Saudi court upholds blogger's 10 years and 1,000 lashes

[panju1]

is always sad to read things like that, this remember me North Korea

What is it that causes this great and eternal love between the U.S. and Saudi regimes? Apart from both always being manned by certifiable fruitcakes of course. Or maybe that´s just it. It can´t be just oil.

beleive me this will never happend, U.S have other interest that being friend like you sayd, oil...

I´m curious about those thousand lashes. Probably they don´t dish that out in full in a single session or so I hope for the guy´s sake. Maybe it´s in installments, half a dozen per day something like that ?

Yes, it is in installments due to medical reasons.

Badawi received his first 50 lashes in January, but subsequent floggings have been postponed.
It is not clear why Badawi has not yet endured a second round though a medical report found he was not fit for the punishment.

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[bryant.coleman]

I´m curious about those thousand lashes. Probably they don´t dish that out in full in a single session or so I hope for the guy´s sake. Maybe it´s in installments, half a dozen per day something like that ?

If they administer all of them at once, the person will die of shock. I have read somewhere that in Iran, they never administer more than 100 lashes in a single day, as doing so can almost certainly cause death. In this case, I believe that the caning will be administered in installments of 50 each, carried out once a week. 

[galdur]

Saudi Ambassador Warns West On Iran Deal: "All Options On Table..." Including Nukes

Submitted by Tyler Durden on 06/08/2015 23:00 -0400

 
We previously warned of the risks of escalation in The Middle East to something much more dangerous, but, as the Saudi ambassador to UK confirmed today, the risk of Wahhabis going nuclear is even higher than many expected, "...if [Iran will not offer assurances it will not pursue nuclear weapons], then all options will be on the table for Saudi Arabia... Iran’s nuclear program poses a direct threat to the entire region and constitutes a major source and incentive for nuclear proliferation across the Middle East, including Israel."

 

Saudi Arabia is ready to acquire nuclear weapons if diplomatic talks aimed at halting Iran’s nuclear ambitions break down, the Saudi ambassador to the UK has said. As RT reports,

Prince Mohammed bin Nawwaf bin Abdulaziz al-Saud said the oil-rich Gulf kingdom hoped negotiations being led by US President Barack Obama would result in a “watertight” deal with Iran.
 
However if does not happen, then “all options are on the table,” he said.
 
...
 
Prince Mohammad told The Telegraph: “We have always expressed our support for resolving the Iranian nuclear file in a diplomatic way and through negotiation.”
 
“We commend the American president’s effort in this regard, provided that any deal reached is watertight and is not the kind of deal that offers Iran a license to continue its destabilizing foreign policies in the region. The proof is in the pudding.”
 
The Saudi ambassador said the kingdom hopes Iran will offer assurances it will not pursue nuclear weapons.
 
“But if this does not happen, then all options will be on the table for Saudi Arabia.”
 
“Iran’s nuclear program poses a direct threat to the entire region and constitutes a major source and incentive for nuclear proliferation across the Middle East, including Israel,” he added.
 
Saudi Arabia is believed to have funded up to 60 percent of Pakistan’s nuclear program, on the condition it could buy warheads at short notice.
If the Gulf state were to activate the deal, it would see Saudi Arabia become the first nuclear power in the Arab world.

Finally, if this 'threat' were to become true... what would be the Saudi catalyst of the hair-trigger big red button of doom? This perhaps?

In Major Escalation, Yemen Rebels Fire Scud Missile Into Saudi Arabia
This won't end well...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-08/saudi-ambassador-warns-west-iran-deal-all-options-table-including-nukes

[cryptocoiner]

Saudi court upholds blogger's 10 years and 1,000 lashes

7 June 2015
 
Raif Badawi's family have warned he could die if the 1,000 lashes are carried out
Saudi Arabia's Supreme Court has upheld the sentence of 1,000 lashes and 10 years of imprisonment on blogger Raif Badawi, despite a foreign outcry.
Speaking from Canada, his wife Ensaf Haidar told the BBC she feared his punishment would start again on Friday.
Badawi was arrested in 2012 for "insulting Islam through electronic channels".
Saudi authorities sent his case for review amidst global protests, after the first round of lashes in January.
For four years Badawi ran the Liberal Saudi Network, which encouraged online debate on religious and political issues.
Ms Haidar said she had held high hopes that her husband was about to be released, but he remained less optimistic.
When they last spoke three days ago he told her not to expect him home in the near future.
She called on the countries and rights groups that had campaigned for her husband's release to mobilise once more.
Amnesty International activists held a protest demanding the release of blogger Raif Badawi in front of the Saudi Arabian embassy in Berlin on 22 May 2015
Protests were held following Badawi's first flogging by the kingdom
Badawi received his first 50 lashes in January, but subsequent floggings have been postponed.
A shaky video taken on a mobile phone showed Badawi being lashed by a member of the security forces.
The footage prompted international protests which were repeated every Friday, the scheduled day for the beatings.
In March, the kingdom expressed "surprise and dismay" at international criticism over the punishment.
At the time, the foreign ministry issued a statement saying it rejected interference in its internal affairs.
It is not clear why Badawi has not yet endured a second round though a medical report found he was not fit for the punishment.
Saudi Arabia enforces a strict version of Islamic law and does not tolerate political dissent. It has some of the highest social media usage rates in the region, and has cracked down on domestic online criticism.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-33039815

I wonder, what would ISIS do with him, if he were blogging against ISLAM on a ISIS controlled territory? Decapitated for blogging lol. =)))))))))))

[galdur]

Well, I´m not sure if the definition of those Saudi and ISIS fruitcakes of "insulting Islam" or whatever they call it is the same as mine. In fact I doubt it. But since the Saudis help fund this ISIS thing yes it´s no surprise that both seem to like beheading people a lot.

[BADecker]

Well, I´m not sure if the definition of those Saudi and ISIS fruitcakes of "insulting Islam" or whatever they call it is the same as mine. In fact I doubt it. But since the Saudis help fund this ISIS thing yes it´s no surprise that both seem to like beheading people a lot.

They probably wouldn't use a guillotine if they could afford one. But I was curious. Was the skull and crossed swords in your avatar a before or after picture? (Just joking.)

 

[Falconer]

Saudi court upholds blogger's 10 years and 1,000 lashes

7 June 2015
 
Raif Badawi's family have warned he could die if the 1,000 lashes are carried out
Saudi Arabia's Supreme Court has upheld the sentence of 1,000 lashes and 10 years of imprisonment on blogger Raif Badawi, despite a foreign outcry.
Speaking from Canada, his wife Ensaf Haidar told the BBC she feared his punishment would start again on Friday.
Badawi was arrested in 2012 for "insulting Islam through electronic channels".
Saudi authorities sent his case for review amidst global protests, after the first round of lashes in January.
For four years Badawi ran the Liberal Saudi Network, which encouraged online debate on religious and political issues.
Ms Haidar said she had held high hopes that her husband was about to be released, but he remained less optimistic.
When they last spoke three days ago he told her not to expect him home in the near future.
She called on the countries and rights groups that had campaigned for her husband's release to mobilise once more.
Amnesty International activists held a protest demanding the release of blogger Raif Badawi in front of the Saudi Arabian embassy in Berlin on 22 May 2015
Protests were held following Badawi's first flogging by the kingdom
Badawi received his first 50 lashes in January, but subsequent floggings have been postponed.
A shaky video taken on a mobile phone showed Badawi being lashed by a member of the security forces.
The footage prompted international protests which were repeated every Friday, the scheduled day for the beatings.
In March, the kingdom expressed "surprise and dismay" at international criticism over the punishment.
At the time, the foreign ministry issued a statement saying it rejected interference in its internal affairs.
It is not clear why Badawi has not yet endured a second round though a medical report found he was not fit for the punishment.
Saudi Arabia enforces a strict version of Islamic law and does not tolerate political dissent. It has some of the highest social media usage rates in the region, and has cracked down on domestic online criticism.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-33039815

I wonder, what would ISIS do with him, if he were blogging against ISLAM on a ISIS controlled territory? Decapitated for blogging lol. =)))))))))))

And I guess ISIS would recording the decapitation and show to us with warning sign 'don't underestimate us'.

Barbaric Law, without oil Saudi would be equivalent internationally to North Korea.

Surely.

[bryant.coleman]

I wonder, what would ISIS do with him, if he were blogging against ISLAM on a ISIS controlled territory? Decapitated for blogging lol. =)))))))))))

And the funny thing is that he wasn't really slandering Islam in any of his blog posts. He raised some valid questions and doubts, which were misinterpreted by the low-IQ Saudi religious police as blasphemy. And regarding the potential punishment in the ISIS held territory, I don't think this incident would have happened at all, as ISIS regards blogging as "unislamic".

[galdur]

Saudi blogger Raif Badawi awarded Sakharov human rights prize

Saudi blogger Raif Badawi, whose flogging sentence caused an outcry, has been awarded the European Parliament's Sakharov human rights prize.
Parliament President Martin Schulz urged Saudi King Salman "to free him, so he can accept the prize".
Mr Badawi is serving a 10-year sentence in Saudi Arabia for "insulting Islam" and is due to receive 1,000 lashes.
Earlier this month he won the Pen Pinter Prize for championing free speech.
The Sakharov freedom of thought prize has been awarded by the European Parliament since 1988 to individuals or organisations considered to have made a significant contribution to the struggle for human rights and democracy.
It is named after the Soviet scientist and dissident Andrei Sakharov.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34667260

[BADecker]

This is the difference between civil law and common law.

The United States, Canada, the U.K., Australia and others have common law as their base. Most other countries have civil law as their base.

Common law tends towards individual freedom. Civil law tends towards dictatorship, even if it is dictatorship by government.

My warning is for you to look into law in the United States and see how to promote common law, since at this place in time there is a lot of civil law being acted out, even in the U.S.

Any time government can take away your right to freely use marijuana, there is civil law dictatorship. Let there be freedom, and punish according to acts of harm and damage after the harm or damage has been done. If you punish before the crime is done, you have punished unjustly, because you can't tell for sure that the crime would have been done.

Learn common law and how to use it. Use the things expressed by the Preamble, the 6th, 7th, and 9th Amendments, without using these writings themselves. Learn how to use them in court.

Watch these 10 videos - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOkAHRzuiOA&list=PLHrkQxgz0mg6kUBciD-HIvTXByqjcIZ-D. If you don't have time to watch all 10, watch the last one. Very important.

[galdur]

Ashraf Fayadh: Saudi Arabia to 'sue' Twitter user describing Palestinian poet's death sentence as 'Isis-like'
'The justice ministry will sue the person who described ... the sentencing of a man to death for apostasy as being `Isis-like',' a justice ministry source claimed

Saudi Arabia will sue any Twitter user who compares the Kingdom’s recent decision to execute a poet to punishments handed down by Isis.

Ashraf Fayadh, a 35-year-old Palestinian poet, was sentenced to death for apostasy – renouncing one’s faith – by a court in Abha on 17 November, according to documents seen by Human Rights Watch.

The sentence has provoked widespread condemnation, not only from international human rights organisations but also from legions of Twitter and other social media users.

"The justice ministry will sue the person who described ... the sentencing of a man to death for apostasy as being `Isis-like'," a justice ministry source told newspaper Al-Riyadh.


The Kingdom is yet to identify the potential Twitter user, or specify a possible penalty.

"Questioning the fairness of the courts is to question the justice of the Kingdom and its judicial system based on Islamic law, which guarantees rights and ensures human dignity", the source seemingly told the pro-government newspaper.

They claimed the Kingdom’s courts would not hesitate to put on trial "any media that slandered the religious judiciary of the Kingdom". 

Isis, also known as the Islamic State, has been accused of executing as many as 10,000 people, according to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights. However, the figures are incredibly hard to verify with any degree of accuracy.

The Kingdom, a close UK ally, has executed 152 people in 2015. It is the highest number on record since 1995, according to Amnesty International.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/ashraf-fayadh-saudi-arabia-to-sue-twitter-user-describing-palestinian-poets-death-sentence-as-isis-a6749591.html

[BADecker]

Islam... what a plague to this planet.  In fact all religions have brought nothing but pain, torture and death.

Have you ever read about Islam in your life, do not talk about any religion unless you have gone through. Islam is a religion chosen by God. Islam teaches the way of practicing every day life. Do not jump on conclusion about Islam just by the way of erratic attitude of some people in Islamic community. They are humans not angels that they do not make any mistakes. However, nowhere I support Saudi Arabia the way they handle foreign relations.

Islam is the way of slavery. Islam says to convert everyone to Islam. If they don't convert after a long while, execute them. No freedom of religion there. In addition, if anyone who is Muslim converts to something else, kill him. That's Islam for you.

[galdur]

Islam... what a plague to this planet.  In fact all religions have brought nothing but pain, torture and death.

Have you ever read about Islam in your life, do not talk about any religion unless you have gone through. Islam is a religion chosen by God. Islam teaches the way of practicing every day life. Do not jump on conclusion about Islam just by the way of erratic attitude of some people in Islamic community. They are humans not angels that they do not make any mistakes. However, nowhere I support Saudi Arabia the way they handle foreign relations.

Islam is the way of slavery. Islam says to convert everyone to Islam. If they don't convert after a long while, execute them. No freedom of religion there. In addition, if anyone who is Muslim converts to something else, kill him. That's Islam for you.

Well, I guess that those screwballs in charge of Saudi Arabia and their ISIS spawn are about as representative of run of the mill Muslims as Pat Robertson and similar weirdos are of Christians.

But it´s interesting how leaders of so called democracies, people who like to paint themselves as champions of human rights, grovel at the feet of those screwballs. Of course like seeks like, which is a probably a likely explanation. And whores will do pretty much anything for money.

[spazzdla]

Should rid anyone that believes in the oppressive islam from this planet.

[galdur]

Saudi Arabia executions: Kingdom to behead 50 men convicted of terrorism offences despite Shia revolt threat
Impervious to international opinion, the desert kingdom is poised to execute more than 50 people, three of whom were under 18 when their alleged crime took place. All because of a power struggle within the ruling family



Saudi authorities appear set in the next few days to carry out a series of beheadings across the country of more than 50 men convicted of terrorism offences. Among those facing execution are three young men who were juveniles when they were arrested.

The publication earlier this week of an article in the newspaper Okaz, which has close links to the Saudi Ministry of the Interior, has convinced families of the accused and concerned human-rights organisations that the executions are imminent.

Sources have said that the plan is to behead the men in several cities across the kingdom, most likely after Friday prayers.

Already this year Saudi Arabia has carried out at least 151 beheadings but these would be the first that deal with allegations of terrorism. Last year a total of 90 were executed but none were for terrorism offences. It is believed that seven of the condemned men are Shia from the region of Al-Awamiyah in the oil-rich Eastern Province. Saudi Shia have long protested over discrimination and mistreatment by the Sunni central government.

A leading Shia cleric, Sheikh Nimr al Nimr, arrested in a shootout with security forces in 2012, is among those thought to be facing execution.

The mothers of five Shia released a letter on Wednesday alleging that their sons, three of whom were juveniles at the time of their arrest, were subjected to torture while in custody. The letter says: “We affirm that our children did not kill or wound anyone. The sentences were based on confessions extracted under torture, trials that barred them from access to defence counsel and judges that displayed bias towards the prosecution.”

Baqer al Nimr, the older brother of Ali al Nimr and a nephew of Sheikh Nimr, told The Independent his brother was 17 and a juvenile when he was detained in February 2011. “Ali is a smart kid, he likes to play football, he is a photographer. He wasn’t political, he was just asking for his rights, for the rights of the Shia.”

Saudi authorities consistently dismiss such claims.

Sevag Kechichian, Amnesty International’s researcher on the Middle East and North Africa, said: “Denials are absolutely not enough when there is clear evidence that points to the contrary.”

He called for a thorough and impartial investigation of the torture allegations: “These executions should not happen. Amnesty International is against the death penalty in all circumstances.”

Last month, the Foreign Secretary, Philip Hammond, said he did “not expect [Ali] al Nimr to be executed”, indicating the decision would be a victory for British diplomacy, after the UK was criticised for its links with the Saudi government. Campaigners have called on the British Government to take a more proactive stance in raising human rights issues with the kingdom.

A group of UN experts and the European Parliament have also urged Saudi Arabia to halt the execution of Ali al Nimr. The timing of the executions, should they be carried out, has much to do with a power struggle going on between Mohammad bin Nayef, the Interior Minister and crown prince, and Mohammad bin Salman, Minister of Defence, deputy crown prince and favoured younger son of King Salman.

For several years, the 30-year-old Mohammad bin Salman has served as his ailing father’s gatekeeper – the king is believed to be suffering from dementia. But since the king ascended to the throne in January his son has amassed vast new powers. In addition to his appointment as Defence Minister, he serves as chief of the royal court, and chairman of the Council for Economic and Development Affairs.

The Shia public will not be fooled and if the executions go ahead there will be a Shia revolt
London-based Saudi, Saad al Faqih
Saad al Faqih is a Saudi critic of the ruling family living in London. “Mohammad bin Salman has taken everything,” he said, adding: “Mohammad bin Nayef wants to make a statement. He wants to be seen as very strong by killing 52 people in one go.”

Mr Faqih says that Okaz would not have gone ahead with the article without clear guidance from the Ministry of Interior: “If Okaz published, it is authentic. They would not have been allowed to publish without the express permission of Mohammad bin Nayef.” He described the condemned men as “pawns in a political game”.

Included among those facing execution are said to be supporters of al-Qaeda and Isis. Mr Faqih believes that Mohammad bin Nayef wants to claim there is no sectarian motive to the executions by including those convicted of belonging to Sunni terrorist organisations with the Shia.

“The Shia public will not be fooled and if the executions go ahead there will be a Shia revolt,” Mr Faqih added.

Baqer al Nimr says that if his brother and the others are beheaded, he hopes there will be no violence. “We do not want to be held responsible for any blood,” he said.

For now, though, his thoughts are with his kid brother. “I taught him how to ride a bike and now he is in solitary confinement and every time they open the door he must be thinking, ‘Is now the time that they have come to kill me?’”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-executions-kingdom-to-behead-50-men-convicted-of-terrorism-offences-despite-threat-of-a6750631.html

[bryant.coleman]

Should rid anyone that believes in the oppressive islam from this planet.

I don't have a problem with them if they remain confined to their stone age kingdoms (such as Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Pakistan, Kuwait, and Qatar). But right now, the world leaders are encouraging them to migrate to the saner countries. For example, Merkel want to increase the Muslim population in Germany to 20 million by 2020 (right now it is less than 4 million).

[galdur]

Angry Protesters Ransack and Torch Saudi Embassy in Iran After Mass Execution

By VICE News

January 2, 2016 | 9:40 pm

Saudi Arabia's mass execution of 47 prisoners — including prominent Shiite cleric Nimr al-Nimr — triggered unrest across the Middle East on Saturday, particularly in Iran, where protesters stormed and ransacked the Saudi embassy in Tehran.

Photos and video footage posted on Twitter by Iranian journalist Sobhan Hassanvand showed a mob of angry demonstrators smashing windows and setting fire to the Saudi diplomatic outpost in the Iranian capital.

Related: Saudi Arabia Kicked Off the New Year With 47 Executions, Including a Top Shiite Cleric


Hassanvand later reported that police had successfully dispersed the protesters, and that firefighters were attempting to put out the fire at the embassy.

Earlier in the day, Iran's supreme leader Ali Khamenei posted a picture on his website comparing Islamic State militants to Saudi officials, suggesting that there is no difference in the way they handle their critics.

https://news.vice.com/article/angry-protesters-ransack-and-torch-saudi-embassy-in-iran-after-mass-execution

[Spendulus]

Ashraf Fayadh: Saudi Arabia to 'sue' Twitter user describing Palestinian poet's death sentence as 'Isis-like'
'The justice ministry will sue the person who described ... the sentencing of a man to death for apostasy as being `Isis-like',' a justice ministry source claimed

I don't have any problem with this.

Just describe the sentencing of the man to death for apostasy as "Islamic-like."

[bizerinm]

Nothing strange for the land like that. I remember it was in papers that they condemned a 75 old man foreigner who lived in Saudi Arabia because ha had a bottle of wine in his house on 100 leashes!! Foreigners and domestic all are exposed to their law

[bitsmichel]

Should rid anyone that believes in the oppressive islam from this planet.

I don't have a problem with them if they remain confined to their stone age kingdoms (such as Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Pakistan, Kuwait, and Qatar). But right now, the world leaders are encouraging them to migrate to the saner countries. For example, Merkel want to increase the Muslim population in Germany to 20 million by 2020 (right now it is less than 4 million).

Why do the Germans even vote for Merkel? Are they brainwashed?