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June 08, 2015, 02:39:09 PM
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In my experience, the main thing that distinguishes people who don't want to buy bitcoin, is the ability to understand the concept of an pyramid scheme.

This is such un ignorant remark, if you TRULY understand how an pyramid scheme works, you'll know that Bitcoin can't be one Smiley

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June 08, 2015, 02:43:06 PM
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I understand how a pyramid scheme works, and how uneducated fools are attracted to them. That's one of the main reasons that made me win  a nice sum of money, when bitcoin was light and attractive enough to have a profitable inflow of greater fools.


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June 08, 2015, 02:45:40 PM
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I understand how a pyramid scheme works, and how uneducated fools are attracted to them. That's one of the main reasons that made me win  a nice sum of money, when bitcoin was light and attractive enough to have a profitable inflow of greater fools.

Ok in other words, you were out to scam other people!? Because the price dropped cuz of so much factors, government interfering a big factor, you claim it's a ponzi, while it could have just as easily gon the other way up, you're really a negative nancy Smiley

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June 08, 2015, 03:03:24 PM
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you claim it's a ponzi

No, I claimed that it's a pyramid scheme.
But thank you for proving my point by showing the inability to distinguish a pyramid scheme and a ponzi scheme.


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June 08, 2015, 03:54:42 PM
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Yeah, I guess people don't want to invest in Facebook, Instagram, Uber and the rest of billoaire marketcap softwares lol. Nice troll. Made me reply Cheesy

LOL the Op is clearly trolling but there is some truth to what he is saying, Bitcoin still has the image of "magic internet money" in the average person's head.
Obviously we are conditioned to believe software applications like Office or Photoshop provides a utilitarian value and thus has worth but the general public still think of Bitcoin as some "fantasy" currency much like Xbox Points or something.

I'm with you. That is the feeling i get when talking to people who haven't heard of it.



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June 08, 2015, 05:36:58 PM
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I understand how a pyramid scheme works, and how uneducated fools are attracted to them. That's one of the main reasons that made me win  a nice sum of money, when bitcoin was light and attractive enough to have a profitable inflow of greater fools.

Bitcoin is here to stay. You did great selling at 1K because the price was bubbled, but it's a different story thinking it's game over because "the pump" happened. If you don't see it then you are looking far enough into the future. There will be way bigger bubbles than the 1K one.
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June 09, 2015, 05:58:52 AM
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you claim it's a ponzi

No, I claimed that it's a pyramid scheme.
But thank you for proving my point by showing the inability to distinguish a pyramid scheme and a ponzi scheme.

There is very little difference between pyramid or ponzi, this is semantics U are abusing, sad sad Smiley

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June 09, 2015, 06:06:25 AM
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you claim it's a ponzi

No, I claimed that it's a pyramid scheme.
But thank you for proving my point by showing the inability to distinguish a pyramid scheme and a ponzi scheme.

There is very little difference between pyramid or ponzi, this is semantics U are abusing, sad sad Smiley
It's numb nuts again, standard naming onself protocol. Do not waste your time with the fraudulent.
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June 09, 2015, 06:08:11 AM
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I understand how a pyramid scheme works, and how uneducated fools are attracted to them. That's one of the main reasons that made me win  a nice sum of money, when bitcoin was light and attractive enough to have a profitable inflow of greater fools.

Bitcoin is here to stay. You did great selling at 1K because the price was bubbled, but it's a different story thinking it's game over because "the pump" happened. If you don't see it then you are looking far enough into the future. There will be way bigger bubbles than the 1K one.
No kidding, so many people have been burned in recent times that they haven't the foggiest clue/idea about how bull markets work. Things get out of hand on the upward flip in such a large way and times are soon a changing.
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June 09, 2015, 07:29:29 AM
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There will be way bigger bubbles than the 1K one.

There is a chance of this happening. A wealthy individual with a gambling problem could cause another rise to 1k$ for instance.
But the odds of this happening are just bad. In my judgement, playing with bitcoin is just a bad bet.
The bitcoin network is wasteful and bloated, so it's eating value out of the market. The bitcoin market has to have at least 3600 btc worth of fiat coming in every day for the price to be sustainable. What the key players in the bitcoin market (the exhanges) don't share with you, is that currently there is very little new money coming in and the price can only be sustained by miners operating at a loss. Considering that most of the business plans in mining were based on debt, then to me it's only logical to conclude that the bitcoin mining scenery will soon face a catastrophic collapse, with the involved companies going bankrupt and all hoarded coins dumped on the market.
The only real chance that bitcoin had, was around 14 months ago. Bitcoin would have recovered if the drops would have been deeper and the price would have stayed there longer. It would have cooled down the overheating of bitcoin mining, that's practically a monkey on the markets weak back. But the amateurish "to the moon" attitude tried to jumpstart new bubbles out of nothing, and by that fueled more needless optimism to the mining scenery. Now bitcoin is in a position where time will only add weight to this final collapse that the overheating in mining will cause.

There is very little difference between pyramid or ponzi, this is semantics U are abusing, sad sad Smiley

A pyramid scheme and a ponzi scheme are different animals if you know what you're talking about.
For instance bitcoin is a pyramid scheme by it's characteristics, and it can also be a ponzi if things turn out accordingly.

1) Bitcoin is a Ponzi scheme when one day Satoshi will dump 1mil.+ coins to the market, and by that would eat out all the wealth from the market.
2) Bitcoin will stay only a pyramid scheme if that won't happen.

Pyramid schemes are open by nature and things are as they seem - new members joining the pyramid will make older members of the pyramid rich. The main attraction to join the pyramid will be hopes of more people joining after you. There are no direct lies or deception about the nature of the system. To put it simply, it's honest about being a pyramid.
Ponzi in another hand is fraudulent by nature. The claimed rules and goals are deceptive. It's main attraction are straight out lies about it's mechanics and goals.

To sum it up, bitcoin is a pyramid scheme and only time will tell if it will also turn out to be a ponzi.


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June 09, 2015, 07:40:06 AM
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People with this kind of thinking will end up having nothing. In life, you win some, you lose some. You don't always win. Investing is also gambling. You can't always get profit. And bitcoin is investment so I won't look at it as bullcrap.

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June 09, 2015, 07:49:37 AM
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the one that say this is because

they got burned at 1200k

they can't understand bitcoin

they still think that it it a scam

just another bullshit excuse to dismiss bitcoin
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June 09, 2015, 08:11:57 AM
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People can hack it  Angry

you had somehow hacked brain or something? this is one of the most stupid thread which I ever seen..
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June 09, 2015, 10:23:39 AM
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People can hack it  Angry

you had somehow hacked brain or something? this is one of the most stupid thread which I ever seen..

at first i also posted that this is a nonsense thread, but the dude simply doesn't understand how bitcoin works. i'm sure if he get to know bitcoin better he then realize how bad this thread is.
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June 09, 2015, 10:26:32 AM
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People can hack it  Angry

you had somehow hacked brain or something? this is one of the most stupid thread which I ever seen..

my point was to say that, unlike gold, bitcoin as a software raises some issues :

- the code is written by humans who can make mistakes
- the code is written by a few people whose interests can be corrupted
- as a software, it is indeed hackable, theoraticcaly
- i mean come on, just look at all the mess the gavin's proposal for a fork is creating.

Like it or not, the fact that bitcoin is a software HAS some importance, and gives bitcoin some ACTUAL problems.

This fork thing, added to the 7 transactions limitation and the blockchain size, had me removing my investment in bitcoin. And tat's sad to say.

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June 09, 2015, 10:54:43 AM
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People can hack it  Angry

EDIT : Some additional arguments since it was initially a troll
Bad consequences of the software thing
  • The dev can change the software dramatically (like if some scientists could change gold composition, supply etc..)
  • A software, if not perfect, is vulnerable to hack/exploit/misuse (could relate to fake gold)
  • The developpement raises the question of centralism if there is one main dev, or face the issue of statu quo if the consensus cannot be reached (no such thing in gold)
  • It can be replicated pretty easily. It faces competition from other coins or simply other blockchains if some forks are not accepted by everyone.

I don't say it's a huge problem, i just say that for a reasonable person, that's one problem when you consider investing in something that has to be solid enough.

You need to do a homework. Is all on this forum. Block chain cant get hacked and cant be wrong and is indestructible.
People dont need to invest.They will just use services that will be best for them.
Companies will invest in software around block chain. And hope those software will not get hacked, since on that will base their profit.
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June 09, 2015, 07:46:41 PM
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Umm the level of security on bitcoin is good.

Its just the third parties like blockchain or some problems not setting up a 2fa security is the main with most.
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June 11, 2015, 10:19:57 PM
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the hate comes from people who fail to comprehend that bitcoin is unlike anything seen before. In time, they will be educated.
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June 12, 2015, 11:17:29 AM
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the hate comes from people who fail to comprehend that bitcoin is unlike anything seen before. In time, they will be educated.

Finally! An intelligent reply!
I have thought the same way that someone should start developing new education centers for bitcoin. Parents could take their young children to these education centers, so that they could get PROPER early education regarding bitcoin. If we would be living in true FREEDOM, then there would be laws that would prohibit spreading WRONG information about bitcoin. Everyone who spreads WRONG information about bitcoin should be educated by force, so they wouldn't be this STUPID any longer. But we live in a world that is run by banksters, so there are no laws against this stupidity!!!

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June 12, 2015, 03:53:26 PM
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people don't want to invest in bitcoin because:
they never heard of bitcoin and think it is a nerd thing
they heard about it, didn't understand it and thought it might be scam
they have read MasterCard talk about bitcoin

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