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June 07, 2015, 04:52:32 PM
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Recep Tayyip Erdogan has been accused of squandering state resources when he was prime minister by building the 1,150-room palace.

Turkey's president has defended the controversial construction of a grandiose new presidential palace, saying his old office was infested with cockroaches.

Recep Tayyip Erdogan has been accused of squandering state resources when he was prime minister by building the 1,150-room palace, which critics say was illegally built on protected land. In the run-up to Sunday's parliamentary elections, opposition parties have criticized the expenditure.

Erdogan moved into the vast structure after he was elected president in August. The former presidential palace was given to the prime minister.

In a television interview late Friday, Erdogan said cockroaches had roamed the lavatories in the now-vacated prime ministry.

He said: "Does such an office suit the prime minister of the Republic of Turkey? There can be no question of waste where representation is concerned."

http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/1.659889

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June 07, 2015, 05:49:51 PM
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He said: "Does such an office suit the prime minister of the Republic of Turkey? There can be no question of waste where representation is concerned."

http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/1.659889

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June 07, 2015, 06:19:07 PM
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Hmm.. I was about to put up a thread on the Turkish parliamentary elections. Then I noticed this thread.  Grin

Recep Tayyip Erdoğan's party has lost its majority in the parliament. His Islamist party (AKP) has managed to secure only 42% of the votes. The AKP will be having 263 out of 550 seats in the new parliament. And for the first time, a Kurdish party (HDP) has managed to cross the 10% threshold. The chances are that the fight against ISIS will be strengthened as a result.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33042284
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June 07, 2015, 06:25:21 PM
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Hope the Kurds can influence the border controls in Turkey, they've stopped many of the kurds travelling across to fight ISIS but done nothing to stop the ISIS fighters, if there's at least a more moderate group in charge then there might be a chance to turn the whole war against ISIS around without the U.S.
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June 07, 2015, 06:43:57 PM
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Hope the Kurds can influence the border controls in Turkey, they've stopped many of the kurds travelling across to fight ISIS but done nothing to stop the ISIS fighters, if there's at least a more moderate group in charge then there might be a chance to turn the whole war against ISIS around without the U.S.

It seems a little late by now. The U.S. is still massively supplying ISIS with armaments through the totally useless Iraqi U.S.-trained military.

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June 07, 2015, 06:47:55 PM
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Hope the Kurds can influence the border controls in Turkey, they've stopped many of the kurds travelling across to fight ISIS but done nothing to stop the ISIS fighters, if there's at least a more moderate group in charge then there might be a chance to turn the whole war against ISIS around without the U.S.

It seems a little late by now. The U.S. is still massively supplying ISIS with armaments through the totally useless Iraqi U.S.-trained military.

Don't underestimate the Peshmerga Wink They're holding they're own with the U.S airstrikes, if they're not interfered with the kurds could easily take out ISIS even with the weaponry, the problem lots of countries including the U.S have shat on the Kurds diplomatically which has made getting weaponry and supplies difficult.
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June 07, 2015, 07:16:28 PM
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Hope the Kurds can influence the border controls in Turkey, they've stopped many of the kurds travelling across to fight ISIS but done nothing to stop the ISIS fighters, if there's at least a more moderate group in charge then there might be a chance to turn the whole war against ISIS around without the U.S.

It seems a little late by now. The U.S. is still massively supplying ISIS with armaments through the totally useless Iraqi U.S.-trained military.

Don't underestimate the Peshmerga Wink They're holding they're own with the U.S airstrikes, if they're not interfered with the kurds could easily take out ISIS even with the weaponry, the problem lots of countries including the U.S have shat on the Kurds diplomatically which has made getting weaponry and supplies difficult.

Well, the U.S. has supplied ISIS with literally thousands of Humvees which are of course excellent for suicide bomb attacks. And they´re still desperately shipping even more Humvees and other materiel over for the Iraqi army to hand over to ISIS. There is literally no defense against multiple such car bombs. The Kurds have like a 500-mile front to defend and have only outdated weapons and dwindling stocks of ammunition. Suicide blitz by ISIS, their usual tactics, they break through and then the whole line folds.


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June 08, 2015, 01:55:36 AM
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Don't underestimate the Peshmerga Wink They're holding they're own with the U.S airstrikes, if they're not interfered with the kurds could easily take out ISIS even with the weaponry, the problem lots of countries including the U.S have shat on the Kurds diplomatically which has made getting weaponry and supplies difficult.

Peshmerga is the only anti-ISIS force which is not lacking motivation right now. But their light machine guns and grenades are no match for the heavy machinery and armored personnel carriers (APC) used by the ISIS. Erdoğan has made it sure that no meaningful weapon supplies are given to the Kurds. At the present situation, the Peshmerga will be able to hold their line at the most. They won't be able to advance.
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June 08, 2015, 03:16:23 AM
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That's why if the U.S stop fucking around then ISIS will lose, when even the CIA say that arming these various rebel groups never works you know somethings up, this is actually pretty much a working example of how non-interventionism is actually a good thing.
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June 08, 2015, 05:22:08 PM
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Lira Falls to Record Amid Stock Rout as AK Party Loses Majority

by Constantine Courcoulas

June 7, 2015 — 9:18 PM GMT Updated on June 8, 2015 — 3:11 PM GMT

Turkey’s lira weakened to an all-time low and stocks plunged after voters denied the ruling AK Party a majority government for the first time since 2002.
The currency tumbled as much as 5.2 percent and the benchmark stock index dropped the most in two years. The ruling Justice and Development Party, or AK Party, won 40.9 percent of the vote, giving it 258 seats in parliament, according to preliminary results from the state-run news agency. It needed 276 to form a single-party government.
The pro-Kurdish Peoples’ Democracy Party, or HDP, passed the 10 percent threshold of the national vote needed to win seats in parliament. The AK Party’s loss of its majority raises the prospect of a coalition and conflict with President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. If a new government can’t be agreed upon within 45 days, the country may have to hold elections again. The results also mean the party won’t be able to deliver its key campaign promise of formally shifting the nation’s center of executive power from parliament to the president.
It’s an “eye-catching” slide in Turkish assets, Gulsen Ayaz, the director of institutional sales at Deniz Yatirim in Istanbul, said by e-mail. “The election results ruled out one of the most feared scenarios -- the executive presidency -- but it didn’t rule out early elections. Nobody can rule out central bank intervention and possibly a rate hike if this trend continues.”
The lira declined to a record 2.8096 per dollar before trading 3.5 percent weaker at 2.7668 at 5:41 p.m. in Istanbul. The Borsa Istanbul 100 Index slid 5.1 percent, after sinking 8.2 percent at the open of trading. The yield on the 10-year government bond jumped 40 basis points to 9.72 percent, the highest since October 2014 on a closing basis.
Repeat Election
Turkey’s five-year credit-default swaps, a measure of the country’s debt risk, climbed 13 basis points to 233, the biggest increase since December.
All three major opposition parties have rejected the idea of a coalition with the AK Party, leaving the formation of a new government in doubt and raising the prospect of a repeat election. It’s important that political parties act responsibly to preserve a climate of stability, confidence and democratic gains, Erdogan said in an e-mailed statement today.
“The current hung parliament will probably be viewed by the market as the worst outcome of the June 7 elections, and probably hit lira assets for some time to come,” Sertan Kargin, the chief economist at Eczacibasi Securities in Istanbul, said in an e-mailed note.
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The AK Party can also form a minority government by forging ad hoc alliances to win specific votes, or persuading other parties to agree not to topple it even if they don’t want to join a coalition. While a minority administration is “the most likely scenario,” it would probably lead to another election within approximately 18 months, Credit Suisse Group AG said in a report Sunday.
The central bank lowered the rate it charges banks to borrow foreign currency because of “recent global and local developments,” according to a statement on its website today. It cut the rate for dollar funding to 3.5 percent from 4 percent and for euros to 1.5 percent from 2 percent.
While the move has no material impact on liquidity, the central bank is showing the market it stands ready to act “in the midst of turbulence,” Ozlem Derici, an economist at Deniz Investment in Istanbul, said in an e-mailed note.
The Turkish lira’s one-month implied volatility climbed to 18.3 percent, the highest since January 2014, when the central bank more than doubled its benchmark one-week repurchase rate to stem a decline in the lira.
Policy makers left the one-week repurchase rate unchanged at 7.5 percent for a third month in May after lowering it by 250 basis points since the emergency increase last year.
Stocks Tumble
Turkiye Garanti Bankasi AS, the nation’s largest listed lender, slid the most in almost six months, retreating 7.5 percent, and Akbank TAS, the second-largest, fell to a three-month low. The Borsa Istanbul’s 14-day relative strength index fell to 32.2, the lowest since March and approaching the 30-level that signals to some technical analysts a security is oversold.
As stocks tumbled, some shares had their biggest gains in weeks. Koza Altin Isletmeleri AS jumped 7.6 percent. The gold miner’s shares have been battered over the past two years in part because of its association with Islamic cleric Fethullah Gulen, whom Erdogan accuses of being behind a “parallel state” in Turkey. Sister company Ipek Dogal Enerji Kaynaklari AS jumped 8.6 percent and Koza Anadolu Metal Madencilik Isletmeleri AS, owned by Ipek, climbed 11 percent.
Slowing growth
Turkey’s currency has weakened more than 15 percent against the dollar this year, the most among 24 emerging market currencies tracked by Bloomberg. The lira dropped to a record 2.9629 against an equally weighted basket of dollars and euros.
Turkey’s annual economic growth, which averaged 5 percent under the AK Party’s rule, fell to almost half that rate last year and is set to increase to 3.2 percent in 2015. Unemployment is near a six-year high and inflation has stayed above the central bank’s target since 2011.
“Many investors were still hoping for a single-party government,” Ozgur Altug, the chief economist at BGC Partners in Istanbul, said by e-mail on Sunday. “Coalition talks or early election speculation will determine the trend in financial markets” and until investors see more clarity, markets will remain weak, he said.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-07/lira-falls-to-record-as-turkey-voters-end-ak-s-single-party-era

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June 08, 2015, 06:02:47 PM
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I am afraid that the situation is about to get worse for the Kurds. If Recep Tayyip Erdoğan's AKP forms an alliance with the rabidly anti-Kurdish MHP (which seems to be the most viable coalition right now), then we can expect more anti-Kurdish military action from the Turks. The MHP is nominally secular, unlike the Islamist AKP. But they consider the Kurds as their mortal enemies, and they might be ready to support the ISIS in order to defeat the Kurds.
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June 08, 2015, 06:08:27 PM
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2012 Defense Intelligence Agency document: West will facilitate rise of Islamic State “in order to isolate the Syrian regime”

http://levantreport.com/2015/05/19/2012-defense-intelligence-agency-document-west-will-facilitate-rise-of-islamic-state-in-order-to-isolate-the-syrian-regime/

I guess a side benefit for the Turks was ISIS dealing with the Kurds.

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October 29, 2015, 08:49:27 PM
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Turkish media are coming under what local journalists have described as one of the worst crackdowns in the republic’s history in the run-up to crucial parliamentary elections that may put an end to over a decade of single-party rule by President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan’s Justice and Development party (AKP).
Journalists critical of Erdoğan or government policies have been fired from newspapers seen as close to the president and even assaulted, while offices of pro-opposition media outlets have been raided in what observers say is a broad campaign to intimidate voices demanding change and accountability in Ankara.

“It’s the biggest crackdown on press in Turkish history,” said Tarık Toros, the editor-in-chief of the television station Bugün, which on Wednesday was taken off the air by security officers during a raid, with Toros taking refuge in the station’s control room before being forced out by police.

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October 30, 2015, 10:33:47 AM
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Teenagers face 4 years in prison for ripping up posters of Turkish president

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Two Turkish boys, aged 12 and 13, could spend four years behind bars for "insulting" President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Prosecutors accuse them of ripping up posters of the Turkish leader, while the boys’ lawyer says the charges themselves violate the law.
“There was no premeditation to insult the president. Also, they were unaware the face on the banners was the president himself,” Ismail Korkmaz, the teenagers’ lawyer, told RT.

The kids themselves say they just wanted to sell the paper.

“Tearing a banner is just a minor offence and should be subject to the law of misdemeanor, but even that law prohibits the punishment of children under 15 years old,” the lawyer said.

READ MORE: Turkey's 'cleansing of traitors' will continue if Erdogan gets majority

Korkmaz told RT the defense has a psychiatric report stating “these children have no ability of discernment, perception of legal meaning, consequences of the offence, or control of their behavior.”

Despite this, the prosecution went ahead with the indictment, which was accepted by the court, said the lawyer.

Turkey has witnessed a number of anti-government protests in recent days. Ankara's decision to pull the plug on two television stations linked to President Erdogan's political rivals triggered rallies in Istanbul.

The Turkish government’s crackdown on opposition media is gaining momentum on the eve of the general election slated for November 1.

On Thursday, two newspapers linked to the stations failed to appear on newsstands.

The internet activities of the opposition are suppressed with an iron fist and without a second thought. Re-tweeting of opposition statements or disputing the president in social networks could result in detention. In January, ex-Miss Turkey Merve Buyuksarac was arrested for posting a satirical poem that criticized Erdogan.

READ MORE: Human rights abuse rampant in Turkey – British lawyers

“Lately, the head of state has a more autocratic and totalitarian way of governing. He can’t handle any critics,” Ismail Korkmaz told RT.

Referring to the teenagers’ case, the lawyer said that after Erdogan was elected president, many people have been charged with insulting the national leader, and have been prosecuted and punished.

“Nowadays, the judiciary has a broad interpretation of this article. Even casual criticism within the framework of freedom of expression is being considered an insult, and become part of these trials,” Korkmaz said.

https://www.rt.com/news/320124-teenagers-posters-erdogan-jail/

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October 30, 2015, 12:18:38 PM
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"saying his old office was infested with cockroaches."
Well to be honest, they are the only company that understood you anyway Erdogen. I bet deep down, you are going to miss their company

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November 24, 2015, 05:16:11 PM
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Putin calls Turkey 'accomplices of terrorists' after Russian jet shot down - live updates

Russian plane 'acting against militants originating from Russia'

More from the Russian defence ministry, which follows Putin’s comments (see 13.02) that the Russian jet was taking action against militants originally from Russia.

“The Russian operations were against illegal terrorist formations mainly made up of fighters from Russia’s North Caucasus region… Attempts by Russian defence ministry specialists to make emergency contact with their Turkish counterparts were unsuccessful… The ministry is currently working out a range of measures to react to this kind of incident… Military operations against terrorists in Syria will continue.”

http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/nov/24/russian-jet-downed-by-turkish-planes-near-syrian-border-live-updates

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^^^^ During the past 4-5 days, the Russian jets destroyed more than 1,000 ISIS crude oil trucks, carrying oil from Raqqah to Turkey. Turkey lost millions of $$$ in profits, and this was one of the reasons why Erdogan decided to shoot down the Russian aircraft. Also, Turkish Islamist groups in Syria were getting their asses kicked by the Russians and the regime forces.
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November 25, 2015, 09:40:19 AM
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Recap: Newly-Declassified U.S. Government Documents: The West Supported the Creation of ISIS

The documents were written by the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency on August 12, 2012

https://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Pg.-291-Pgs.-287-293-JW-v-DOD-and-State-14-812-DOD-Release-2015-04-10-final-version11.pdf

AQI= al Queda in Iraq, ISIS is basically a revamping of that




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24.08.2015 Author: F. William Engdahl

Erdogan’s Dirty Dangerous ISIS Games

Turkey is a beautiful land, rich in resources, with many highly intelligent and warm people. It also happens to have a President who seems intent on destroying his once-proud nation. More and more details are coming to light revealing that the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, variously known as ISIS, IS or Daesh, is being fed and kept alive by Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, the Turkish President and by his Turkish intelligence service, including MIT, the Turkish CIA. Turkey, as a result of Erdoğan’s pursuit of what some call a Neo-Ottoman Empire fantasies that stretch all the way to China, Syria and Iraq, threatens not only to destroy Turkey but much of the Middle East if he continues on his present path.

In October 2014 US Vice President Joe Biden told a Harvard gathering that Erdoğan’s regime was backing ISIS with “hundreds of millions of dollars and thousands of tons of weapons…” Biden later apologized clearly for tactical reasons to get Erdoğan’s permission to use Turkey’s Incirlik Air Base for airstrikes against ISIS in Syria, but the dimensions of Erdoğan’s backing for ISIS since revealed is far, far more than Biden hinted.

ISIS militants were trained by US, Israeli and now it emerges, by Turkish special forces at secret bases in Konya Province inside the Turkish border to Syria, over the past three years. Erdoğan’s involvement in ISIS goes much deeper. At a time when Washington, Saudi Arabia and even Qatar appear to have cut off their support for ISIS, they remaining amazingly durable. The reason appears to be the scale of the backing from Erdoğan and his fellow neo-Ottoman Sunni Islam Prime Minister, Ahmet Davutoğlu.

Nice Family Business

The prime source of money feeding ISIS these days is sale of Iraqi oil from the Mosul region oilfields where they maintain a stronghold. The son of Erdoğan it seems is the man who makes the export sales of ISIS-controlled oil possible.

Bilal Erdoğan owns several maritime companies. He has allegedly signed contracts with European operating companies to carry Iraqi stolen oil to different Asian countries. The Turkish government buys Iraqi plundered oil which is being produced from the Iraqi seized oil wells. Bilal Erdoğan’s maritime companies own special wharfs in Beirut and Ceyhan ports that are transporting ISIS’ smuggled crude oil in Japan-bound oil tankers.

Gürsel Tekin vice-president of the Turkish Republican Peoples’ Party, CHP, declared in a recent Turkish media interview, “President Erdoğan claims that according to international transportation conventions there is no legal infraction concerning Bilal’s illicit activities and his son is doing an ordinary business with the registered Japanese companies, but in fact Bilal Erdoğan is up to his neck in complicity with terrorism, but as long as his father holds office he will be immune from any judicial prosecution.” Tekin adds that Bilal’s maritime company doing the oil trades for ISIS, BMZ Ltd, is “a family business and president Erdoğan’s close relatives hold shares in BMZ and they misused public funds and took illicit loans from Turkish banks.”

In addition to son Bilal’s illegal and lucrative oil trading for ISIS, Sümeyye Erdoğan, the daughter of the Turkish President apparently runs a secret hospital camp inside Turkey just over the Syrian border where Turkish army trucks daily being in scores of wounded ISIS Jihadists to be patched up and sent back to wage the bloody Jihad in Syria, according to the testimony of a nurse who was recruited to work there until it was discovered she was a member of the Alawite branch of Islam, the same as Syrian President Bashar al-Assad who Erdoğan seems hell-bent on toppling.

Turkish citizen Ramazan Başol, captured this month by Kurdish People’s Defence Units,YPG, as he attempted to join ISIS from Konya province, told his captors that said he was sent to ISIS by the ‘İsmail Ağa Sect,’ a strict Turkish Islam sect reported to be tied to Recep Erdoğan. Başol said the sect recruits members and provides logistic support to the radical Islamist organization. He added that the Sect gives jihad training in neighborhoods of Konya and sends those trained here to join ISIS gangs in Syria.

According to French geopolitical analyst, Thierry Meyssan, Recep Erdoğan “organised the pillage of Syria, dismantled all the factories in Aleppo, the economic capital, and stole the machine-tools. Similarly, he organised the theft of archeological treasures and set up an international market in Antioch…with the help of General Benoît Puga, Chief of Staff for the Elysée, he organised a false-flag operation intended to provoke the launching of a war by the Atlantic Alliance – the chemical bombing of la Ghoutta in Damascus, in August 2013. “

Meyssan claims that the Syria strategy of Erdoğan was initially secretly developed in coordination with former French Foreign Minister Alain Juppé and Erdoğan’s then Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu, in 2011, after Juppe won a hesitant Erdoğan to the idea of supporting the attack on traditional Turkish ally Syria in return for a promise of French support for Turkish membership in the EU. France later backed out, leaving Erdoğan to continue the Syrian bloodbath largely on his own using ISIS.

Gen. John R. Allen, an opponent of Obama’s Iran peace strategy, now US diplomatic envoy coordinating the coalition against the Islamic State, exceeded his authorized role after meeting with Erdoğan and “promised to create a « no-fly zone » ninety miles wide, over Syrian territory, along the whole border with Turkey, supposedly intended to help Syrian refugees fleeing from their government, but in reality to apply the « Juppé-Wright plan ». The Turkish Prime Minister, Ahmet Davutoğlu, revealed US support for the project on the TV channel A Haber by launching a bombing raid against the PKK.” Meyssan adds.

There are never winners in war and Erdoğan’s war against Syria’s Assad demonstrates that in bold. Turkey and the world deserve better. Ahmet Davutoğlu’s famous “Zero Problems With Neighbors” foreign policy has been turned into massive problems with all neighbors due to the foolish ambitions of Erdoğan and his gang.

F. William Engdahl is strategic risk consultant and lecturer, he holds a degree in politics from Princeton University and is a best-selling author on oil and geopolitics, exclusively for the online magazine “New Eastern Outlook”.

First appeared: http://journal-neo.org/2015/08/24/erdogan-s-dirty-dangerous-isis-games/

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