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September 13, 2012, 06:22:39 AM
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They all looked like lawyers representing the plaintiff to me.
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September 13, 2012, 07:07:16 AM
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On the address Mike confirmed, there is another company registered:
Sys Net
http://www.manta.com/c/mm850db/sys-net-inc

This leads to a new (?) name, Francisco Jimenez:

http://www.manta.com/g/mm850db/francisco-jimenez
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September 13, 2012, 08:00:27 AM
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On the address Mike confirmed, there is another company registered:
Sys Net
http://www.manta.com/c/mm850db/sys-net-inc

This leads to a new (?) name, Francisco Jimenez:

http://www.manta.com/g/mm850db/francisco-jimenez

Same apartment #!  Geez, investigation keeps getting bigger.

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Address:
2305 S CUSTER RD APT 1507
Mckinney, Texas 75070
USA
Phone: (469) 667-1641
Website: No information provided.
Classification:
Computer and Computer Peripheral Equipment and Software Merchant Wholesalers
SYS NET, INC is a Computer and Computer Peripheral Equipment and Software Merchant Wholesalers company located in Mckinney, Texas.

Contact: Francisco Jimenez Est. Total Employees: 1
State of Inc: Year Established: 2005
Est. Total Sales: $ 100,000.00

Name: Francisco Jimenez
Title: Managing Member

New phone #?

Maybe that company moved out

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September 13, 2012, 08:09:24 AM
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Re: 04-EV-11-00637
Evictions in 2011?
Rough past, rough future! Smiley

REGENCY AT STONEBRIDGE RANCH vs. TRENDON SHAVERS, 04-EV-11-00637, is probably an eviction from an apartment, filed in April 2011.
Wells Fargo Bank NA vs. TRENDON SHAVERS, 01-EV-10-00725, is more likely to be a post-foreclosure eviction, filed July 2010.

Regency @ Stonebridge is 2305 S Custer, so my hunch is he's not there any more - who knows, maybe he got current on the rent after he got served with the eviction.

If you really want dirt on Trendon Shavers, the way to get it would be to read the filings in DFA, LTD. Vs. StarTex Power, LLC and Trendon Shavers, Individually and d/b/a Business Cognition, 429-00521-2011, or talk to the plaintiff or the plaintiff's attorney. They might be interested to know of the Pirate activity, if this is really the same guy. On the other hand, they're also going to be fighting for whatever assets can be found, which probably aren't a lot if the guy has 2 evictions and a credit card collection suit in the recent past.  

That case is currently scheduled for trial on 11/12/2012; if someone wanted to talk to Mr. Shavers in person, that might be a good opportunity.

It looks like something was filed in that case by a defendant as recently as 9/10/12, so that one's still alive and kicking.
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September 13, 2012, 08:46:25 AM
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Whoops. It only takes one mistake...lol.

I'm glad you have the balls to release that information instead of giving the lame excuse of "privacy"

I value privacy.  My sharing of this was with much reluctance.

This is appropriate disclosure for an LEO, not a forum with already unstable characters.  All we need are gold dealers confirming where mobs can get some of that fine Judengeld "Internet justice".

If you felt the need to disclose this, you should have sent this info to the officer or agent investigating this for possible criminal prosecution, or possibly the attorney involved in the civil action DS mentions as being in progress.

I now know the price at which you value privacy.  It is far too low.
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September 13, 2012, 08:54:32 AM
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This leads to a new (?) name, Francisco Jimenez:

Suddenly, I remembered this quote:

"17:55 <@pirateat40> Trendon Shavers is a DBA, just to be fair.
17:57 <@pirateat40> I just use his name, he doesn't even speak english."
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September 13, 2012, 08:56:27 AM
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So now the question is does Trendon have money to pay people at this point or has it been lost to Zeek?

I see a few possible situations as of today:

1) He's got a lawyer. And if he has any money, you're going to have to sue him to get it.
2) It had nothing to do with Zeek Rewards or any other Ponzi-pass through, and he's already absconded with everyone's funds months ago. The apartment is just a ruse with a VPN routing device connected through residential internet service.
3) He got caught by the Feds and has turned states evidence on his clients and investors.

Number 3 is quite interesting. It's conceivable the IRS might be interested in what happened here, or some of the money that entered the Ponzi's could be connected with something else we don't know. It's probably not as far-fetched a senario as one might think.

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September 13, 2012, 09:00:02 AM
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This leads to a new (?) name, Francisco Jimenez:

Suddenly, I remembered this quote:

"17:55 <@pirateat40> Trendon Shavers is a DBA, just to be fair.
17:57 <@pirateat40> I just use his name, he doesn't even speak english."

Lol, date?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102379.msg1123106#msg1123106
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September 13, 2012, 09:03:54 AM
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This leads to a new (?) name, Francisco Jimenez:

Suddenly, I remembered this quote:

"17:55 <@pirateat40> Trendon Shavers is a DBA, just to be fair.
17:57 <@pirateat40> I just use his name, he doesn't even speak english."

Lol, date?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102379.msg1123106#msg1123106

sounds like he was just trying to leave him alone. i think he failed.

Sorry El Cabron, you are banned from posting or sending personal messages on this forum.
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September 13, 2012, 09:51:24 AM
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I´d rather say you failed for a complete 6 weeks, busy trading your bonds of course !

And now you shove your police - officers and the renewed IRC - theater - deception in your front or behind goat, as the next step

for you is to fund a bitcoin.org wallet for private investigations to have Don - Shrents talk to prirate personally and report in his thread,

as he is the most trustworthy, level headed, advance thinking and competent contributor in this story.

And that should be accomplished before Trendon appears in court in November, all else and mark my words, the different brotherhoods

will take care , that the loot is not given back to the rightful owners of those coins......... Any Caucasious - coins included!!

Cheers Zyk
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September 13, 2012, 10:03:08 AM
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This leads to a new (?) name, Francisco Jimenez:

Suddenly, I remembered this quote:

"17:55 <@pirateat40> Trendon Shavers is a DBA, just to be fair.
17:57 <@pirateat40> I just use his name, he doesn't even speak english."

Bahaha, then why is he speaking plain english on facebook?
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September 13, 2012, 11:47:35 AM
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People with relevant information should at least disclose that they have it. I think the severity of this case can excuse casascius being so direct, but people with information not obtained from internet detective work should consider something along these lines:

"I have relevant information regarding Pirateat40. Inquiries can be sent in the following manner >fill in contact method and information<."



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September 13, 2012, 11:59:53 AM
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"Trendon Shavers jailed for securities fraud" is probably the September announcement that Bitcoin *really* needs in order to bring stability to it.

Yeah, a real boom to the bitcoin community when uncle sam takes interest in it. Are you for real? I had 900 coins invested when he defaulted, and I could care less what pirate is up to. Don't you guys take responsibility for your own actions?
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September 13, 2012, 12:07:52 PM
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"Trendon Shavers jailed for securities fraud" is probably the September announcement that Bitcoin *really* needs in order to bring stability to it.

Yeah, a real boom to the bitcoin community when uncle sam takes interest in it. Are you for real? I had 900 coins invested when he defaulted, and I could care less what pirate is up to. Don't you guys take responsibility for your own actions?

Of course, everybody should, including you Wink

Byebye coins and trust

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September 13, 2012, 12:27:31 PM
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"Trendon Shavers jailed for securities fraud" is probably the September announcement that Bitcoin *really* needs in order to bring stability to it.

Yeah, a real boom to the bitcoin community when uncle sam takes interest in it. Are you for real? I had 900 coins invested when he defaulted, and I could care less what pirate is up to. Don't you guys take responsibility for your own actions?

So your solution when you've been scammed, you know the name/address of the guy, is to just let it go, and take your losses ?

Nice, you're the perfect candidate for fraud

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September 13, 2012, 12:39:01 PM
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No, the people who gave Pirateat40 BTC are the perfect candidates. The traits you are describing is a diamond among that subset.

I have no issue with people looking to get their BTC back from a blackbox making extraordinary claims, just please don't act like it was a good idea to hand over that BTC in the first place.



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September 13, 2012, 12:44:11 PM
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No, the people who gave Pirateat40 BTC are the perfect candidates. The traits you are describing is a diamond among that subset.

I have no issue with people looking to get their BTC back from a blackbox making extraordinary claims, just please don't act like it was a good idea to hand over that BTC in the first place.

I agree. The way you describe it is clearly a better one.

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September 13, 2012, 12:51:06 PM
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Whoops. It only takes one mistake...lol.

I'm glad you have the balls to release that information instead of giving the lame excuse of "privacy"

I value privacy.  My sharing of this was with much reluctance.

This is appropriate disclosure for an LEO, not a forum with already unstable characters.  All we need are gold dealers confirming where mobs can get some of that fine Judengeld "Internet justice".

If you felt the need to disclose this, you should have sent this info to the officer or agent investigating this for possible criminal prosecution, or possibly the attorney involved in the civil action DS mentions as being in progress.

I now know the price at which you value privacy.  It is far too low.

As a long time supporter of Casascius and his coins and someone who wants to track down pirate I'm disappointed this was just put out on the forum.


I think asking the forum what police officer is investigating would have been the best way to go here. Anyway we all make mistakes (I fully understand why you did it) and I hope that you make a new privacy policy and post it on your website Casascius.

Thanks


Not that it is lost in the show wrestling of strong words , Sir  Goat  Wink

Me too , I value privacy but, as you, I value standing up to my word and as I know, that you haven´t me on ignore yet, you are not allöwed to ignore me :



1.5-3% per day isn't unusual for an online ponzi scheme (zeek managed to get to ~$600m and last over a year offering rates like that).
What interests me though is you saying he paid out more than he got in - what details do you have for that?

Block chain evidence, and no at times it seems he dipped into negative value however at the end it is clear he was up. Many people seemed to give him a lot of money once everyone started telling ponzi.



I agree we do not need to know what happened before we file a complain and we might not ever know. However collect evidence just seemed like the right first step. Part of this step is who is owed what and to see if the want to file a complaint as well. Sadly many large PPT operators at this time seem to not want to join us. Some slowly are talking with us however.

Thanks.


Also some smart people still think pirate had nothing to do with a ponzi. You really can at times make more than 1% a day just doing arb. Honestly pirate could have been something else.
Anyway we want to get evidence for the parts we are missing to get a better picture. Also it would help if pirate would just open up and talk.
Thanks.
The first thing we would like to do is find out exactly what pirate was doing.

Thats easy. He took your coins and ran.
Whatever Pirate did with your coins, "invest", sell, gamble, coke or hookers doesnt matter one yota. Why dont you focus on verifying his ID and filing a formal complaint?



There are powerful people on this forum, who nor want pirate@40 to be located, neither to see his uncooked accounting made public -- thats why---and thats why it takes 6 weeks

for Goat to open this thread (going after Trendon Shavers) and now to put even that 3 steps back to the  closed one (aggregating data) and IRC and thats why now, even as a

Trendon Shavers will be identified, nor proper accounting, neither the operator of BCST will be found.


It is good to hear that people are making "arrangments" to go after Pirate. But all in all. I'm not sure much will come from it.

By all means put Good money into chasing after  bad money. Perhaps you might turn a profit in all of this. Well some PPTs obviously have (i think).

Bitcoin has moved into the strong hands. Get over it. Stop trusting scumbags on the internet to hold your damn bitcoins.

Wink Wink Wink

Read my posts in bitcoinmax before they are all becoming censored like in here and you can again see in the rear - view mirror :

"Caution - Objects might be nearer than they appear"


the first step should be to file a complaint imo.  The sooner the better. Let them do their job.
We are doing this as a group and this is the way they wanted to do it.

@Goat ...are you allowed to tell us who is ment by "we" and "they" ?

Cheers Zyk


I'm pretty sure 99% of the coin will come from people with large BTCST accounts and will be managed by some one trusted outside of this mess.

Also a few trolls will not stop us. We are going to take legal action if we can even if a few of you call us names. I understand that some in the community want Pirate to get away with it but the best action can and should be taken by people with BTCST accounts. It will be difficult for people with out BTCST accounts to sue or file legal charges. This to argue otherwise is silly.

Thanks for your support.


Are those anonymous "trusted people outside of this mess" to be found on IRC only ? Who chips in those 99% coins please?

Thanks Zyk
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September 13, 2012, 01:29:55 PM
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I am sure this is a current or recent address. This is Ashley Shavers's address on Whitepages, and is also an address listed under GPUMAX registration.

2305 S Custer Rd, Apt 1507
McKinney, TX 75070-6222

I shipped two orders of Casascius Coins to this address in January and February 2012.

I think you are satoshi.

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they keep laughing, then they start choking on their laughter, and then they go and catch their breath. Then they start laughing even more.
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September 13, 2012, 02:06:11 PM
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"Trendon Shavers jailed for securities fraud" is probably the September announcement that Bitcoin *really* needs in order to bring stability to it.

Yeah, a real boom to the bitcoin community when uncle sam takes interest in it.

Don't get upset, you're talking to an agorist anarcho-capitalist here.

I'm just saying that once it's recognized as something of value in their legal system, it would bring in a lot more users...and thus stability. Whether you would use the government to go after him or not, knowing that you could legally go after a scammer like this is going to make people take it seriously.
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