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August 19, 2015, 12:40:55 AM |
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Well done! This bticoinXT going to destroy the "trush" in bitcoin ecosystem. The first block was mining and the bitcoin crash. We see more drama like this in the next days. I think we will see after many years the bitcoin price below 100 dollars.
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August 19, 2015, 01:30:02 AM |
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This NotBitcoinXT going to destroy the trust in the XT ecosystem.
So true. When is XTnodes.com going to acknowledge they have no way to tell genuine Gavinista nodes from NotXT and Pseudonode spoofs? I guess they like misleading the public, just like Gavin and Mike Heam.
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August 19, 2015, 02:19:05 AM |
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This NotBitcoinXT going to destroy the trust in the XT ecosystem.
So true. When is XTnodes.com going to acknowledge they have no way to tell genuine Gavinista nodes from NotXT and Pseudonode spoofs? I guess they like misleading the public, just like Gavin and Mike Heam. Big businesses and miners that relies on bitcoin scaling won't read your silly posts on bitcointalk. Infrastructures are going to switch unless Core moves its ass faster than this. I'm not gonna bet on the later though.
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chek2fire
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August 19, 2015, 02:22:18 AM |
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This NotBitcoinXT going to destroy the trust in the XT ecosystem.
So true. When is XTnodes.com going to acknowledge they have no way to tell genuine Gavinista nodes from NotXT and Pseudonode spoofs? I guess they like misleading the public, just like Gavin and Mike Heam. Big businesses and miners that relies on bitcoin scaling won't read your silly posts on bitcointalk. Infrastructures are going to switch unless Core moves its ass faster than this. I'm not gonna bet on the later though. I dont know what you have in your mind guys. This is not a video game this is all about trust in the real world...
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iCEBREAKER
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August 19, 2015, 08:39:07 AM |
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This NotBitcoinXT going to destroy the trust in the XT ecosystem.
So true. When is XTnodes.com going to acknowledge they have no way to tell genuine Gavinista nodes from NotXT and Pseudonode spoofs? I guess they like misleading the public, just like Gavin and Mike Heam. Big businesses and miners that relies on bitcoin scaling won't read your silly posts on bitcointalk. Infrastructures are going to switch unless Core moves its ass faster than this. I'm not gonna bet on the later though. As if the spoofed node count wasn't bad enough, now it turns out XT is designed to spy on/blacklist users. The wheels are coming off Gavin's Panopticoin, no matter how much you love its yappy-yay manifesto.
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August 19, 2015, 09:06:28 AM |
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Bitcoin XT nodes are outnumbered ~ 11 to 1 by bitocoin core nodes and are ~8% of total. The number of XT nodes seems to have increased shortly after a scandal involving someone attempting to fake an email pretending to be satoshi1. r/bitcoin currently seems to be infuriated by the moderator tactics enforced in the subreddit. Snapshot of what the subreddit currently looks like here. 1: Theymos on Reddit added his view on the incident of the email. Maybe it's still unclear if it's genuine. Tools used: http://xtnodes.com/https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/
Legacy text from June 12: That's just one or two weeks before Gavin submits the block size increase update. Meanwhile bitcoin core nodes have even increased after Mike's statement on June 8th from ~5900 to ~6040 today. Full block size debate video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JmvkyQyD8wBitcoin-XT is a new Scam, for withholding the real bitcoins
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August 19, 2015, 10:15:12 AM |
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This NotBitcoinXT going to destroy the trust in the XT ecosystem.
So true. When is XTnodes.com going to acknowledge they have no way to tell genuine Gavinista nodes from NotXT and Pseudonode spoofs? I guess they like misleading the public, just like Gavin and Mike Heam. I believe you quoted MeniRosenfeld last night, but you deleted it. Let me remind you of the shaky foundations you stand on: But anyway, I do strongly believe that the possibility of forking Bitcoin - even if at first it has no consensus - is vital to Bitcoin's health, growth and survival. It's the glue that holds everything together and makes sure the Bitcoin economy has a say in case something goes wrong with the development. Ideally a contentious fork would forever remain a theoretical possibility - but if it is possible it means it can happen, and that's what we're seeing right now. Rejecting a fork on the grounds that it's a fork is wrong.
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August 19, 2015, 10:22:31 AM |
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This NotBitcoinXT going to destroy the trust in the XT ecosystem.
So true. When is XTnodes.com going to acknowledge they have no way to tell genuine Gavinista nodes from NotXT and Pseudonode spoofs? I guess they like misleading the public, just like Gavin and Mike Heam. Big businesses and miners that relies on bitcoin scaling won't read your silly posts on bitcointalk. Infrastructures are going to switch unless Core moves its ass faster than this. I'm not gonna bet on the later though. As if the spoofed node count wasn't bad enough, now it turns out XT is designed to spy on/blacklist users. The wheels are coming off Gavin's Panopticoin, no matter how much you love its yappy-yay manifesto. You forget that the people who are smart enough to run a node are also smart enough to read the release notes and set configuration as they require. If they want to hide where they are coming from, they set IP priority off. Its really that simple. But keep up the "control every bitcoin user" rubbish - its pure comedy gold. Right up there with your Mani Rosenfel quote!!
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iCEBREAKER
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August 19, 2015, 04:58:45 PM |
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As if the spoofed node count wasn't bad enough, now it turns out XT is designed to spy on/blacklist users. The wheels are coming off Gavin's Panopticoin, no matter how much you love its yappy-yay manifesto. You forget that the people who are smart enough to run a node are also smart enough to read the release notes and set configuration as they require. If they want to hide where they are coming from, they set IP priority off. Its really that simple. Frap.doc (given sufficient technical support from the forum's geek squad) is "smart enough to run a node." But he's in no way "also smart enough to read the release notes and set configuration as they require." Remember when he was pestering gmax to explain why his XT swap file was bloated? Yah, that was good times. Classic Frap.doc. The point is, hiding XT's NSA phone home/blacklist BS is not the proper way to go about FOSS.
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August 19, 2015, 05:03:43 PM |
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This NotBitcoinXT going to destroy the trust in the XT ecosystem.
So true. When is XTnodes.com going to acknowledge they have no way to tell genuine Gavinista nodes from NotXT and Pseudonode spoofs? I guess they like misleading the public, just like Gavin and Mike Heam. I believe you quoted MeniRosenfeld last night, but you deleted it. Let me remind you of the shaky foundations you stand on: But anyway, I do strongly believe that the possibility of forking Bitcoin - even if at first it has no consensus - is vital to Bitcoin's health, growth and survival. It's the glue that holds everything together and makes sure the Bitcoin economy has a say in case something goes wrong with the development. Ideally a contentious fork would forever remain a theoretical possibility - but if it is possible it means it can happen, and that's what we're seeing right now. Rejecting a fork on the grounds that it's a fork is wrong. well spoken. in the meantime we reached 13% XT Nodes.
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iCEBREAKER
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August 19, 2015, 05:19:25 PM |
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we reached 13% XT+NotXT Nodes.
^FTFY Pretending 100% of self-reported node versions are genuine instead of spoofed only shows how dishonest you Gavincoiners are. Is there anything you won't do to mislead the public?
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August 20, 2015, 12:08:47 AM Last edit: August 20, 2015, 12:24:04 AM by sAt0sHiFanClub |
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we reached 13% XT+NotXT Nodes.
^FTFY Pretending 100% of self-reported node versions are genuine instead of spoofed only shows how dishonest you Gavincoiners are. Is there anything you won't do to mislead the public? Lets say your litle scam works and instead of an ordered fork to XT there is a slight back flap and miners loose money, where would you or Adam Back ( its joint promoters) stand on liability? Have you taken out a policy on it? Or is misrepresentation not insurable In fact, even if it didn't work, I reckon Miners/Exchanges/Nodes would have a case for the risk of loss it exposed them to. I've only seen it promoted twice ( apart from your signature): once on reddit, and that article Back did for spectrum. I guess you reckon Back has deeper pockets than you. wirdeseinegabelsein
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blocktrail is now providing statistics on how many of the last blocks are in support of 8Mb blocks or BIP101 https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/pools
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Time to fire up some more Core nodes at work. {After all, I own the company...} I have some idle equipment laying around doing nothing, so I might aswell use it for something good. This is getting absurd, and we need to support the network that puts the food on the table. I will use any and all resources to support Core, because I think they have the purest incentive to make a success out of this whole experiment. We cannot allow a small minority of people with hidden agendas to sabotage everything we have worked for years. Join me and fire up all that old equipment laying around gathering dust.
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August 21, 2015, 07:39:39 AM |
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Time to fire up some more Core nodes at work. {After all, I own the company...} I have some idle equipment laying around doing nothing, so I might aswell use it for something good. This is getting absurd, and we need to support the network that puts the food on the table. I will use any and all resources to support Core, because I think they have the purest incentive to make a success out of this whole experiment. We cannot allow a small minority of people with hidden agendas to sabotage everything we have worked for years. Join me and fire up all that old equipment laying around gathering dust. agreed, added 3 new ones this week
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Time to fire up some more Core nodes at work. {After all, I own the company...} I have some idle equipment laying around doing nothing, so I might aswell use it for something good. This is getting absurd, and we need to support the network that puts the food on the table. I will use any and all resources to support Core, because I think they have the purest incentive to make a success out of this whole experiment. We cannot allow a small minority of people with hidden agendas to sabotage everything we have worked for years. Join me and fire up all that old equipment laying around gathering dust. Purest incentive? you tell me Developer | Employer | In favor of | Gavin Andresen | MIT | 8mb+ | Mike Hearn | Google, now Vinumeris | 8mb+ | Meni Rosenfeld | Israeli Bitcoin Association, Bitcoil | tentative 8mb+ | Jeff Garzik | Bitpay, now Dunvegan Space Systems, Inc. | 2mb+ | Peter Todd | Viacoin et al. | 1mb | Luke-JR | Subcontracted by Blockstream | 1mb | Adam Back | Blockstream Co-Founder | 1mb | Matt Corallo | Blockstream Co-Founder | 1mb | Gmaxwell | Blockstream Co-Founder | 1mb | Peter Wuille | Blockstream Co-Founder | 1mb | Mark Friedenbach(Maaku7) | Blockstream Co-Founder | 1mb | laanwj | MIT | 1mb |
And i agree, we cant let a small minority of ppl to decide the future of bitcoin. Only bitcoin , the network itself, can decide its future.
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pedrog
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August 21, 2015, 09:36:52 AM |
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They are mining both versions, are the miners the ones who choose which version to mine?
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meono
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August 21, 2015, 09:52:54 AM |
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They are mining both versions, are the miners the ones who choose which version to mine? They let their miners choose.
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