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September 17, 2012, 11:14:12 PM
Last edit: September 17, 2012, 11:30:18 PM by cuz0882
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Why would anyone want to earn less by not using gpumax? It's not possible to lose money on it. Even if he stole a days worth of mining, which would be extremely unlikely. Customers would still have earned more then elsewhere. You guys decided to take the risk of investing in something that had ponzi written all over it. The only person you should be mad at is yourselves.
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September 17, 2012, 11:49:32 PM
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Why would anyone want to earn less by not using gpumax? It's not possible to lose money on it. Even if he stole a days worth of mining, which would be extremely unlikely. Customers would still have earned more then elsewhere. You guys decided to take the risk of investing in something that had ponzi written all over it. The only person you should be mad at is yourselves.


Why doesn't the majority of the bitcoin network mine with gpumax? To a lot it's very unattractive..


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September 18, 2012, 08:55:07 PM
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Why would anyone want to earn less by not using gpumax? It's not possible to lose money on it. Even if he stole a days worth of mining, which would be extremely unlikely. Customers would still have earned more then elsewhere. You guys decided to take the risk of investing in something that had ponzi written all over it. The only person you should be mad at is yourselves.


Why doesn't the majority of the bitcoin network mine with gpumax? To a lot it's very unattractive..

There has a been a long waiting list to get a gpumax account. Not sure how you conclude people must not want accounts from that.
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September 18, 2012, 11:57:09 PM
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? I don't, never did... I put my email in that thing to see how long it took to get an invite. Never used it.


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September 19, 2012, 12:08:24 AM
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? I don't, never did... I put my email in that thing to see how long it took to get an invite. Never used it.

So because you didn't, that must mean everyone else feels the same way? Most people like getting paid extra. I would have at least sold the account if I didn't want to use it. That's another 5 btc right there.
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September 19, 2012, 12:09:55 AM
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I fiannly got a GPUMAX invite the other week... don't think I'll be taking it up.
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September 19, 2012, 11:04:48 PM
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? I don't, never did... I put my email in that thing to see how long it took to get an invite. Never used it.

So because you didn't, that must mean everyone else feels the same way? Most people like getting paid extra. I would have at least sold the account if I didn't want to use it. That's another 5 btc right there.
I actually stopped using mine because it was causing all sorts of problems with miners dropping out...
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September 19, 2012, 11:23:58 PM
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In light of recent events, I would plead to all Pool Operators to Ban and/or Block access to your Mining Pools from the GPUMAX proxy getwork system.

Please show the community at large, that you as a Pool Op will not support a user such as Trendon Shavers (pirateat40) who is responsible for defrauding the community in a theft of Bitcoins worth anywhere from 1 million to 5 million (as claimed by pirate himself) US Dollars.

Trendon has claimed to have the community's 500,000 Bitcoins at his disposal from the failed Bitcoin Savings & Trust fiasco, so please help the community to take a stand.

It seems as though even with the dissapearance of Trendon and the closing and default of Bitcoin Savings & Trust, GPUMAX has been able to continue operating as if nothing had happened. Please help stop it now.

Thank you for your time.

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As many users simply refuse to stop using GPUMAX, forcing them to stop, with the lack of steady passthrough work would seal the deal.
On top of this, with GPUMAX being blocked, purchases from this company wouldn't have anywhere to go but a private money laundering pool of GPUMAX's choosing, to mint fresh coins for it's operators. At this point, it's intentions would be clear and not open to further debate, as no pools would accept either public passthrough work or private purchased work from clients.

Thank you again.

This kind of blocking is almost impossible to do.
GPUMax can just change a few networking things (re-routing/default gateways/vpn/proxies/etc) to hit the pools from a varied range of IPs...
I'm still hopping that Pirate will pay back all the money.

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September 22, 2012, 11:43:28 AM
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September 22, 2012, 12:01:01 PM
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As confirmed above, it was GPUMAX (or pirate40, to be precise - even tho I have no real proof for that) that was pool-hopping us, using his own account (registered with a fake e-mail of course).
Do you happen to still have some record of the payout address used?
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September 24, 2012, 08:01:28 PM
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So I've been browsing through here, I find the whole crusade against GPUMAX a little pointless.  Why not ban all proxy pools? What is being asked of pool operators is totally unreasonable in the sense that it can hurt their regular miners (blocking wrong ips etc).  I got caught up in the whole BCTST deal with a pass through losing a massive 20 coins.  Frankly I couldn't care, this service is something different from BTCST so I treat it that way.  I've been using GPUMAX for the last few months and the going is good, granted it has slowed down a lot recently.  As long as there are people purchasing shares (and proportional pools) there will always be work.  Can I tell if the owners are taking a few shares off the top? Honestly not really.  What I do know is that I've always been making more than straight mining somewhere without it.

Why not ask: Pool owners why aren't you paying more? But we all know the answer to that, it's unreasonable to expect them to pay higher rates and not be sustainable.

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Why not ask: Pool owners why aren't you paying more? But we all know the answer to that, it's unreasonable to expect them to pay higher rates and not be sustainable.

Why aren't they paying more what? And to whom?

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September 25, 2012, 02:31:48 AM
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Why not ask: Pool owners why aren't you paying more? But we all know the answer to that, it's unreasonable to expect them to pay higher rates and not be sustainable.

Why aren't they paying more what? And to whom?
Sorry I was referring to PPS rates to miners.

Like Graet was saying not many people use it on his pool - I think that holds true mostly for everyone now considering how little public work is being done on the proxy now.  You can more or less effectively "block" this service by not having a proportional pool or just convince people to stop rolling the dice and purchasing the service.

I'm in the process of slowly moving off the service myself simply because the amount of public work I get is next to nil and now there isn't really much of a point any more, however I am not doing this because I feel I was cheated or anything.

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September 25, 2012, 10:10:17 AM
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Wow, just read the whole thread as I use GPUMAX. I was curious about arguments against GPUMAX mining.

My conclusion: a bunch of crybabies that believed in Santa Claus want other people to punish the man for them. So this is about setting up a lynch mob basically. And a pointless one at that: if some of what I read is true, pirateat40 is on top of 500,000 BTC from his scam. If people think that crashing GPUMAX into the ground is going to make any difference, they are down right delusional (as you must have been to believe in a sustainable weekly 7% interest).

As GPUMAX pays regularly the risk of being scammed is very low so I'll continue mining on it, carefully monitoring expected income/actual income. If you really want me to stop, put a similar service up to compete against it or make law enforcement close the service (assuming the law is on your side on this one, good luck with that) otherwise get lost. You already have the legal means to make yourself heard and seek compensation so use them: I'm not part of your personal vendetta squad. In fact in some jurisdictions free market laws make what has been asked here illegal (the irony!).

Miners at GPUMAX don't owe these people anything and personally I don't care about their problems.

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September 25, 2012, 11:19:54 AM
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I'm just sick of seeing this thread popup on the pools support board.

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
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October 05, 2012, 12:54:32 AM
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as predicted before I stopped reading the fud in this thread, its almost over
topic from #gpumax
pirateat40> GPUMAX will be down on 10/08 at 12:00 AM CST.  The system may or may not come back up depending on the new owners.

miners (for their own reasons) have already been leaving gpumax too

hopefully the pools forum can gt back to pools
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