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September 11, 2012, 11:29:57 AM
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September 11, 2012, 12:00:51 PM
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Source please, OMG pending.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancet_surveys_of_Iraq_War_casualties

Yep, it seems questionable. Doing more research.

My apologies for believing this outright.
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September 11, 2012, 12:06:25 PM
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The above is accurate if you include displaced people who evacuated to Jordan then got slaughtered on the way there. Counting that, the above is underreported.
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September 11, 2012, 12:20:29 PM
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Iraq war logs Classified US military documents released by WikiLeaks in October 2010, record Iraqi and Coalition military deaths between January 2004 and December 2009.[1][3][4][5][10][10][11] The documents record 109,032 deaths broken down into "Civilian" (66,081 deaths), "Host Nation" (15,196 deaths),"Enemy" (23,984 deaths), and "Friendly" (3,771 deaths).[7][12]
 
[edit] Iraqi Health Ministry The Health Ministry of the Iraqi government recorded 87,215 Iraqi violent deaths between January 1, 2005, and February 28, 2009. The data was in the form of a list of yearly totals for death certificates issued for violent deaths by hospitals and morgues. The official who provided the data told the Associated Press said the ministry does not have figures for the first two years of the war, and estimated the actual number of deaths at 10 to 20 percent higher because of thousands who are still missing and civilians who were buried in the chaos of war without official records.
 
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Lancet studies The Lancet study's figure of 654,965 excess deaths through the end of June 2006 is based on household survey data. The estimate is for all excess violent and nonviolent deaths. That also includes those due to increased lawlessness, degraded infrastructure, poorer healthcare, etc. 601,027 deaths (range of 426,369 to 793,663 using a 95% confidence interval) were estimated to be due to violence. 31% of those were attributed to the Coalition, 24% to others, 46% unknown. The causes of violent deaths were gunshot (56%), car bomb (13%), other explosion/ordnance (14%), airstrike (13%), accident (2%), unknown (2%). A copy of a death certificate was available for a high proportion of the reported deaths (92% of those households asked to produce one).[28][29][30]
 

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September 11, 2012, 12:22:13 PM
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While we're at it, let us not forget these deaths;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_and_disasters_by_death_toll

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September 11, 2012, 12:22:50 PM
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Is a human life lost only meaningful if done so by American hands?

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September 11, 2012, 12:40:07 PM
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Is a human life lost only meaningful if done so by American hands?

No, but there sure have been a lot of them recently, so just like in the late '30s and early '40s, one nation tends to get all the attention.

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September 11, 2012, 12:43:07 PM
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Source please, OMG pending.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancet_surveys_of_Iraq_War_casualties

Yep, it seems questionable. Doing more research.

My apologies for believing this outright.
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September 11, 2012, 12:45:17 PM
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Source please, OMG pending.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancet_surveys_of_Iraq_War_casualties

Yep, it seems questionable. Doing more research.

My apologies for believing this outright.
Wikipedia, the trusted source for many Univ. of Phoenix grands as see not TV.  Grin
Wikipedia is a compilation of sources. Wikipedia does not produce original research.

In this case, I rather have a collection of notable and verified articles over just one. Wikipedia compiles research very well and serves as an excellent secondary source.
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September 11, 2012, 12:46:07 PM
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Source please, OMG pending.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancet_surveys_of_Iraq_War_casualties

Yep, it seems questionable. Doing more research.

My apologies for believing this outright.
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HAHAHA, true IF and WHEN someone uses Wiki as the ending point for any accurate research.  It can however make a good launching point when the references are accurately included AND actually checked by the would be researcher... ;p

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September 16, 2012, 10:13:31 PM
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Counting that, the above is underreported.

It also does not include the number of people who will die prematurely from United States radiological contamination of their crop lands.  That could be another million.
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September 18, 2012, 11:53:10 AM
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Source please, OMG pending.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancet_surveys_of_Iraq_War_casualties

Yep, it seems questionable. Doing more research.

My apologies for believing this outright.
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