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July 11, 2015, 03:44:21 PM
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When can we expect payment owed to us by the signature & avatar campaigns?
I believe ndnhc has post counted but no payment yet.

I think we need to wait for dadice to refill escrow wallet, since the available balance is not enough to pay all participants.

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July 11, 2015, 03:45:19 PM
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When can we expect payment owed to us by the signature & avatar campaigns?
I believe ndnhc has post counted but no payment yet.

Update: The payments will be made in the weekend. Counting for all campaigns have been completed.

Have a happy weekend. Smiley

Cheers,
ndnhc

After such an awesome campaign, the least you can do is be patient for a bit. See above quote regarding payments.

cheers
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July 12, 2015, 08:34:36 AM
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We have refilled the escrow with the necessary funds. As soon as devthedev has time the final payments will be made.

I would like to take this opportunity to say thank you to devthedev for the immaculate service he has provided.

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July 12, 2015, 08:38:25 AM
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We have refilled the escrow with the necessary funds. As soon as devthedev has time the final payments will be made.
LOL what? Are you trying to say that devthedev allowed the signature campaign to continue without sufficient funds to pay all the participants Huh

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July 12, 2015, 08:52:57 AM
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We have refilled the escrow with the necessary funds. As soon as devthedev has time the final payments will be made.
LOL what? Are you trying to say that devthedev allowed the signature campaign to continue without sufficient funds to pay all the participants Huh

Not really sure how could you ask like that, as I understand dadice just refilled devthedev wallet to pay FINAL payments to all participants, means that there will be no more payments after it.
Correct me if I misunderstood your post..



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July 12, 2015, 09:05:48 AM
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We have refilled the escrow with the necessary funds. As soon as devthedev has time the final payments will be made.
LOL what? Are you trying to say that devthedev allowed the signature campaign to continue without sufficient funds to pay all the participants Huh

I dont think the an escrow manager has the power to stop a signature campaign? they just hold funds.
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July 12, 2015, 09:47:09 AM
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We have refilled the escrow with the necessary funds. As soon as devthedev has time the final payments will be made.
LOL what? Are you trying to say that devthedev allowed the signature campaign to continue without sufficient funds to pay all the participants Huh

Not really sure how could you ask like that, as I understand dadice just refilled devthedev wallet to pay FINAL payments to all participants, means that there will be no more payments after it.
Correct me if I misunderstood your post..




I think Quickseller meant that devthedev should've informed the participants that the escrow funds is not sufficient enough to pay the participants incase this had happened.. This is only what I have understood..
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July 12, 2015, 10:03:33 AM
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We have refilled the escrow with the necessary funds. As soon as devthedev has time the final payments will be made.
LOL what? Are you trying to say that devthedev allowed the signature campaign to continue without sufficient funds to pay all the participants Huh

Not really sure how could you ask like that, as I understand dadice just refilled devthedev wallet to pay FINAL payments to all participants, means that there will be no more payments after it.
Correct me if I misunderstood your post..


I think Quickseller meant that devthedev should've informed the participants that the escrow funds is not sufficient enough to pay the participants incase this had happened.. This is only what I have understood..

There was no plan of stopping the campaign 3 days ago, and we weren't able to predict it. Dang! Sad

 If it was not closed, the balance would be enough to cover the usual payments. Tongue
Currently excess expenses are due to:
1. Cashing out of entire LP balances, which amounted to more than the basic payments at the rates
2. Premature fixed campaign payments
3. Premature avatar payments.

I have already mentioned that Da Dice admin will be refilling the escrow if escrow balance falls short. Smiley

Time travel is not yet invented (or made public Tongue), so he couldn't. Devthedev is a really good escrow and he has always released payments on time.

Cheers Smiley
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July 12, 2015, 11:07:59 AM
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We have refilled the escrow with the necessary funds. As soon as devthedev has time the final payments will be made.
LOL what? Are you trying to say that devthedev allowed the signature campaign to continue without sufficient funds to pay all the participants Huh

Not really sure how could you ask like that, as I understand dadice just refilled devthedev wallet to pay FINAL payments to all participants, means that there will be no more payments after it.
Correct me if I misunderstood your post..




I think Quickseller meant that devthedev should've informed the participants that the escrow funds is not sufficient enough to pay the participants incase this had happened.. This is only what I have understood..

That is what an escrow should do. If the amount in escrow is less than that necessary for payment then its the escrow's duty to inform the participants. The participants join an escrowed campaign in the knowledge that in case the company is unable to pay for whatever reason, the funds in escrow will be used to pay them.

In this case it seems that devthedev was acting as a payment dispenser rather than a true escrow. I assume many of the participants trust dadice enough to be comfortable with the arrangement but devthedev should have informed them.
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July 12, 2015, 11:15:46 AM
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We have refilled the escrow with the necessary funds. As soon as devthedev has time the final payments will be made.
LOL what? Are you trying to say that devthedev allowed the signature campaign to continue without sufficient funds to pay all the participants Huh

Not really sure how could you ask like that, as I understand dadice just refilled devthedev wallet to pay FINAL payments to all participants, means that there will be no more payments after it.
Correct me if I misunderstood your post..


I think Quickseller meant that devthedev should've informed the participants that the escrow funds is not sufficient enough to pay the participants incase this had happened.. This is only what I have understood..

There was no plan of stopping the campaign 3 days ago, and we weren't able to predict it. Dang! Sad

 If it was not closed, the balance would be enough to cover the usual payments. Tongue
Currently excess expenses are due to:
1. Cashing out of entire LP balances, which amounted to more than the basic payments at the rates
2. Premature fixed campaign payments
3. Premature avatar payments.

I have already mentioned that Da Dice admin will be refilling the escrow if escrow balance falls short. Smiley

Time travel is not yet invented (or made public Tongue), so he couldn't. Devthedev is a really good escrow and he has always released payments on time.

Cheers Smiley
ndnhc
Seems like you didn't actually read the post above your own.
We have refilled the escrow with the necessary funds. As soon as devthedev has time the final payments will be made.
LOL what? Are you trying to say that devthedev allowed the signature campaign to continue without sufficient funds to pay all the participants Huh

Not really sure how could you ask like that, as I understand dadice just refilled devthedev wallet to pay FINAL payments to all participants, means that there will be no more payments after it.
Correct me if I misunderstood your post..




I think Quickseller meant that devthedev should've informed the participants that the escrow funds is not sufficient enough to pay the participants incase this had happened.. This is only what I have understood..

That is what an escrow should do. If the amount in escrow is less than that necessary for payment then its the escrow's duty to inform the participants. The participants join an escrowed campaign in the knowledge that in case the company is unable to pay for whatever reason, the funds in escrow will be used to pay them.

In this case it seems that devthedev was acting as a payment dispenser rather than a true escrow. I assume many of the participants trust dadice enough to be comfortable with the arrangement but devthedev should have informed them.

This inability to pay if because of the sudden closure of the campaign and people converting their Loyalty points , paying for avatar campaign beforehand and other things that are written in nhdnc's post. Try reading it up.
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July 12, 2015, 11:50:56 AM
Last edit: July 12, 2015, 12:58:39 PM by ajareselde
 #431

We have refilled the escrow with the necessary funds. As soon as devthedev has time the final payments will be made.
LOL what? Are you trying to say that devthedev allowed the signature campaign to continue without sufficient funds to pay all the participants Huh

Not really sure how could you ask like that, as I understand dadice just refilled devthedev wallet to pay FINAL payments to all participants, means that there will be no more payments after it.
Correct me if I misunderstood your post..




I think Quickseller meant that devthedev should've informed the participants that the escrow funds is not sufficient enough to pay the participants incase this had happened.. This is only what I have understood..

That is what an escrow should do. If the amount in escrow is less than that necessary for payment then its the escrow's duty to inform the participants. The participants join an escrowed campaign in the knowledge that in case the company is unable to pay for whatever reason, the funds in escrow will be used to pay them.

In this case it seems that devthedev was acting as a payment dispenser rather than a true escrow. I assume many of the participants trust dadice enough to be comfortable with the arrangement but devthedev should have informed them.


Escrow address was public and known to all participants, it is no surprise that ~0.2 btc was short, given the fact that campaign ended prematurely.
If the people couldn't count to 10, then we would have an issue, because that's all you need to verify escrow funds.

The only thing i see here is members disgracing other members in struggle for competing services,
shame ,shame ,shame  - DING!

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July 12, 2015, 12:34:27 PM
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Most people here knew that the escrow wasn't completely filled...
Seeing as it's a pay per post campaign the total payment varies based on the number of posts in the payment cycle. All the escrow addresses were public and there was a total which showed how much more the escrow address needed. This was the same throughout the last payment cycle and was perfectly fine. We all got paid and the campaign was run smoothly and efficiently.
I don't see the need for any personal attacks here...
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July 12, 2015, 01:59:45 PM
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We have refilled the escrow with the necessary funds. As soon as devthedev has time the final payments will be made.
LOL what? Are you trying to say that devthedev allowed the signature campaign to continue without sufficient funds to pay all the participants Huh

Not really sure how could you ask like that, as I understand dadice just refilled devthedev wallet to pay FINAL payments to all participants, means that there will be no more payments after it.
Correct me if I misunderstood your post..


I think Quickseller meant that devthedev should've informed the participants that the escrow funds is not sufficient enough to pay the participants incase this had happened.. This is only what I have understood..

There was no plan of stopping the campaign 3 days ago, and we weren't able to predict it. Dang! Sad

 If it was not closed, the balance would be enough to cover the usual payments. Tongue
Currently excess expenses are due to:
1. Cashing out of entire LP balances, which amounted to more than the basic payments at the rates
2. Premature fixed campaign payments
3. Premature avatar payments.

I have already mentioned that Da Dice admin will be refilling the escrow if escrow balance falls short. Smiley

Time travel is not yet invented (or made public Tongue), so he couldn't. Devthedev is a really good escrow and he has always released payments on time.

Cheers Smiley
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I am not sure how you would argue it would be sufficient to cover the usual payments. All of those expenses should have been accounted for in the amount of funds being held in escrow. If DaDice had run away and not funded the escrow after the fact then the following expenses would have been paid out by the escrow:
1: Loyalty Points
2: The fixed rate campaign when members have their month be up
3: The avatar campaign when members have their month be up

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July 12, 2015, 02:33:27 PM
Last edit: July 12, 2015, 02:44:24 PM by dadice
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We have refilled the escrow with the necessary funds. As soon as devthedev has time the final payments will be made.
LOL what? Are you trying to say that devthedev allowed the signature campaign to continue without sufficient funds to pay all the participants Huh

Not really sure how could you ask like that, as I understand dadice just refilled devthedev wallet to pay FINAL payments to all participants, means that there will be no more payments after it.
Correct me if I misunderstood your post..


I think Quickseller meant that devthedev should've informed the participants that the escrow funds is not sufficient enough to pay the participants incase this had happened.. This is only what I have understood..

There was no plan of stopping the campaign 3 days ago, and we weren't able to predict it. Dang! Sad

 If it was not closed, the balance would be enough to cover the usual payments. Tongue
Currently excess expenses are due to:
1. Cashing out of entire LP balances, which amounted to more than the basic payments at the rates
2. Premature fixed campaign payments
3. Premature avatar payments.

I have already mentioned that Da Dice admin will be refilling the escrow if escrow balance falls short. Smiley

Time travel is not yet invented (or made public Tongue), so he couldn't. Devthedev is a really good escrow and he has always released payments on time.

Cheers Smiley
ndnhc
I am not sure how you would argue it would be sufficient to cover the usual payments. All of those expenses should have been accounted for in the amount of funds being held in escrow. If DaDice had run away and not funded the escrow after the fact then the following expenses would have been paid out by the escrow:
1: Loyalty Points
2: The fixed rate campaign when members have their month be up
3: The avatar campaign when members have their month be up

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Was just waiting for you Cheesy

What is this for a casino you are promoting???

Where is the cold wallet address for the 3671 btc jackopot?
Where is their iTech Labs certificate that proof that they are provably fair?
Are you promoting a scam?

In addition we have paid our debts, I hope your questionable newbie casino with a jackpot of 3671+ btc will do so as well in the future.


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July 12, 2015, 03:10:11 PM
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Well, this really sucks, I heard some guys living in a third world type of country were in this campaign and making a better living than what they can do with their exploitative jobs, proof that BTC is changing the world right there. Unfortunately campaigns come and go and now they are fucked again...

what are some other campaign that have decent rates like this? Hopefully they don't start lowering their rates now that the price of BTC is going up, that's just cheap. I also hope you aren't quitting the campaign because the price is going up and you don't want to pay more $$ to the posters..
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I think it's time for all the haters & doubters to leave Da Dice alone now. Let's just get on with our own lives.

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July 12, 2015, 03:39:44 PM
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Well, this really sucks, I heard some guys living in a third world type of country were in this campaign and making a better living than what they can do with their exploitative jobs, proof that BTC is changing the world right there. Unfortunately campaigns come and go and now they are fucked again...

what are some other campaign that have decent rates like this? Hopefully they don't start lowering their rates now that the price of BTC is going up, that's just cheap. I also hope you aren't quitting the campaign because the price is going up and you don't want to pay more $$ to the posters..

No it has nothing to do with the price. DaDice is bitcoin based - not fiat based.

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July 12, 2015, 03:50:07 PM
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Just curious to ask,
With a massive expense, Is advertise through signature campaign really increase your traffic site ?

   
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July 12, 2015, 03:58:38 PM
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Just curious to ask,
With a massive expense, Is advertise through signature campaign really increase your traffic site ?

   


Yes it did actually. Though in the last few weeks we got more traffic from other sources, i.e. our banner advertising campaigns through coin.url and other advertising networks, as well as advertising on altcoin forums.

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July 12, 2015, 04:05:36 PM
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We have refilled the escrow with the necessary funds. As soon as devthedev has time the final payments will be made.
LOL what? Are you trying to say that devthedev allowed the signature campaign to continue without sufficient funds to pay all the participants Huh

Not really sure how could you ask like that, as I understand dadice just refilled devthedev wallet to pay FINAL payments to all participants, means that there will be no more payments after it.
Correct me if I misunderstood your post..


I think Quickseller meant that devthedev should've informed the participants that the escrow funds is not sufficient enough to pay the participants incase this had happened.. This is only what I have understood..

There was no plan of stopping the campaign 3 days ago, and we weren't able to predict it. Dang! Sad

 If it was not closed, the balance would be enough to cover the usual payments. Tongue
Currently excess expenses are due to:
1. Cashing out of entire LP balances, which amounted to more than the basic payments at the rates
2. Premature fixed campaign payments
3. Premature avatar payments.

I have already mentioned that Da Dice admin will be refilling the escrow if escrow balance falls short. Smiley

Time travel is not yet invented (or made public Tongue), so he couldn't. Devthedev is a really good escrow and he has always released payments on time.

Cheers Smiley
ndnhc
I am not sure how you would argue it would be sufficient to cover the usual payments. All of those expenses should have been accounted for in the amount of funds being held in escrow. If DaDice had run away and not funded the escrow after the fact then the following expenses would have been paid out by the escrow:
1: Loyalty Points
2: The fixed rate campaign when members have their month be up
3: The avatar campaign when members have their month be up

With all due respect, devthedev is the most responsible, trusted and recommendable escrow I know.

You are missing facts there. We converted the entire LP balances, while there is no compulsion to do so. And there are bonuses, and for the fixed campaign, and avatar campaign, even those who made 1-5 posts or so were paid. What exactly are you complaining about? devthedev released every single payment without any issues, and on a timely basis. And none of the campaign participants nor me nor da dice have any complaints regarding that. I am aware that you offer escrow service too, but that shouldn't come between this.

I trust Da Dice, that is true. Probably you never expected Steve to refill the escrow? Tongue

That is it. Case closed.
Thanks Smiley
ndnhc
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