Confused about conspiracy theories? Ask me!

[Mageant]

I've been researching these "conspiracies" for nearly 10 years now. I actually started researching the UFO phenomenon in the early 90s but didn't start understanding the big picture until early 2006 when I started researching 9/11. Since then I have been scouring the Internet, going to conferences and meeting people on these topics. I have found that a quite consistent general picture has emerged how all of this fits together.

I'm willing to answer any questions people may have and give pointers to sources.

Topics include:

    False flag operations

    Mind control techniques & technology

    Secret power structures (current & historic)

    Suppressed technologies (free energy, health cures, etc.)

    UFO phenomena / ETs

    Paranormal phenomena

    Occultism

    Afterlife, Spirituality, "Higher Dimensions"

    Cryptozoology

    Lost civilizations (true history of Earth)

    Secret space programs (SSPs)

[notbatman]

What are your thoughts on Flat Earth Theory? (sorry if it's not listed)

[Mageant]

What are your thoughts on Flat Earth Theory? (sorry if it's not listed)

I don't believe it.

[notbatman]

How about time travel, any thoughts on that? (again sorry if it's not listed)

[AlgoSwan]

How about Mind control techniques & technology?

[protokol]

What are your thoughts on confirmation bias and filter bubbles?

Most people I know who are into this sort of thing get all their info from questionable sources, and don't seem to understand that search algorithms are returning them to these sources time and time again. They also don't seem to know how to "validate" sources; i.e. they think the information on a 20 year old geocities page which has numerous spelling and grammar errors and no sources, is more valid than a Reuters news article.

I've tried to get them to understand that this is wrong, but they just get angry. My follow up question is, how do you approach someone who believes in a truly ridiculous conspiracy theory and get them to see sense?

[Lauda]

What are your thoughts on Flat Earth Theory? (sorry if it's not listed)

I don't believe it.

I don't even know how one could believe such nonsense. You can disprove this theory yourself if you have money to spend (shouldn't be that expensive).
This method might be a bit expensive compared to some others. You could try building a mini rocket and send it to a very high altitude and take pictures of earth. Many government agencies and private groups have already done this thousands of times. However this isn't the most practical way. Pictures and videos taken by satellites and space stations are certainly the most definitive proof that the earth is a sphere. However, some would argue that this is all fake for reasons that are beyond me.

Could you elaborate your stance (start the discussion) in regards to the following:
Mind control techniques & technology
UFO phenomena / ETs
Lost civilizations (true history of Earth)
Secret space programs (SSPs)

Those are some certainly interested subjects. I'm aware of suppressed technologies. The very reason that we've had slow progression with the solar energy efficiency is because the big companies will start losing a lot of money. I'm not even going to comment the pharmaceutical companies and e.g. cancer.

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I've tried to get them to understand that this is wrong, but they just get angry. My follow up question is, how do you approach someone who believes in a truly ridiculous conspiracy theory and get them to see sense?

That's a tough question. There are people that you just can't reason with. I've actually given up trying to educate some people due to their stubbornness.
Example:
In my area many believe that video games are a waste of time and very harmful. I've done my research on the subject (enough compared to everyone else who probably did nothing). When I present them with evidence from e.g. APA (articles and whatnot), the usual reply is: I don't care; What do they know; etc.

I think it is more beneficial for the individual who is aware and listens to reason to just stop trying to convince such people. I'm pretty sure that it is better for me to do more research, or actually do anything than waste my time on people who aren't willing to listen.

[Prelude]

Please elaborate on SSPs.

[Superhitech]

What do you think of "the hill" alien abduction?

[Mageant]

How about time travel, any thoughts on that? (again sorry if it's not listed)

Time travel is possible. Apparently it works by the "many worlds" interpretation of Quantum Physics. So when you travel into the past, you don't actually travel into the past of your own Universe, but to a parallel reality that may be very similar to yours. So you could travel into your own "past" and kill "yourself" and you would not be affected.

Supposedly various Black Ops projects in the US MIC have developed time travel (see Philadelphia experiment and Montauk projects) and used it extensively to try and change the current timeline to their advantage (but without success). Also there appears to be a future moment (around 2016-2018) beyond which time travel and remote viewing is not possible. This is "The Event" (divine intervention) where our timelines diverge depending on our polarity (see "Law of One"). Some people in the black ops traveled to future timelines that were faked by high-level ETs to confuse the black ops (see links below).

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/montauk/esp_montauk_17.htm

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/montauk/esp_montauk_0.htm

[Mageant]

How about Mind control techniques & technology?

There is a whole range of mind control techniques and technology.

To differentiate, there are two different groups of techniques one for mass control and one for individual control of a person.

Mass control:
This includes conventional "propaganda" and disinformation. Much of this was pioneering by Edward Bernays who was a scholar of Sigmund Freud.
These is also "subliminal advertising" which has been known for a long time. It has even been used in ancient artwork. Images, text or sounds are produced which are just below the threshold of conscious recognition by an observer. These images/texts/sounds then go into the unconscious mind of the observer and then resurface later as thoughts which to the observer seem to come from himself. Thus thinking these are his own thoughts he is more likely to agree with them or act upon them.
Since everything is vibrations, it is also possible to emit radiation of certain wavelengths which induce certain effects on the population. This is used by HAARP in combination with chemtrails. Also chemtrails are used with certain chemtrails also to achieve certain mind-controlling effects.

Please note that as the Earth continues to increase in frequency as we approach the upcoming "Event" all mass mind control techniques are becoming less and less effective. The Cabal is quite disturbed by this.

Individual control:
The oldest form of mind control of an individual is the so-called "trauma-based mind control". Basically you somehow cause such extreme fear in a person (for example by torture) so that the mind then shuts down and "splits off" the memory (section of the brain) of this event. This is normally a self-preservative reaction of the body to maintain the person's sanity of mind. The problem is that the person's mind is now split into two personalities. One that remembers the event and one that does not. With certain triggers you can reactivate the personality that remembers the event and hypnotize/manipulate/form that person. That "split off" personality may do things the normal person would never do, so as a murder. This is for example used to create assassins that do not remember what they have done after the fact (Manchurian candidates). This form of mind control is very old and has been used by secret societies for ages.

There are more modern individual mind control techniques too. Much of this was researched in the project named MKULTRA. Apparently they also have chips (which can be very tiny) then when implanted into a person can control them. They plan to put these into vaccinations and thus put them into the population. That is why they push the need for vaccinations so much, also try to make people accept chip implants.

The positive ETs are thwarting all such plans now though.

[Mageant]

What are your thoughts on confirmation bias and filter bubbles?

Most people I know who are into this sort of thing get all their info from questionable sources, and don't seem to understand that search algorithms are returning them to these sources time and time again. They also don't seem to know how to "validate" sources; i.e. they think the information on a 20 year old geocities page which has numerous spelling and grammar errors and no sources, is more valid than a Reuters news article.

I've tried to get them to understand that this is wrong, but they just get angry. My follow up question is, how do you approach someone who believes in a truly ridiculous conspiracy theory and get them to see sense?

It's possible there is a lot of confirmation bias, but on the other hand that is one of the common arguments used by disinfo agents of the Cabal to steer people away from conspiracy theories.

Holding "high standards" to sources is reasonable, but the problem is that the so-called good sources, that are usually part of mainstream media or science are highly compromised by the Cabal. IMHO they can actually be trusted less than the so-called alternative media.

To figure out if a conspiracy theory is truly ridiculous I check the internal logical consistency and see if it fits into the general picture.

So basically, you can only rely on your intuition.

[Mageant]

Please elaborate on SSPs.

Governments (especially the US) have been secretly creating a secret space program (SSP) since about the 1930s, starting with Nazi Germany and then followed by the USA. This is where most of the money for "black projects" and "government waste" has been going.

They have been developing and using technology that is far, far advanced from what NASA, ESA and the like are using. It's sort of like in the TV series "Stargate" if you have every watched that (but even more than that).

According to the latest reports from David Wilcock and "Corey" there are actually now several SSPs: "Solar Warden" (started in the 1980s), ICC (a corporate space program), a "league of nations" type of program with participants from many nations, and the "Dark Fleet" (remnants of the Nazi SSP that is now allied with "negative" ETs). The ICC and Dark Fleet SSPs are under control of the Cabal/Illuminati. There are also some Ancient Earth SSPs (Ancient Mayans and Agartha underground network).

There are bases on the moon, Mars and numerous other places in the solar system. It is estimated that there are millions of people now living off-world. Many of these people were tricked or captured into these programs and are now "enslaved".

These SSPs are also often called "breakaway civilizations" because their technology is so far advanced now that it can be considered a different civilization. Estimates are that the technology they have is hundreds or thousands of years ahead of our current technology. They can basically do nearly everything you have seen in Sci-Fi movies.


I haven't come a definite conclusion if the moon landings were faked or not. They did have the secret technology to go to the Moon at the time, but they might have faked them anyway just to confuse people (they like doing that).

You can find more infos on SSPs here:

http://exopolitics.org/whistleblower-reveals-multiple-secret-space-programs-concerned-about-new-alien-visitors/

http://exopolitics.org/secret-space-programs-more-complex-than-previously-revealed/

http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1178-ssp-exposure

[Mageant]

What do you think of "the hill" alien abduction?

Sorry, I don't know that specific case.

I think - like all UFO phenomena - that some alien abduction cases are imaginary, some faked and some real. Some of the faked ones are faked by black ops of the Cabal. There are probably a few cases that are real, but probably a lot less than the total number of cases.

Supposedly there was one ET group that needed our DNA to create hybrids to save their own species (because their DNA was deteriorating). These are the YahYel (see "Bashar" material by Darryl Anka) and supposedly the operation was successful (and they are thankful for that, which is why they are channeling info as "Bashar").

[Mageant]

Lost civilizations (true history of Earth)

Atlantis was an advanced civilization (actually a series of civilizations) on Earth from roughly 100,000 BC to 10,000 BC. It ended through a big calamity. It's not clear to me what calamity exactly ended the final version. It could have been a pole shift, deluge or nuclear war. It's also possible that there were multiple calamities.

Technologically Atlantis was at least as advanced as our civilization today, probably even more so. They most certainly had more spiritual knowledge. They used pyramids and crystals for example. They also had contact with ETs and probably space travel. The Atlantean civilization was world-wide power much like Western civilization today. So it had colonies all over the world. I'm not certain where its center of power was, but Antarctica seems to be a likely candidate. During Atlantean times the sea levels were a lot lower, too, so many of the cities from that time got submerged when sea levels rose.

The Atlantean civilization had rival civilizations like Lemuria, Hyperborea and Vedic India which it fought wars against.

Intially Atlantis was vey light/positive oriented but then got gradually more corrupted over thousands of years. In the later stages it was very corrupt, which basically caused its downfall.

The idea of using pyramids for power is very old and goes back to the Atlantean/Lemurian ages at least. The ancient Egyptians did not figure this out for themselves. It was handed down to them. Egypt inherited namely much of the Atlantean civilization/knowledge. This knowledge was preserved mostly in the Egyptian mystery schools, which unfortunately were hijacked by the Cabal (negative ETs). Other ETs tried to give positive teachings to the ancient Egyptians but these teachings unfortunately became perverted, too.

Sound technology is also one of those ancient arts that are lost now but were known during Atlantean times. Sound technology can be used to levitate very larges stones, for example. Tibetan monks have used this technique for example:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/antigravityworldgrid/ciencia_antigravityworldgrid08.htm

Atlantis was supposedly preceded by the Lemuria civilization by several hundred thousands of years. It was centered somewhere in or around the Pacific. There is a lot less information on Lemuria than on Atlantis though. It appears that Lemuria was even more light-oriented that Atlantis initially was.

[Mageant]

UFO phenomena / ETs

The UFO phenomenon is very old and goes back hundreds, if not thousands of years. Many of the reported events are in fact IMHO genuine (though not necessarily all).

Many of the UFOs are highly advanced craft of various secret black ops of the Cabal inside the US government and defense industry.

There also genuine ETs craft sightings though, too. Often the ETs want to "wake up" people by showing themselves. They must do this in an ambiguous way though, so that we don't have to believe it. This is the result of something similar to the Prime Directive of Star Trek which they must follow (if they are a positively oriented civilization). That is, they must respect our free will and give us the possibility to reasonably deny the existence of ETs.

As for evidence regarding this subject:

For me it's my personal experiences seeing UFOs, especially at a ET/UFO contact meeting with Dr. Greer at Mt. Shasta in 2008. I saw various lights in the sky and near the ground (orbs in the trees), that could not be explained conventionally. One of the participants also managed to photograph a craft (so I knew first hand the source of the photo).

From a general viewpoint I cannot really point to a single piece of evidence. It's mostly the overwhelming mass of credible reports and witnesses. It is not credible to me that 100% of these thousands of reports are fake or mistaken.

If I had to pick something though, I would say the reports of material evidence (out-of-place artifacts, Atacama humanoid), the official release of UFO files by various governments and the appearance of UFOs in ancient art, old photographs (before computer-generated graphics were possible) and NASA live feeds.

Although I was already quite convinced by the first cases I ever studied in depth, namely the Billie Meier and Bob Lazar cases.

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The Universe is full of life and advanced civilizations. Basically, everywhere where life is possible, there is life (even in very strange forms, such as sentient gas on gas giant planets). On planets where life is not possible there are very often bases of advanced civilizations (usually underground).

Earth has been visited by ETs for millions of years. Some say that humans also originated from someplace other than Earth ("Lyra" is one such possibility).

In our Galaxy there are supposedly thousands of advanced (spacefaring) civilizations. The black oops who are researching and have contact with ETs know of about 50 types (perhaps more) which have been visiting the Solar System.

The way evolution works is that on each planet that can bear a lot of advanced species there is usually one that becomes sentient and thus dominant. The species on other planets have often many similarities with animals on our planet (fish, birds, reptiles, mammals). The sentient species usually evolves in such a way that it develops a humanoid body (2 arms, 2 legs, standing upright) but retains the original head. Thus you have many humanoid types of  beings, such as bird-people, dog-people, lizard-people, even fish-people, etc. Many ETs though are very similar to humans. Some are so similar in fact that you could not recognize them as ET if you met them on the street.

About 95% of ET civilizations are positive (light-oriented, or "service to other") and the remainder are negative ("service to self"). Some negative ETs (so-called "Dracos") are at the top of the hierarchy of the Cabal that controls Earth.

[notbatman]

How about time travel, any thoughts on that? (again sorry if it's not listed)

Time travel is possible. Apparently it works by the "many worlds" interpretation of Quantum Physics. So when you travel into the past, you don't actually travel into the past of your own Universe, but to a parallel reality that may be very similar to yours. So you could travel into your own "past" and kill yourself and you would not be affected.

Supposedly various Black Ops projects in the US MIC have developed time travel (see Philadelphia experiment and Montauk projects) and used it extensively to try and change the current timeline to their advantage (but without success). Also there appears to be a future moment (around 2016-2018) beyond which time travel and remote viewing is not possible. This is "The Event" (divine intervention) where our timelines diverge depending on our polarity (see "Law of One"). Some people in the black ops traveled to future timelines that were faked by high-level ETs to confuse the black ops (see links below).

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/montauk/esp_montauk_17.htm

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/montauk/esp_montauk_0.htm

In this "many worlds" interpretation as an explanation for time travel could it be possible that one of the worlds is flat? Keep in mind that Globe Earth Theory is just that, a theory that fits the observable facts but, it is practically impossible to prove. Flat Earth Theory on the other hand also fits the observable facts and is easily proven with experiments such as the Bedford Level Experiment and more.

My question is that if one were to "time travel" to a flat earth parallel universe, would noticing geographical changes such as the location of New Zealand in relation to Australia be confirmation of ones location? Or would inconsistencies in memory simply be a byproduct of black ops mind control operations modifying maps for the globe earth hoax as this universe also has a flat earth?

Also the fact that "Jiffy" peanut butter is now called called "Jif" is proof IMO of black ops time travel. Most people (correct me if I'm wrong) remember tubs of Jiffy and Jiffy is also a unit of measurement for time equaling 1/100 of a second. "fy" gone in the blink of an eye or a Jiffy in this case.

[Lauda]

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The idea of using pyramids for power is very old and goes back to the Atlantean/Lemurian ages at least. The ancient Egyptians did not figure this out for themselves. It was handed down to them. Egypt inherited namely much of the Atlantean civilization/knowledge. This knowledge was preserved mostly in the Egyptian mystery schools, which unfortunately were hijacked by the Cabal (negative ETs). Other ETs tried to give positive teachings to the ancient Egyptians but these teachings unfortunately became perverted, too.

Sound technology is also one of those ancient arts that are lost now but were known during Atlantean times. Sound technology can be used to levitate very larges stones, for example. Tibetan monks have used this technique for example:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/antigravityworldgrid/ciencia_antigravityworldgrid08.htm

Atlantis was supposedly preceded by the Lemuria civilization by several hundred thousands of years. It was centered somewhere in or around the Pacific. There is a lot less information on Lemuria than on Atlantis though. It appears that Lemuria was even more light-oriented that Atlantis initially was.

I'm just going to 'snip' each post while answering to it to make it more readable.
Anyhow I was always intrigued by Atlantis myself and have done only a small amount of research on the subject. I'm pretty sure that Atlantis was mentioned in quite a few shows and movies such as Stargate Atlantis.
There is more than enough evidence that pyramids were used to transfer energy or that they had some similar function.
You can actually test the energy yourself if you can get to some of those sites.
http://humansarefree.com/2013/10/pyramids-are-beaming-energy-worldwide.html

Aside from being mentioned in some text there is no concrete evidence of Atlantis, right?

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The Universe is full of life and advanced civilizations. Basically, everywhere where life is possible, there is life (even in very strange forms, such as sentient gas on gas giant planets). On planets where life is not possible there are very often bases of advanced civilizations (usually underground).

Earth has been visited by ETs for millions of years. Some say that humans also originated from someplace other than Earth ("Lyra" is one such possibility).

In our Galaxy there are supposedly thousands of advanced (spacefaring) civilizations. The black oops who are researching and have contact with ETs know of about 50 types (perhaps more) which have been visiting the Solar System.

The way evolution works is that on each planet that can bear a lot of advanced species there is usually one that becomes sentient and thus dominant. The species on other planets have often many similarities with animals on our planet (fish, birds, reptiles, mammals). The sentient species usually evolves in such a way that it develops a humanoid body (2 arms, 2 legs, standing upright) but retains the original head. Thus you have many humanoid types of  beings, such as bird-people, dog-people, lizard-people, even fish-people, etc. Many ETs though are very similar to humans. Some are so similar in fact that you could not recognize them as ET if you met them on the street.

About 95% of ET civilizations are positive (light-oriented, or "service to other") and the remainder are negative ("service to self"). Some negative ETs (so-called "Dracos") are at the top of the hierarchy of the Cabal that controls Earth.

Well I had my doubts because quite some of the footage that I found was fake. However the majority believe that UFOs = aliens, which they don't. They are just unidentified flying objects. I've had 2 encounters of such things while watching the sky. Can you provide us with the photograph of the craft?
Aside from this being theoretical is there any evidence of such ETs?

[protokol]

How about Mind control techniques & technology?

Since everything is vibrations, it is also possible to emit radiation of certain wavelengths which induce certain effects on the population. This is used by HAARP in combination with chemtrails. Also chemtrails are used with certain chemtrails also to achieve certain mind-controlling effects.

Please note that as the Earth continues to increase in frequency as we approach the upcoming "Event" all mass mind control techniques are becoming less and less effective. The Cabal is quite disturbed by this.

Can you explain exactly how this is possible in detail, both the radiation based mind control and the Earth increasing in frequency. Because I think the idea is preposterous.

First, we need to distinguish between atomic/molecular vibration and natural resonance. Now, all atoms/molecules vibrate (unless they're at absolute zero), but they vibrate at incredibly high frequencies - around 1*10^13 Hz (10 trillion Hz). A change in temperature causes this frequency to increase or decrease: More energy in = higher frequency and hotter, more energy out = lower frequency and colder. It is possible to influence these vibrations with radiation (like in a microwave) but we can still only make things hotter or colder. Please explain we can can "induce certain effects on the population" with radiation (other than cooking everyone's brain, which technically could be possible but isn't really mind control)?

Natural resonance is where solid objects (normally macroscopic) prefer to vibrate at certain frequencies, like the string of a guitar. The larger the object, the lower the natural resonant frequency. Macroscopic objects vibrate at frequencies in a much lower range than atoms/molecules, maybe 1-1,000,000 Hz. We can make an object vibrate by emitting its resonant frequency (eg when an opera singer breaks a glass by singing really loud at the glass's resonant frequency, probably in the range of 1 KHz).

When you say the Earth is increasing in frequency, do you mean that the molecules that it consists of are vibrating faster? That would make everything much much hotter and we don't see that happening, you would also need a radiation device the size of a planet to do it.

Do you mean its natural resonant frequency is increasing/being influenced? I don't know how this could work as the whole Earth would vibrate incredibly slowly, even the Schumann Resonance frequency is low at 7.83 Hz, and this isn't the Earth vibrating, it's electromagnetic waves bouncing between the surface of the Earth and the atmosphere. Also frequencies as low as this have minimal effect on us humans.

A detailed explanation would be great, thanks.

[Paiktor Poulakiou]

Von Braun: Illuminati Plan For E.T. Deception

http://www.henrymakow.com/von_braun_beware_fake_alien_th.html