NEW ROUND: 27/06/2015 15:00 UTC - multidoubler.com

[fuzion]

Good game. I can confirm payment.

Share your proof here  
xixixixi

That makes sense. I invested 0.01 BTC for testing and put the reinvestment to 50%. I got this payment:

https://blockchain.info/tx/48caceee280be50b96f354666ea6681abe04d0f614d077bfd6505f0794ddfbd9 (50% of 200% minus transaction fee)

Later i got this payment:

https://blockchain.info/tx/d847be1221e32a14b8168bfff909b7cd48365aaae70cd7e00be7b3d092460232 (My reinvestment got doubled - minus transaction fee)

You should also notice that there is just a little time difference between first and second payment. That means the game is still young. If you are curious and want to try it out, i honestly think, this is the right time to do so. Of course you have reasons for distrust, you might want to try a little amount first (just like i did). But later the time until payment will obviously just grow. Your decision of course. I am here just to confirm that this game seems working.

I really dont believe vouches from newbies

[antiuser1]

That is understandable, but i just can not change this fact. Except of course buying someones old account. The payment is proven in the blockchain as documented here. The payout address was 1EeidhBotBvVFu8VircmFeqiRiDzDLb4md . You could go to https://www.multidoubler.com/ and press ctrl+f and look for this address, you will see, that there is still an investment running with this payout address (actually two on queue and two already paid). Of course you can choose to believe that i am the site owner or somehow related to him. Well, there is really nothing i can do about that except of course saying this is not the case. However, i do have one obvious interest here: i'd like to get paid for my running investments, of course.
As i said, if you don't trust other peoples words, you have to try it yourself (with a small amount) to see whether or not this is a scam. If this is also too risky for you, i honestly think you should not gamble with money at all (this is however an investment game).

I don't blame you for not trusting me, there are enough scams around.

[fajar]

Sorry  I dont know how does it works

[moneytech]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1090622.new#new

Check and comment

[antiuser1]

Looks like smaller investments have a huge advantage here, they don't stick that long in the earning process. Right now investment #65 still is still earning, while 10 later investments are already paid out and 5 more started earning. If this investment would have been divided into 4 or 5 smaller investments, it would obviously get paid out much faster. The only disadvantage would be the higher total transaction fee. I think this should be fixed somehow, so that the earning speed of currently earning investments is proportional to their share. How it is now it looks a bit unfair for bigger investors.

[joel_]

@Multidoubler
Please look at your script math and correct it. There is obvious error in calculating shares percentage of deposits in earning status. You have right now total of 7 deposits in earning status, yet they all have same weight in percentage of 14.2857% even though they all are deposits of different value. That is the reason, why the bigger deposits wait much longer until x2 is earned...

If this is correct and by the design, you are not stating that anywhere in your rules, that value of the deposit doesn't matter. If this is in fact a bug, please correct it before the game once again lose their player's trust

*edit* - turned out I was reading the rules too quickly as @antiuser1 rightfully pointed out. The game is right on track with the rules!

[ahmed04]

Admin is gone? 

may be admin very busy now hehehe
 

[antiuser1]

Well, the behavior i criticized before is mentioned in the FAQ:

"What are "Dividends" and how are distributed?
Dividends are the amounts you receive when new investments are created. All investments at "earning" status receive the same amount of any new investment. If the total of investments at "earning" status is 10, this means you are going to receive 10% of any new investment. "Dividends" are automatically converted into your investment currency. Also when one investment reach the x2 multiplier and it is paid, if the investment's earned amount is higher than the require one for payment, a dividend of the remaining amount is distributed (This happens because after all dividends are distributed, earned amount may overpass the x2 target)."

Seems still unfair for big investors, but since the whole thing works as specified in that manner, this is no reason to lose trust.

The other thing that is discussed here is related to rule 3:

"The 10% of all confirmed investments are on "earning" status, while others wait on the queue."

It is not clear whether 10% means 10% of the number of investments, which would imply that a lot of small investments lead to a higher number of simultaneous earners or if this means 10% of the total investment sum. However, neither of that really fits to the numbers on top of the cite:

INVESTMENTS

WAITING
77
EARNING
8
PAID
77

SHARES

IN
2.588
ACTIVE
0.365
OUT
1.984

[joel_]

...All investments at "earning" status receive the same amount of any new investment...

My mistake, so I apologize to @Multidoubler and thank you @antiuser1 for pointing it out !
I was too hasty without carefully reading rules - was expecting copy&paste from MC's doubler Thanks
Good luck to all players!

[multidoubler]

The 10% are from waiting+earning (all unpaid investments)

WAITING 77
EARNING 8

77 + 8 = 85
85 * 0.1 = 8 (round down)

if there are under 20 (waiting+earning)
the earning is 1

[antiuser1]

@multidoubler: Thanks for the clarification. In my opinion it is by far not optimal that bigger investments take so much longer and a lot of small investments causing the whole process to slow down even more. Look at investor #65, if he gets just 12,5% of every new investment, then the site needs around 1BTC further investment input to pay him out, even much more if those investments are very small. That can take a while. If he had divided his payment into 4 or 5 payments, he would have been paid out by now.

But at least this works according to your rules & FAQ and therefore no one can claim this would be a scam just because of that. Changing the rules now that the game is running seems impossible without making someone else feeling scammed. But if you ever start a new round (your current game hopefully goes on for a lot longer), then you might reconsider those rules. I see no reason why big investments should be punished in that way. After all, they make the whole thing by far more interesting.

[multidoubler]

We have deliberately chosen for the investments not to be distributed according to shares. Thus, everything goes a little faster ahead. Larger deposits need for a little while longer, but the whole game does not hang on large deposits. No matter how much one pays in, everyone gets an equal share of of any new investment. Anyway it's a fair game and running 100% according the rules. Btw. large deposits are going to make the number of earning investments smaller  

[joel_]

yep, I see now why admin did it. With this simple rule, he effectively self regulated big deposits out of the game without explicitly restricting it - smart approach & interesting solution to first-in/first-out games!

Side note: though to be fair, bigger deposits can slow the game down on one hand, but on the other hand, they pay to previous depositors in earning status much quicker along with taking more risks. So I see MC's approach also pretty viable!

[multidoubler]

You got it joel_ 

With a large deposit you have the chance to come more quickly to the list of earning investments with a higher percentage. Now the risk of this action comes into play. Either get high enough deposits according to your own or not, you can choose to wait until the deposit has been fully paid, or you pay out prematurely.

As I have seen in other games go the deposits rather quickly towards zero due eternally long waiting lists. Here's all a little bit different.

[antiuser1]

If this causes the game to go on significantly longer, this is the right call.

[multidoubler]

We want to hope so. We tried to create a game that is capable of running on a long time. Now it's up to all of you.

[fajar]

"Game will end in less then 16 hours, if the investments don't exceed the minimum of 0.1000 shares in the last 72 hours. Actual shares in the last 72 hours: 0.0387" what ?

[antiuser1]

@fajar: The game will most likely end soon, new investments just became even riskier.

@Multidoubler: Just for curiosity, what happens to investments currently earning if the investors fail to click the withdraw button in time?

[multidoubler]

If the 0.01 are reached, the Timer will reset and disappear. If the timer goes to zero, new deposits are disabled and the site remains as it is for the needed time.

Edit: The minimum has lowered, because of many emails, hoping the game will recover soon

[multidoubler]

As the game didn't recover - no new Investments - we decided to restart.

New Round starts on 27/06/2015 15:00 UTC