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June 21, 2015, 03:56:37 PM
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I believe it is possible to set the operating Mhz of the chips (from what I've seen from the videos on Youtube). I wonder if there is a point where I can completely shutdown the fan or run it at an acceptable level.

This is because I want to host them in an office and only start them at night or at low speeds.
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June 21, 2015, 04:09:55 PM
Last edit: June 21, 2015, 04:26:25 PM by philipma1957
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no it always needs a fan.  but you can swap fans and run down clocked to get okay sound levels.


to be honest you fucked up buying these units if sound was the main issue.


here is the quietest miner in production.


http://ehash.com/product/avalon4-module-1t/


run at 850gh sound is not a problem at all.


your s-5 fan is monster loud even at 850 gh instead of stock 1150 speed.


there are mods to the sound on an s-5 but it will never be as quiet as the avalon 4.1  I got s-5s to 55db while the avalon 4.1 is 42db.


Next time ask before you buy. I say that because your post's seem to suggest you already have the s-5's


there are more threads on the avalon 4.1 then this one:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=951758.0

still looking for fan mod thread on s-5

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=945775.msg10361488#msg10361488


still looking for more s-5 fan threads>>>>>>> got one! see below:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=927941.0



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June 21, 2015, 04:27:37 PM
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I ordered one unit. It's on its way.

I will find a place, don't worry.

I also found these pages for the interested.

Thanks for the reply.

http://www.gcaudio.com/resources/howtos/loudness.html

http://www.head-fi.org/t/615928/an-intricate-decibel-equivalent-table-what-is-how-loud-from-10-to-310-db
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June 21, 2015, 04:29:19 PM
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My 2 s3's are pretty quiet compared to my s5. an s5 underclocked will still run loud because of the temps, they get pretty warm regardless of what you do.
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June 21, 2015, 04:29:28 PM
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No fan... would not be possible unless you lived in a extremely cold ambient.  I have never seen anyone run without a fan.

You will want to look into fan's doing push/pull (with quiet fans) and most likely a under clock with it.  Between those things you could get it to run much quieter but you will lose hash speed most likely.
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June 21, 2015, 06:50:16 PM
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Then probably I'll run them at night when no one is around.

Do you have any practical way of hosting a single unit outdoor? A small closet maybe?
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June 21, 2015, 06:57:35 PM
Last edit: June 21, 2015, 11:01:36 PM by philipma1957
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Then probably I'll run them at night when no one is around.

Do you have any practical way of hosting a single unit outdoor? A small closet maybe?

worst possible idea since it has 600 watts of heat. unless closet has ac and a vent out.

really should have asked us before purchase.

is power "free"

if so s-3's   use 400 watts and if under-clocked to 400 gh they use 300 watts.  s-3's are pretty easy to make quiet.

maybe some one would buy the s-5 and you put in 2 s-3's instead.  (this only works if power is "free")

I hate sounding negative and telling  you should have done something other then you did.  


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June 21, 2015, 11:01:07 PM
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Then probably I'll run them at night when no one is around.

Do you have any practical way of hosting a single unit outdoor? A small closet maybe?
Depends on location, there is a user on here that has his running outside. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1073317.0;topicseen

Honestly though I would just sell it if i were you and eat the shipping cost. Hell you might be able to make a bit of profit if you get a craigslist buyer.

@ op

yeah this is most likely your best choice.

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June 21, 2015, 11:44:38 PM
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Before I would take a loss on it I would get quiet fan's in a push/pull and under clock.  You will have approx 20 or so per fan extra costs to get a nice quiet ones.   

But I would at least try a quiet push/pull with good under clock before selling it since you already invested in it. 
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June 22, 2015, 12:20:14 AM
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Honestly if quietness and/or low heat output are the main concerns s3/s3+ would be your best option as long as you don't care its a little more watts per ghs. I'd say my s3's are quieter than a window ac unit, the s5 is/seems to be louder.

average s3/s3+ - ~450g/360w
s3/s3+ uc'd/volted - ~300g/170w
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June 22, 2015, 02:22:05 AM
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Before I would take a loss on it I would get quiet fan's in a push/pull and under clock.  You will have approx 20 or so per fan extra costs to get a nice quiet ones.   

But I would at least try a quiet push/pull with good under clock before selling it since you already invested in it. 
I am pretty sure it is safe to presume he is hiding this in his office for free power, what he really needs to be concerned with is not the noise or someone asking what it is but be concerned with IT finding it on the network. Don't get fired over a couple bucks of electric.

Just to be clear I was assuming it's a office he has permission and just did not want noise during day.  If it is a "hidden" miner I don't support that at all and suggest him moving it home.
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June 22, 2015, 11:23:44 AM
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GT1850 fan should do the trick, almost no noise but strong airflow, but difficult to find, maybe in china

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June 22, 2015, 08:57:50 PM
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Honestly if quietness and/or low heat output are the main concerns s3/s3+ would be your best option as long as you don't care its a little more watts per ghs. I'd say my s3's are quieter than a window ac unit, the s5 is/seems to be louder.

average s3/s3+ - ~450g/360w
s3/s3+ uc'd/volted - ~300g/170w
What voltage for 170W ?
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June 22, 2015, 10:00:20 PM
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yeaaaaa... as stated, not only would it ruin any warranty but it is never a good idea to operate the unit without the fan.

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June 24, 2015, 12:10:55 AM
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Try immersion.

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June 24, 2015, 10:45:26 AM
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Try immersion.

Yeah right now I'm talking with 3M to get 10L of that liquid.. Smiley

I just searched for a little bit but I couldn't find any small scale equipment right away.

However I think it's possible to install it myself? Right? At least in practice?

Need to check the price of that liquid!
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June 24, 2015, 12:34:55 PM
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Yeah right now I'm talking with 3M to get 10L of that liquid.. Smiley

I just searched for a little bit but I couldn't find any small scale equipment right away.

However I think it's possible to install it myself? Right? At least in practice?

Need to check the price of that liquid!

It's not cheap  Cry

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3M-FC-40-FLUORINERT-32oz-Ready-to-Ship-/110716728982

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3M-FC-3283-Fluorinert-1-Gallon-new-surplus-/161682717549?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25a50a7b6d

at least you can always use sunflower oil if you like to live dangerously.
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June 24, 2015, 01:10:20 PM
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By the way, I forgot to share the link I saw the 3M Novec liquid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6ErbZtpL88
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June 24, 2015, 05:19:28 PM
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Immersion cooling is awsome but expensive and difficult to implement. Especially in home.

Under development Modular UPGRADEABLE Miner (MUM). Looking for investors.
Changing one PCB with screwdriver and you have brand new miner in hand... Plug&Play, scalable from one module to thousands.
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June 24, 2015, 05:25:59 PM
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Actually, the link that SerialLain included isn't the correct kind - you're looking for Novec 7000 series.  The big difference is the boiling point of the liquid - the eBay one boils at 165c, so useless for cooling, the Antminer would have burned out well before encountering this.  Novec boils at 34c (93f!), which really is amazing... Of course, this means your ambient environment needs to be far less than 93f, I believe they recommend in the 70f's.  And don't forget this still requires a radiator inside of the Novec chamber typically with water moving through it, acting as a cooling mechanism to cause condensation.  If you're seriously considering something like this, they made a really good video on how to actually do it here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivVoANqFBuY

It's more practical and less sales pitch than the other linked video.
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