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June 04, 2015, 06:11:01 AM
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What is new?

All windows can force update on you
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June 04, 2015, 06:47:02 AM
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After 7 has completed its time, ill use windows only for games. Moving to linux after this 8 Metro garbage
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June 04, 2015, 06:49:49 AM
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That's rude.

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June 04, 2015, 08:25:20 AM
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i had been using the release preview since 3 months back..now i am happy to see that it has been announced to launch in next month..
already updates are showing in toolbar of my friends laptop..i am very excited to see the what changes they have made in comparison of release preview and their product launch.

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June 04, 2015, 11:23:29 AM
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You do realize that the only valid reason to opt for Windows 10 is DirectX 12 which won't be available on Windows 7 or 8. That's actually the main reason for jumping ship on something stable as Windows 7.
We will be left out and won't be able to play games that require DirectX 12. Forcing updates is the wrong way to go. I would never use a system where they could push updates (or any files for that sake) into your PC.
Incoming "security update" , publisher: NSA.  Roll Eyes

However I rarely see any Home editions of Windows 7. If I  factor in the amounts of PCs that I have repaired, then the dominant version is Ultimate edition.

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June 04, 2015, 06:34:32 PM
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I am pretty sure, people will find a way to stop from updating Windows 10.
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June 04, 2015, 07:02:23 PM
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Windows 7 is probably the best windows there is and its gone down hill from there windows 8 was a complete mess i tried it and took it off the computer right away its got to be the worst since windows 98
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June 04, 2015, 07:03:15 PM
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I am pretty sure, people will find a way to stop from updating Windows 10.

yeah by not using it hopefully either use windows 7/xp what ever one you prefer or use linux based system.
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June 05, 2015, 08:17:14 AM
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I actually agree, that Windows 7 is the best, but am open minded about Windows 10 . Well see what future brings
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June 05, 2015, 04:58:58 PM
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I read that this will final version of windows from microsoft, after this no other version will released so updates will a good idea for security updates and bug fixes.I won't mind updating even if its forced.
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July 23, 2015, 04:44:18 AM
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I really like the new window version but the window 7 still the best. Smiley

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July 23, 2015, 09:24:52 AM
Last edit: July 24, 2015, 12:40:05 AM by bitedge
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Am I the only one who thinks Windows is going downhill since 7. I don't like that "tablet/touch" interface they are trying to shove on my computer.

I think everyone feels that way, I will give windows 10 a fair chance since I will get it for free, if its not a big improvement then i am done with windows for good.

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July 23, 2015, 09:28:50 AM
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I removed Windows 10, as the two applications I needed it to work incorrectly,I like Windows 7
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July 23, 2015, 09:52:34 AM
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Am I the only one who thinks Windows is going downhill since 7. I don't like that "tablet/touch" interface they are trying to shove on my computer.

I paid over $600 for this laptop over a year ago because of its touch screen capabilities. I quite touching the screen about an hour after I first turned this bitch on.
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July 23, 2015, 06:27:08 PM
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We tried using Windows 10 for real work and... oh, the horror

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/07/windows_10_for_windows_8_and_7_users/

<< While working with Windows 10, I found it hard to believe that this is a product three weeks from release. The back-of-the-envelope direction for Windows is the right one, and there are promising things happening all over Windows. But the experience suggests a wildly chaotic development process. Microsoft seems to have veered from trusting a dictator to abolishing the figure of authority completely. Separate teams just seem to have done their own thing, with management having faith it would all come together in time for the release date. (...) In fact, even now I'm wondering if the Windows 10 Insider Preview is not some elaborate piece of theatre, a kind of front. That perhaps a stable version of Windows 10 that nobody outside Redmond has ever seen is quietly maturing away, without the zany UX experiments (and bugs) of the public preview version. >>
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July 23, 2015, 06:30:07 PM
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Windows 10 to make the Secure Boot alt-OS lock out a reality

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/windows-10-to-make-the-secure-boot-alt-os-lock-out-a-reality/

<< Those of you with long memories will recall a barrage of complaints in the run up to Windows 8's launch that concerned the ability to install other operating systems - whether they be older versions of Windows, or alternatives such as Linux or FreeBSD - on hardware that sported a "Designed for Windows 8" logo.

To get that logo, hardware manufacturers had to fulfil a range of requirements for the systems they built, and one of those requirements had people worried. Windows 8 required machines to support a feature called UEFI Secure Boot. Secure Boot protects against malware that interferes with the boot process in order to inject itself into the operating system at a low level. When Secure Boot is enabled, the core components used to boot the machine must have correct cryptographic signatures, and the UEFI firmware verifies this before it lets the machine start. If any files have been tampered with, breaking their signature, the system won't boot.

This is a desirable security feature, but it has an issue for alternative operating systems: if, for example, you prefer to compile your own operating system, your boot files won't include a signature that Secure Boot will recognize and authorize, and so you won't be able to boot your PC.

However, Microsoft's rules for the Designed for Windows 8 logo included a solution to the problem they would cause: Microsoft also mandated that every system must have a user-accessible switch to turn Secure Boot off, thereby ensuring that computers would be compatible with other operating systems. Microsoft's rules also required that users be able to add their own signatures and cryptographic certificates to the firmware, so that they could still have the protection that Secure Boot provides, while still having the freedom to compile their own software.

This all seemed to work, and the concerns that Linux and other operating systems would be locked out proved unfounded.

This time, however, they're not.

At its WinHEC hardware conference in Shenzhen, China, Microsoft talked about the hardware requirements for Windows 10. The precise final specs are not available yet, so all this is somewhat subject to change, but right now, Microsoft says that the switch to allow Secure Boot to be turned off is now optional. Hardware can be Designed for Windows 10 and can offer no way to opt out of the Secure Boot lock down.

Should this stand, we can envisage OEMs building machines that will offer no easy way to boot self-built operating systems, or indeed, any operating system that doesn't have appropriate digital signatures. This doesn't cut out Linux entirely - there have been some collaborations to provide Linux boot software with the "right" set of signatures, and these should continue to work - but it will make it a lot less easy.

We've asked Microsoft if the slides are accurate and OEMs will indeed be able to build machines that essentially lock out other operating systems, especially in light of the visceral reaction to the original Secure Boot requirement. We're still awaiting a reply. >>
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July 23, 2015, 06:31:20 PM
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Why Microsoft's mobile cancer has ruined Windows 10

http://www.itproportal.com/2015/05/04/why-microsofts-mobile-cancer-ruined-windows-10/

<< In the new world of Microsoft there has been a distinct shift in focus; Satya Nadella has said that the company’s focus is a "mobile-first, cloud-first" strategy. This is all well and good – and in many ways makes a great deal of sense – but there is a very real danger that Microsoft is focusing too much on these new goals to the detriment of other areas.

Windows 10 is an excellent case in point. This is an operating system that is destined for a wide range of devices, from phones and tablets to desktops, consoles and IoT devices yet to be devised. But in catering to the mobile side of its dream for the future, Microsoft has lost direction for desktop users and has made far too many compromises. >>
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July 23, 2015, 06:45:04 PM
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How to uninstall Windows Update KB3035583 – The Windows 10 AKA Squares 10 downloader

Microsoft is trying everything they can to shove down our throats their new abomination called Windows 10 AKA Squares 10. Their latest attempt was to include a downloader for the wretched thing among the recommended updates for Windows 7 and for their previous abomination, Squares 8.1. That company is so dirty that the description for the update (KB3035583) is "enables additional capabilities for Windows Update notifications when new updates are available to the user", which will lead even people who have the common sense NOT TO allow updates to be automatically downloaded and installed to get it.

If you happened to install the sneaky downloader you'll notice a new icon with the Squares 10 logo on the system tray (the area on the lower right corner of the screen where the clock is). Also, if you open the Windows Task Manager (CTRL+SHIFT+ALT), you'll see the downloader's GWX.EXE process running under the Processes tab. Follow the instructions from the article below to get rid of it:

http://www.myce.com/news/how-to-uninstall-kb3035583-the-windows-10-downloader-for-windows-7-and-8-1-75681/

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July 23, 2015, 06:54:39 PM
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Other windows can do it too, even if you disable the updates(at least is what Stallman says)

At least now they are not lying
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July 23, 2015, 07:14:43 PM
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Other windows can do it too, even if you disable the updates(at least is what Stallman says)

Never seen that happen - at least not on main OS (XP 64) or my gaming OS (Win 7).

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