Why ISIS winning in Iraq?

[bryant.coleman]

Don't underastimate the power of fanatics and lunatics. It can do wonders if they are properly equipped. Not saying anything about Muslims though, don't get me wrong, it's just that those extremist have a strong motive in jihad and Kur'an, which is probably the main reason they are winning.

Motivation alone doesn't explain their gains. The Kurdish Peshmerga fighters are even more motivated, when compared to the ISIS terrorists. Actually, it is the technological advantage which is aiding the ISIS. Right now, they are having some 2,300 US-made Humvees and tens of thousands of heavy machine guns with them, while the Kurds are armed only with light machine guns.

[ayesha201006]

remember that really big iraqi army that usa kicked to the curb?  they became the insurgency?  well that is where all the good soldiers went.  You can train all you want but its not going to make a good army over night.  The iraq reconstruction was so poorly handled that it is hard to believe that it was not on purpose.

[harkonnen]

Why ISIS winning in Iraq? Can someone explain? Iraqi's army was armed and trained by America. So what is the problem? I can understand why ISIS is winning in Syria such that country ruined in civil war. But why Iraq is losing? What is is about ISIS?

Wath PBS Frontline - The Rise of ISIS

[bitcollins85]

ISIS is winning, because we are not really at war with them. We allowed them to take and arm themselves from Iraqi arsenal's.

[bryant.coleman]

ISIS is winning, because we are not really at war with them. We allowed them to take and arm themselves from Iraqi arsenal's.

This ISIS is winning just because of the constant supply of the US-made weapons (delivered either intentionally or unintentionally). In addition to the 2,300 humvees and APCs which were gifted to them in Mosul, the ISIS also got significant deliveries of weapons when various factions of the FSA defected and then merged with them.

[TinEye]

The ISIS is winning the war, due to the following reasons:

1. Sunni Arabs, fed up with the discrimination from Baghdad are joining ISIS in large numbers
2. ISIS is receiving funds from Qatar and Saudi Arabia
3. Right now, the total strength of the ISIS is somewhere between 50,000 and 100,000 militants, including large numbers with prior military experience (former Iraqi soldiers, Chechens.etc).

so they are using iraq soldiers also, this is why they have the advantages, they any kind of soldier in their big tropps, they can recruit some strong old green berets or mercenary, or people that have enough experience in war, not to mentions their big numbers of soldiers

ISIS is winning, because we are not really at war with them. We allowed them to take and arm themselves from Iraqi arsenal's.

This ISIS is winning just because of the constant supply of the US-made weapons (delivered either intentionally or unintentionally). In addition to the 2,300 humvees and APCs which were gifted to them in Mosul, the ISIS also got significant deliveries of weapons when various factions of the FSA defected and then merged with them.

why USA is helping them, or why they have access to apc? this gift was something that happened before the isis creation or what?

[cryptocoiner]

The ISIS is winning the war, due to the following reasons:

1. Sunni Arabs, fed up with the discrimination from Baghdad are joining ISIS in large numbers
2. ISIS is receiving funds from Qatar and Saudi Arabia
3. Right now, the total strength of the ISIS is somewhere between 50,000 and 100,000 militants, including large numbers with prior military experience (former Iraqi soldiers, Chechens.etc).

Why would saudi arabia supports ISIS? Don't they understand that ISIS is a treat for all arabic world? Saudi Arabia going to be next. ISIS would definetely try to capture Mecca and Medina after taking all syria and Iraq.

[harkonnen]

The ISIS is winning the war, due to the following reasons:

1. Sunni Arabs, fed up with the discrimination from Baghdad are joining ISIS in large numbers
2. ISIS is receiving funds from Qatar and Saudi Arabia
3. Right now, the total strength of the ISIS is somewhere between 50,000 and 100,000 militants, including large numbers with prior military experience (former Iraqi soldiers, Chechens.etc).

Why would saudi arabia supports ISIS? Don't they understand that ISIS is a treat for all arabic world? Saudi Arabia going to be next. ISIS would definetely try to capture Mecca and Medina after taking all syria and Iraq.

Sunni against Shia or vice versa.
They have been fighting and killing each others last millenium.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shia%E2%80%93Sunni_relations

[cryptocoiner]

The ISIS is winning the war, due to the following reasons:

1. Sunni Arabs, fed up with the discrimination from Baghdad are joining ISIS in large numbers
2. ISIS is receiving funds from Qatar and Saudi Arabia
3. Right now, the total strength of the ISIS is somewhere between 50,000 and 100,000 militants, including large numbers with prior military experience (former Iraqi soldiers, Chechens.etc).

Why would saudi arabia supports ISIS? Don't they understand that ISIS is a treat for all arabic world? Saudi Arabia going to be next. ISIS would definetely try to capture Mecca and Medina after taking all syria and Iraq.

Sunni against Shia or vice versa.
They have been fighting and killing each others last millenium.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shia%E2%80%93Sunni_relations

west making them kill each other

[saturn643]

ISIS has released images of militants celebrating, children wielding automatic weapons and a fleet of pick-up trucks carrying its jubilant fighters through the blood-stained streets of Ramadi.

[bryant.coleman]

Why would saudi arabia supports ISIS? Don't they understand that ISIS is a treat for all arabic world? Saudi Arabia going to be next. ISIS would definetely try to capture Mecca and Medina after taking all syria and Iraq.

The ISIS guys are not idiots. They have restricted their fighting to Syria and Iraq. Despite sharing a 1,000 km border with Turkey, they have never attacked a single Turkish location. The same goes for Saudi Arabia and Israel as well. The ISIS is having tacit understandings with these countries. They will never attack them.

[harkonnen]

Why would saudi arabia supports ISIS? Don't they understand that ISIS is a treat for all arabic world? Saudi Arabia going to be next. ISIS would definetely try to capture Mecca and Medina after taking all syria and Iraq.

The ISIS guys are not idiots. They have restricted their fighting to Syria and Iraq. Despite sharing a 1,000 km border with Turkey, they have never attacked a single Turkish location. The same goes for Saudi Arabia and Israel as well. The ISIS is having tacit understandings with these countries. They will never attack them.

2nd IS in ISIS stands for 'Iraq and Syria'. No wonder they are focusing on Iraq and Syria only at this time. Once they control Iraq and Syria, things will be different.
ISIS is cancer. They will spread to other areas eventually.

[cryptocoiner]

Why would saudi arabia supports ISIS? Don't they understand that ISIS is a treat for all arabic world? Saudi Arabia going to be next. ISIS would definetely try to capture Mecca and Medina after taking all syria and Iraq.

The ISIS guys are not idiots. They have restricted their fighting to Syria and Iraq. Despite sharing a 1,000 km border with Turkey, they have never attacked a single Turkish location. The same goes for Saudi Arabia and Israel as well. The ISIS is having tacit understandings with these countries. They will never attack them.

Thats strange they are not attacking israel. Seems Israel and jews are natural enemies for radical muslims. Well israel is strong for them now, but they definetely will try to destroy Israel after syria and iraq. So Israel should take care.

[bryant.coleman]

2nd IS in ISIS stands for 'Iraq and Syria'. No wonder they are focusing on Iraq and Syria only at this time. Once they control Iraq and Syria, things will be different.
ISIS is cancer. They will spread to other areas eventually.

The ISIS is active in a large number of other nations, such as Libya, Yemen, Nigeria, Cameroon, and Afghanistan in addition to Syria and Iraq. But as of now, they have refrained themselves from attacking Turkey, KSA, and Israel.

Thats strange they are not attacking israel. Seems Israel and jews are natural enemies for radical muslims. Well israel is strong for them now, but they definetely will try to destroy Israel after syria and iraq. So Israel should take care.

They are not attacking Israel, because they receive tacit support from Israel. Israel want to replace the Assad regime in Syria at any cost. They have attacked the Syrian army positions inside Syria, which in turn helped the ISIS to advance.

[bumm]

Why ISIS winning in Iraq? Can someone explain? Iraqi's army was armed and trained by America. So what is the problem? I can understand why ISIS is winning in Syria such that country ruined in civil war. But why Iraq is losing? What is is about ISIS?

As far as I know, ISIS is spread in many countries. They are well-equipped in war-fare. They have all the arms and ammunition, lot of money. With lucrative offers, they are recruiting more youngsters from many countries, such as Pakistan, India, Afghanistan, etc.

[Okurkabinladin]

2nd IS in ISIS stands for 'Iraq and Syria'. No wonder they are focusing on Iraq and Syria only at this time. Once they control Iraq and Syria, things will be different.
ISIS is cancer. They will spread to other areas eventually.

The ISIS is active in a large number of other nations, such as Libya, Yemen, Nigeria, Cameroon, and Afghanistan in addition to Syria and Iraq. But as of now, they have refrained themselves from attacking Turkey, KSA, and Israel.

Thats strange they are not attacking israel. Seems Israel and jews are natural enemies for radical muslims. Well israel is strong for them now, but they definetely will try to destroy Israel after syria and iraq. So Israel should take care.

They are not attacking Israel, because they receive tacit support from Israel. Israel want to replace the Assad regime in Syria at any cost. They have attacked the Syrian army positions inside Syria, which in turn helped the ISIS to advance.

Exactly. ISIS fighters had already encountered both Israeli and Turkish troops near respective borders, result was stand off every time. Only people, who fight ISIS consistently are representatives of Syrias govenment and religious minorities (including Shia muslims), who pretty much face anihilation, if the western backed Islamists win.

[rayhan]

Because simply America it self is also helping ISIS by providing weapons , and I've seen a lot of videos where Americain planes dropped weapons to ISIS then "woops , we made a mistake" .
Also ISIS leader (or leaders) are trained by mossad & CIA so it's not only the Iraq Army who is well trained .

Do you have any proof to support your theory?

[bryant.coleman]

Exactly. ISIS fighters had already encountered both Israeli and Turkish troops near respective borders, result was stand off every time. Only people, who fight ISIS consistently are representatives of Syrias govenment and religious minorities (including Shia muslims), who pretty much face anihilation, if the western backed Islamists win.

Not only the religious minorities, but large numbers of Sunni Arabs (who are the majority) are also fighting in the Assad's armed forces. Only a part of the Sunni Arabs sympathize with the ISIS, and other opposition factions such as the FSA and the Al Nusra. But I don't have sufficient knowledge to make the claim that a particular percentage of Sunni Arabs support Assad.

[JamesCB]

Why ISIS winning in Iraq? Can someone explain? Iraqi's army was armed and trained by America. So what is the problem? I can understand why ISIS is winning in Syria such that country ruined in civil war. But why Iraq is losing? What is is about ISIS?

they will lose to the world eventually. It is only a matter of time.

[harkonnen]

Why ISIS winning in Iraq? Can someone explain? Iraqi's army was armed and trained by America. So what is the problem? I can understand why ISIS is winning in Syria such that country ruined in civil war. But why Iraq is losing? What is is about ISIS?

they will lose to the world eventually. It is only a matter of time.

I like your optimism. But real question is how many innocent poeple have to die before that happens? Millions?