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June 08, 2015, 10:11:31 PM
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https://www.linkedin.com/pub/eric-mu/15/943/b51



http://www.coindesk.com/chinese-bitcoin-exchange-okcoin-accused-faking-trading-data/



http://www.coindesk.com/author/eric-mu/

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Eric Mu is a media researcher and writer at Danwei.com. His three passions are the English language, writing and Bitcoin.



http://web.archive.org/web/20131209065005/http://www.coindesk.com/author/eric-mu/



http://web.archive.org/web/20140704222653/http://www.coindesk.com/author/eric-mu/



Perhaps it's possible that The Mandela Effect is currently in a state of flux.



All three four images above are supposedly of the same Eric Mu.

EDIT: Added a forth image: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=https://www.bikeji.com/t/1135&prev=search



This is the same Eric Mu in December, 2008: http://www.danwei.org/featured_video/the_true_story_of_a_soy_sauce.php

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June 08, 2015, 10:29:56 PM
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OK OK Gleb Gamow, I see you are hot on the trail of this Eric mu guy... I still don't really see what you think might be going on?

I'm not saying your intel is wrong or anything... its just that maybe you are "splitting hairs"

what do you suggest is going on here? Don't be afraid to make accusations... its all hypothetical at this point. What do you think "eric mu" has to gain from this article?

just because someone is hard to identify online does not guarantee they are a crook. If it did, we are all guilty, no?

I'm interested in this... dont get me wrong... if it is a scam I'd love to see it taken to task. I just need some better proof, and I'm not much of an internet detective.

reserved for interest.
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June 08, 2015, 10:45:15 PM
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https://www.linkedin.com/pub/eric-mu/15/943/b51

Here's a question I bet nobody can answer: Why didn't Eric mention danwei.com on his Linkedin page?

OK OK Gleb Gamow, I see you are hot on the trail of this Eric mu guy... I still don't really see what you think might be going on?

I'm not saying your intel is wrong or anything... its just that maybe you are "splitting hairs"

what do you suggest is going on here? Don't be afraid to make accusations... its all hypothetical at this point. What do you think "eric mu" has to gain from this article?

just because someone is hard to identify online does not guarantee they are a crook. If it did, we are all guilty, no?

I'm interested in this... dont get me wrong... if it is a scam I'd love to see it taken to task. I just need some better proof, and I'm not much of an internet detective.

reserved for interest.

I have no idea what's goin' on whether nefarious or otherwise. All I know from my findings to date is that something's not adding up.

As of March 21, 2015, Eric was still using the older-looking pic of himself(?): http://web.archive.org/web/20150321224348/http://www.coindesk.com/author/eric-mu/

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June 08, 2015, 11:40:49 PM
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Stay tuned for the smoking gun, for I'm so excited I have to go and find a goat.  Shocked

BRB ASAP!

And to think this tread got started because I felt somethin' didn't smell right due to two articles being written too well.
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First, read the following translated in broken English, with the linked page providing the original text:

https://www.bikeji.com/t/1250

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How to accomplish a mission impossible -1

Eric83 Yellow v2  · 3 months ago · 222 views · 0.56440286



About two months ago, a find I hope I can help them do say Chinese website in Australia's trading platform called Coinarch. At that time although they do have something to live, but agreed without thinking, because this happens to be my job two combined points of interest - Translation and Bitcoin. Moreover, wages are paid with bitcoins - for a Bitcoiner, this is a salute as between revolutionaries and more feel duty-bound.

The process of continuous and continuous exchange of these Australians running, gone from the strange to the familiar and then to a friend's process - finally in the 2015 Spring Festival, on our Chinese website on-line, and watch their busy month of websites appear in their When the browser window, tremendous sense of accomplishment.

But when I asked if they are willing to do the marketing job when I hesitated. First, as they know, China is a big market, but the competition here is fierce. Perhaps because of cultural factors, land rare foreign success. And everyone told me marketing Bitcoin transactions are labor-intensive and capital-intensive, nobody unable to move money.

Hesitated, I asked the next their budget.
Well, if there is hope before, then this figure I suddenly discouraged.
"We are in contact and venture capital, to change the time there!" Skype CEO Jeremy was encouraging me. Hey, if only a question of money alone.



I have to mention the background. Undergraduate read English to work in Hong Kong after reading a writing master, research is Non-fiction. Do longest job is a unit of the net. This made the creation of a South African site, mostly written blog. For five, six years later sold to the British Financial Times in 2012, can be considered a repair was immortal. The revenue would have thought pretty good job is my home, the results because the enthusiastic Bitcoin (there are other reasons) chose to leave again. Amateur Coindesk and Forbes also wrote for a while, then always is considered to be foreigners. In short, in addition to a little media experience and English media, I totally layman marketing.

But that everyone in the face of an equation it - with limited resources seeking to maximize efficiency, which is from national leaders to housewives no difference.

So now the question is necessary to solve:
The first question is in the rare cases advertising how to make such a brand before no one knows to be remembered.
Well, like the name of Qi currency bitch there?
This indeed is intentional, the effect feels good, it is said a special meeting to study our largest exchange - a big CEO personally mocked our name some.

Although we have less funding, but it is not, there is a month or so 20,000 advertising budget, but when I find a well-known Bitcoin website, because it is not a local business, there is no registered office address, the other hesitated.

Although I personally intend to make this a full-time, but has signed a four books and publishers before the entry translation contract, can not unilaterally cancel the contract - a result, in addition to money, not time.

Just as I feel powerless when a friend let me get back the emergence of a long-lost self-confidence. The resourceful friend, is said to especially good at social media marketing. Starbucks, I said: So, I put all your social media account password given to you, Australia also give the floor to you, a month, and see what it can do. The other readily agreed, but also contributed a lot of creative ideas, including microblogging buy powder, used to make underwear model number microblogging attract public attention, and so on and so on. While I think these are likely to be useless, but as a experimentalist who limits himself thinking is the greatest evil. Useful in time prove everything, we'll see.

So we coin a half-human, Psyche team sailing friends. Think ahead of us will be stormy or bibowanqing, I could not help a bit nervous, but looking back I thought, is it not these uncertainties make our life more interesting?
- To be continued

Eric Mu: eric.mu@coinarch.com

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June 09, 2015, 01:01:13 AM
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http://www.danwei.org/editorial/contributors.php



Ain't that special! A different pic of Eric Mu. I'll just add it to the other four.



http://www.chinaherald.net/2009_10_01_archive.html



https://www.flickr.com/photos/17021538@N00/2973115877



https://www.bikeji.com/t/1250 (see comments)

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Here we have Eric Mu already employed as a writer-cum-English translator years prior to when he attended University to study such as depicted on his Linkedin page. Also, as in The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Eric seems to be getting younger as time goes on.

Now, onto the criminal aspect of this exposé:

http://www.popupchinese.com/lessons/sinica/chomping-at-the-bitcoin

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After a shocking expose of Jeremy Goldkorn's criminal past, Sinica this week moves on to examine the Bitcoin phenomenon in China. Joined by Zennon Kapron, fintech expert, owner of the Shanghai consultancy Kapronasia, and recent author of the book Chomping at the Bitcoin, we delve into the driving forces behind the cryptocurrency revolution in China, as well as take a quick look at the various other kinds of innovation surfacing in China's online financial sector.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Goldkorn

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Jeremy Goldkorn (Chinese: 金玉米; Pinyin: Jĩn Yùmí; born in Johannesburg) is a South African blogger and editor who has lived in Beijing, China since 1995. He is the founder and editor of Danwei, which includes a China-focused blog and media research firm.

He graduated from the University of Cape Town with a Bachelor of Arts (Honors) in Literature. Prior to founding Danwei, he worked for several Beijing-based magazines, including Beijing Scene, TimeOut and technology magazine ReDegg, and as business development manager for Beijing design firm Standards Group.

Courtyard of the Australian Centre on China in the World, at the Australian National University
Danwei, which is named after the Chinese term for a work unit, is considered to be a well-read China-focused "bridge blog" that translates Chinese language media articles into English. John Lanchester has written that "Danwei gives a range of sources, news and opinions on China that no mainstream news organisation can match." Danwei has collaborated with the Australian Centre on China in the World at the Australian National University to archive China media articles for research purposes since 2010. Danwei has been blocked in mainland China since 2009, but Danwei now publishes at Danwei.com which operates unblocked. In early 2013, Goldkorn sold Danwei to the Financial Times but he continues to manage the company and website.

Goldkorn has spoken frequently about Chinese media and Internet culture, including at the University of Sydney and Columbia Law School, and in interviews with Frontline, the Australia Network and the Asia Society. He also regular co-hosts the Sinica current affairs podcast with Kaiser Kuo, which is recorded at the Popup Chinese studios in Beijing.

QUICK Aside: I think I found something!!!



Never mind. I think the ears are different, so, so much for that theory.  Tongue

https://twitter.com/goldkorn/status/525894744136630273


(here's the link: http://www.popupchinese.com/lessons/sinica/chomping-at-the-bitcoin)
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June 09, 2015, 02:30:46 AM
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https://twitter.com/muxiaoliang



Returns to Twitter after a three-year hiatus to inform the world of finshaggy's Bitcoin video.  Roll Eyes

I would be remiss if I didn't include a new Eric Mu pic:



Make that two new pics:



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https://twitter.com/muxiaoliang/status/416865902471032833

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Sign Up For a Free Bitcoin Wallet @ http://Blockchain.info  https://blockchain.info/wallet  #tweet4btc #bitcoin #13qGcQUxaT4WsQrRKovr2JQ9DeaAfyg9jf

https://blockchain.info/address/13qGcQUxaT4WsQrRKovr2JQ9DeaAfyg9jf

https://blockchain.info/address/17sJZCctrh8wiVy18CYRu8o6jKjBiXb28F

https://blockchain.info/tx/e4b2c7161bad7a24395db21dcda0fd707c29a8a712a17bb19cf7b6e92b458925

Very interesting tx! ^^^
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https://twitter.com/muxiaoliang/media



I can't figure out how the above coincides with https://www.walletexplorer.com/address/17sJZCctrh8wiVy18CYRu8o6jKjBiXb28F

That wallet is part of https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/HaoBTC.com
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June 09, 2015, 06:41:18 AM
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now you've lost me completely.
These guys are bloggers, the one South African guy has a translated Chinese to English blog, the Chinese guy wants to write and translate....

what is criminal? he's doing copy-writing for the wallet service mine in OP?

he has been published before attending university? no crime there...

pardon me for being confused, but i just dont see any wrong doings here. Eric is weird looking baby-man, the other guy is...well... South African

still not actually illegal. I feel like you are reading too much into this, but those bad translations give me a headache, so who knows?

I'm not going to buy any shares in their IPO either way, maybe shares in the translation blog...

wheres the post describing Jeremy's criminal past? did he pay to have it removed?

also not illegal, just unethical journalism.

maybe this has something to do with the whole mystery...http://www.danwei.com/wizard-arrested-for-raping-buddhist/
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now you've lost me completely.
These guys are bloggers, the one South African guy has a translated Chinese to English blog, the Chinese guy wants to write and translate....

what is criminal? he's doing copy-writing for the wallet service mine in OP?
Nothing criminal.

he has been published before attending university? no crime there...

pardon me for being confused, but i just dont see any wrong doings here. Eric is weird looking baby-man, the other guy is...well... South African

still not actually illegal. I feel like you are reading too much into this, but those bad translations give me a headache, so who knows?

I'm not going to buy any shares in their IPO either way, maybe shares in the translation blog...

wheres the post describing Jeremy's criminal past? did he pay to have it removed?

also not illegal, just unethical journalism.

maybe this has something to do with the whole mystery...http://www.danwei.com/wizard-arrested-for-raping-buddhist/

You missed the criminal past because you didn't listen to the audio on the linked page.
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http://www.quora.com/Mu-Xiaoliang



https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1898987148874&set=pb.1067503970.-2207520000.1433840282.&type=3&theater



https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1680380203837&set=a.1680380003832.90467.1067503970&type=1&theater





http://web.archive.org/web/20100412164954/http://www.danwei.org/editorial/contributors.php












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I contend that Eric Mu's (or whatever his name is) vitals are being contrive for some purpose. I'm guessing it has to do with either Tibetan goat trading or money, and lots of it, albeit I've just about ruled out the former.



I'm pretty certain the man above is behind the goat trading it all.

Aside  Wink: Anybody still waiting for their SFARDS pre-orders? If not, rest assured that your bitcoins are probably earning interest at Bitcoinsand where Eric Mu sends his bitcoins.

PS: Whatever dots I don't connect, I'm sure that at least one Bitcoin rag will pick up the story and report on what I've left off as soon as they finish penning the BFL/BitPay/HashTrade True Story I first broke in Q3, 2013.
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June 09, 2015, 11:54:40 AM
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Does this make any sense to you, or are we being Shamwowed?

Gleb, not all managers are shitholes like in the US. The business needs things done, everyone gets involed in ALL countries besides the US. Manual labour and giving a helping hand is not reserved for the plebes, as you believe. Here's an illustration:



Your social skills would make you act like a BOSS in a leadership position, and not as someone that shows how to do things. FFS, there's a truck of antminers to be unloaded, you tell me you wouldn't carry that shit inside to safety to power it up as soon as possible whatever your rank?
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After reading all that I am still not sure what the point is.  All those pics kinda look like the same guy to me.  Even if they are not, lets just assume they are not, he could have used a photo that he perceived would be better for whatever audience he was talking to at the time.  I still don't see why we should worry about this guy?  Or his company?  As far as Mu x-, the name being different, it is very common for an asian (especially in business) to use a fake western name.  This is simply because asian names can be exceedingly dificult for westerners to pronounce.

I would suggest that before you continue with this guy you may want to come up with something concrete as to why you are suspicious.  This is a real guy and a real business, investors spending money, employees, etc.  Why torpedo that without any evidence?  It just isn't right.
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After reading all that I am still not sure what the point is.  All those pics kinda look like the same guy to me.  Even if they are not, lets just assume they are not, he could have used a photo that he perceived would be better for whatever audience he was talking to at the time.  I still don't see why we should worry about this guy?  Or his company?  As far as Mu x-, the name being different, it is very common for an asian (especially in business) to use a fake western name.  This is simply because asian names can be exceedingly dificult for westerners to pronounce.

I would suggest that before you continue with this guy you may want to come up with something concrete as to why you are suspicious.  This is a real guy and a real business, investors spending money, employees, etc.  Why torpedo that without any evidence?  It just isn't right.

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/eric-mu/15/943/b51



City University of Hong Kong
MFA, Creative writing
2010 – 2013


http://www.danwei.org/business/a_true_story_of_a_soy_sauce_ma.php

Nanchang, the capital city of Jiangxi is known for being the cradle of the Chinese communist revolution. During my stay there from 2004 to 2008, [...]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1680380203837&set=a.1680380003832.90467.1067503970&type=1&theater



So, did Eric Mu attend a university in Hong Hong (2010-2013) or in Nanchang (2004-2008). Both can't be true, but both were penned by Mr. Mu.
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After reading all that I am still not sure what the point is.  All those pics kinda look like the same guy to me.  Even if they are not, lets just assume they are not, he could have used a photo that he perceived would be better for whatever audience he was talking to at the time.  I still don't see why we should worry about this guy?  Or his company?  As far as Mu x-, the name being different, it is very common for an asian (especially in business) to use a fake western name.  This is simply because asian names can be exceedingly dificult for westerners to pronounce.

I would suggest that before you continue with this guy you may want to come up with something concrete as to why you are suspicious.  This is a real guy and a real business, investors spending money, employees, etc.  Why torpedo that without any evidence?  It just isn't right.

http://www.quora.com/Mu-Xiaoliang



http://www.quora.com/Are-there-any-companies-that-set-up-Bitcoin-mines-What-developing-nations-in-Africa-or-Asia-would-be-the-best-place-with-a-higher-profit-margin-to-start-one-in



https://twitter.com/muxiaoliang



https://haobtc.com/about-us



http://lohas.china.com.cn/attachement/png/site503/20150413/74d435606c7b1695bdf73a.png



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  Mentioned earlier, good Bitcoin team transplanted the original openblock team, so the team and the technical preparations for the relatively smooth, but in the development process or encountered a lot of problems: the first is the design, we programmers are after great master terminal design, which is derived from the original US group cto Wang's technology backbone, the pursuit of streamlined style, design eat some of these losses, now slightly better; the second is the problem of market confidence, especially bitcoin deposit After the pot of money comes up, the circle of demand deposits currency business distrust, beat him to death in this market, once our marketing has some difficulties, but now has turned for the better, because the word "transparent", one count force transparency, indeed can query to force us to grasp the true count, the second is clear profit model, indeed come in mining profits interest, sustained and stable. Personally, I emphasize here again, in order to earn money currency best model is the mining, without him."

Transparency = not mentioning or including in photos Eric Mu, HaoBTC's CMO-cum-cofunder-cum-Mr. I Get To Get Good And Dirty While Unloading Truck Loads Of Boxes-cum-blogger-cum-translator, with depiction of him attending two different universities during two different timeframes.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMining/comments/37jj2q/i_will_live_in_this_btc_mining_farm_for_three/crn8g0o

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When I did my creative writing degree a few years ago, I was mentored by Robin Hemley, an American writer who practices what he called immersion writing. I liked the idea and always on the lookout for my own "immersion project" something haven't been touched by other writers - which is a big reason why I got into Bitcoin. But I also work for the company that controls this farm in charge of overseas marketing / communications so getting publicity is part of my job. It is really hard for me to say which motivation is stronger.
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https://haobtc.com/



http://web.archive.org/web/20150316164825/https://haobtc.com/



For those who missed the boat of locking in their Beautiful Bitcoins at 10.13% (annualized) back in March 16, 2015, you still can lock in your Wonderful Bitcoins at 8% (annualized) today. But, best hurry, for the clock's a tickin'!
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https://haobtc.com/



http://web.archive.org/web/20150316164825/https://haobtc.com/



For those who missed the boat of locking in their Beautiful Bitcoins at 10.13% (annualized) back in March 16, 2015, you still can lock in your Wonderful Bitcoins at 8% (annualized) today. But, best hurry, for the clock's a tickin'!

NOW you are on to something sir... An 8% return and I better hurry... I see...

You know the returns are pretty darn low for it to be a ponzi but still.
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https://haobtc.com/



http://web.archive.org/web/20150316164825/https://haobtc.com/



For those who missed the boat of locking in their Beautiful Bitcoins at 10.13% (annualized) back in March 16, 2015, you still can lock in your Wonderful Bitcoins at 8% (annualized) today. But, best hurry, for the clock's a tickin'!

NOW you are on to something sir... An 8% return and I better hurry... I see...

You know the returns are pretty darn low for it to be a ponzi but still.

FWIW, at least Eric Mu was out and about asking questions prior to cofounding a Bitcoin Bank: http://www.quora.com/Why-doesnt-someone-replicate-Bitcoin-and-peg-it-to-the-US-dollar-Wouldnt-that-solve-all-of-Bitcoins-problems-and-appeal-to-everyone-besides-gold-bugs-and-speculative-investors



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Domain name: haobtc.com
Registry Domain ID: 1782347542_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.bizcn.com
Registrar URL: http://www.bizcn.com
Updated Date: 2015-01-23T09:34:36Z
Creation Date: 2013-02-24T07:11:39Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-02-24T07:11:39Z
Registrar: Bizcn.com,Inc.
Registrar IANA ID: 471
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@bizcn.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +86.5922577888
Reseller:
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Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Xiao Yang Liu
Registrant Organization: Xiao Yang
Registrant Street: Cheku Cafe
Registrant City: Haidian
Registrant State/Province: Beijing
Registrant Postal Code: 100000
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My bad! The bank was founded first over a year prior to the question being asked.
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