to reproduce it, it will help.
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the movement of coins fall seems to be abit slow & the Bet & Start sometimes dun work (no respond) need to keep refresh page .
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the movement of coins fall seems to be abit slow
Thank you for your post Yup we noticed on not new hardware it work too slow. We will work on quincunx speed optimizations and second problem also.
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the movement of coins fall seems to be abit slow
Thank you for your post Yup we noticed on not new hardware it work too slow. We will work on quincunx speed optimizations and second problem also. thats odd my pc is really old but it works normally for me maybe it was just a browser problem he had there, well its just my guess
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June 02, 2015, 04:43:09 PM |
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Fixed security design flaw in Quincunx (thx to you hacker, even if you not reported this ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) ) Fixed bet adjusting in Quincunx could lead to disabled button (inability to play) thats odd my pc is really old but it works normally for me maybe it was just a browser problem he had there, well its just my guess
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Well once again a new site comes along and screws you.
First, I cannot withdraw. Some weird "error aasssssdgggg124" pops up at the top of the screen. (I'm not joking, it literally looked like the programmer slammed on the asdf keys a lot)
Now, I log back in to try again, and my balance is zeroed out.
No response in chat or to my email.
My recommendation: Don't play here if you think you might win. When you go up, your balance is zeroed out.
Theives.
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June 02, 2015, 05:02:33 PM |
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Well once again a new site comes along and screws you.
First, I cannot withdraw. Some weird "error aasssssdgggg124" pops up at the top of the screen. (I'm not joking, it literally looked like the programmer slammed on the asdf keys a lot)
Now, I log back in to try again, and my balance is zeroed out.
No response in chat or to my email.
My recommendation: Don't play here if you think you might win. When you go up, your balance is zeroed out.
Theives.
Dont you think that its to early to say like that? perhaps they still have some bugs that affect to your withdrawal. Anyway, did you make a deposit to this site? How much your lost? Lets wait for OP explanation regarding this issue.
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Affected my withdrawal, sure, but also then later zeroed out my balance? I'm guessing that because I won, they had a "hack" and the "hacker" was caught, and his balance zeroed out. Isn't that conveinent for them. Fixed security design flaw in Quincunx (thx to you hacker, even if you not reported this ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) ) Fixed bet adjusting in Quincunx could lead to disabled button (inability to play) If you're referring to me as a "hacker" because I won, and using some security flaw bullshit excuse to zero out my winnings, you're just as big a worthless pile of trash as the rest of the theives that take off with players deposits. I had 134 wins and 96 losses. Yes, I obviously "hacked" you. I wonder how many more "bugs" they find when other people win.
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June 02, 2015, 05:20:43 PM |
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@rollinbones i know you are zxvxzv ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) which used design flaw of quincunx which provided server seed and player seed so you could predict result before bettting. If it was loosing bet, you changed client seed and checked again, if it was good bet you went through with it. You are impudent/insolent not sure which word is better here, to come here and claim we own you something. You didn't report this (then we would owe you bug bounty) and used it to your advantage, so we resetted your balance to 0. Thank you for security audit. You deposited nothing, you gained nothing. We salted Server seed now for quincunx, and will publish it after X days, similiar to luckybit. End of story "hacker".
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June 02, 2015, 05:22:04 PM |
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Well since I've been busy today busting provably fair nonsense, I figured I'd check out the new guys on the block.
Your "provably fair" system is a laughable JOKE. None of it makes any sense. Let's list the absolute absurdity:
1: The server seed you show after a bet does NOT hash out to the hash you say it is before you bet
2: In fact, the hash you say it IS isn't even a hash of anything. You're showing a 40 character hash. Which is sha-1. But you claim sha256. But then even when I try hashing it with sha1, it's not right. So it's all completely fabricated.
3: My client seed? I'm not allowed to use it. It's randomly turned into a not-SHA1 40 character hash that I cannot reproduce.
4: Your verification method for the coin dropping game makes no sense whatsoever. You're concat'ing the server and client seeds, but you're not even using my client seed.
5: Oh, let's look at the poker one, this one is the best. It deserves it's own subsection:
5a: It also uses the not-SHA1 hashing "algorithm". 5b: You show the "initial" deck but it's cut off with ellipses. So the entire initial deck is unknown. 5c: On one page you say the deck is shuffled via: seed the twister with ServerSeed.ClientSeed (see #4 above, also NOT using my client seed), and then FisherYates the mystery deck mentioned in 5b above. 5d: EVEN BETTER - On the verification page, the page mentioned in 5c references, the ENTIRE PROCESS is COMPLETELY different! You say the state of the initial deck is hashed via sha256 (but it's not, again, it's mystery-SHA1) and presented. And it uses a Server Seed as 'extra security'. 5d.1: You then claim it's twister'ed by the player seed. Again, the player seed that is not my player seed, mystery hashed. And is in direct contradiction to how you claim it's seeded in 5c. 5d.2: Now it's FisherYates shuffled, and the initial deck is: 5d.2 subsection A) NOT even REMOTELY close to what you claim it is in 5b above AND... 5d.2 subsection B) Shown what it is, even though just 2 steps above on the SAME page you claim (via inference, because it's protected by a hash) it's ALREADY been shuffled. 5e: And lastly, you claim after the game you reveal the deck, the initDeck, and the server seed, of which 2/3rds of that is a blatant lie!
I've never seen such a horribly poor setup before.
This is one of two things: A scammer who is too stupid to pull it off
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An honest site admin who's head is screwed on so backwards he cannot even decide on which verification system he wants to use, NEITHER OF WHICH, by the way, ACTUALLY hash out to the results of the game! I played a few, and for the life of me, and believe me, I've become an expert in verification of betting sites after the 999dice bullshit, could not get a single hand to verify to EITHER of the two systems claimed.
My recommendation: Avoid it like the plague.
rollinbones: If he did zero out your balance, I'm firmly in the "scammer" camp and I'm sorry you got taken before I had a chance to post this and warn you and others away.
Future gambling site admins: Just stop. Please. Stop. You cannot claim provably fair, then not be. And for the love of all that is holy, make up your mind before you choose to rip people off!
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