Could Satoshi Nakamoto be the CIA/NSA?

[satnof]

What if bitcoin miners are being used to generate rainbow tables for cracking password hashes. It is a known fact that with a rainbow table you can crack a password hash in seconds rather than years, and in big-O notation brute-forcing passwords takes O(n²) time which would also take years for a 14+ character password.

Now to generate a rainbow table with character set 0-9, a-z, A-Z, + all special characters (@!#$%^&*(){}/*-+_=) would also take years to generate in advance if you don't have access to a distributed grid of computers dividing the processing power between themselves. And it costs quite abit of BTC to buy processing power from the cloud. And coming to think of it, aren't the bitcoins miners doing just that?

Here's the genius part. What if the CIA/NSA devised a way so that the bitcoin miners are actually generating the rainbow hashes needed to crack any password up to 64 characters in length. Wouldn't that practically give them access to any corporation + home wifi + any account needed?

I can think of a multitude of applications to the bitcoin distributed network, not excluding DDOSing, generating hashes for different types of decoding algorithms such as MD5, SHA1 (which are the most commonly used to protect passwords in databases), etc. Even the term that miners are generating hashes gives you the slight doubt that, what if?

Alright you might argue that now developers are using salt mechanism, but still...its food for thought. Any fanboys who read the code, care to give their opinion? Now don't get me wrong, I'm just inserting the notion of what if? I quite like the uses of bitcoin myself.

[NyeFe]

[odolvlobo]

The CIA or NSA want to crack passwords. So, instead of simply building a chip that hashes data using various hashing algorithms, the CIA or NSA develops a revolutionary payment system with the hope that four years later some Chinese dudes are motivated to develop chips that do a very specific kind of hashing that might not even be useful for cracking passwords.

Yeah, that makes sense.

[astrobitcoin]

there's no need for NSA or other similar agencies (too many) to invent a damn complex crypto currency in order to get hashing power to crack passwords lol

they can achieve way more without any cracking

have a look at this talk to refresh your ideas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vILAlhwUgIU

 

[Elwar]

Bitcoin, if it were to gain mainstream adoption, would be the end of the NSA/CIA/governments/wars/etc.

[S4VV4S]

The CIA or NSA want to crack passwords. So, instead of simply building a chip that hashes data using various hashing algorithms, the CIA or NSA develops a revolutionary payment system with the hope that four years later some Chinese dudes are motivated to develop chips that do a very specific kind of hashing that might not even be useful for cracking passwords.

Yeah, that makes sense.

Indeed it does make sense.
The OP is right.
They are cracking passwords as we speak.
Shit, they cracked my password just now....
In fact, this is them posting this....


LOL!
Sorry, I couldn't help it

[Kprawn]

That would have been a bit impossible with Open Source code availlable to other countries, who have also VERY talented software engineers.

This is not to say that they have not tried it before.. Take the whole hardware backdoor that was built into Cisco routers a while ago. There were many countries who did not even know that this existed, until it was
found and exposed to the public.

According to the NSA whistleblowers, they have loads of hidden access to many VPN's / ISP's etc. etc... So it would not surprise me at all, if they did try to sneak it past us in a update.

Gavin did visit them, and he was one of the lead engineers in the field. It would be a massive hit to the Bitcoin community, IF they tried that shite.  

[MicroGuy]

As I said in my show that I did in San Mateo, California, the New Living Expo, the NSA good guys [made Bitcoin.]
 
There are good guys in every intelligence agency.
 
[The NSA good guys] did make Bitcoin to have a backup so that if the Federal Reserve tries to crash the dollar, we can reboot our currency off of Bitcoins.
 
And Bitcoins cannot be tampered with. They cannot be hacked.
 
Goldman recently bought a bunch of Bitcoins. They see the writing on the wall.

http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1180-ssp-revealed

[MF Doom]

the whole fact that EVERYONE involved with btc claims to have never met "satoshi" but only communicated with "him" though this forum or email does seem strange to me.  If you read about edward snowden he used similar tactics (he was a CIA agent) to hide his identity until he knew it was safe to talk to the journalists he was communicating with.

Then again, maybe they all have met satoshi and are just saying they "never met him" to keep the whole secrecy thing in tact

[Elwar]

the whole fact that EVERYONE involved with btc claims to have never met "satoshi" but only communicated with "him" though this forum or email does seem strange to me.  If you read about edward snowden he used similar tactics (he was a CIA agent) to hide his identity until he knew it was safe to talk to the journalists he was communicating with.

Then again, maybe they all have met satoshi and are just saying they "never met him" to keep the whole secrecy thing in tact

Snowden was not a CIA agent.

He was a contractor working on a CIA project.

[satnof]

the whole fact that EVERYONE involved with btc claims to have never met "satoshi" but only communicated with "him" though this forum or email does seem strange to me.  If you read about edward snowden he used similar tactics (he was a CIA agent) to hide his identity until he knew it was safe to talk to the journalists he was communicating with.

Then again, maybe they all have met satoshi and are just saying they "never met him" to keep the whole secrecy thing in tact

Snowden was not a CIA agent.

He was a contractor working on a CIA project.

True, but the access he had was akin to root access (sysadmin). A field operative would be the lowest on the totem pole (as people understand CIA agents as the Bourne guy).

A desk guy working in a NOC or SOC would get tons of access and the bigger picture. Everything has to pass through you. That was the level of access Snowden had though.

[MF Doom]

the whole fact that EVERYONE involved with btc claims to have never met "satoshi" but only communicated with "him" though this forum or email does seem strange to me.  If you read about edward snowden he used similar tactics (he was a CIA agent) to hide his identity until he knew it was safe to talk to the journalists he was communicating with.

Then again, maybe they all have met satoshi and are just saying they "never met him" to keep the whole secrecy thing in tact

Snowden was not a CIA agent.

He was a contractor working on a CIA project.

Yes he was a CIA agent doing computer work, after he was medically discharged from the army.  Clearly you haven't followed his case too closely.

He was not an agent at the time of the leaks/NSA revelations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden#CIA

[MF Doom]

the whole fact that EVERYONE involved with btc claims to have never met "satoshi" but only communicated with "him" though this forum or email does seem strange to me.  If you read about edward snowden he used similar tactics (he was a CIA agent) to hide his identity until he knew it was safe to talk to the journalists he was communicating with.

Then again, maybe they all have met satoshi and are just saying they "never met him" to keep the whole secrecy thing in tact

I think we are overthinking this, a couple years ago on a forum there was a guy who acted just like that. Nobody knew his real name or any information and he only communicated via forums and occasionally email. Some people are very concerned about their privacy.

Yes, lots of people value their privacy, but to go to those lengths that "satoshi" did to keep his identity private to those he was WORKING DIRECTLY WITH and handing over the control of the forum/ control of bitcoin seem far fetched.  I mean at the time it was such a relatively obscure project with few users, why go to such lengths to hide your identity?  There's no way he could have known it would get this big.

[acid_rain]

the whole fact that EVERYONE involved with btc claims to have never met "satoshi" but only communicated with "him" though this forum or email does seem strange to me.  If you read about edward snowden he used similar tactics (he was a CIA agent) to hide his identity until he knew it was safe to talk to the journalists he was communicating with.

Then again, maybe they all have met satoshi and are just saying they "never met him" to keep the whole secrecy thing in tact

I think we are overthinking this, a couple years ago on a forum there was a guy who acted just like that. Nobody knew his real name or any information and he only communicated via forums and occasionally email. Some people are very concerned about their privacy.

Yes, lots of people value their privacy, but to go to those lengths that "satoshi" did to keep his identity private to those he was WORKING DIRECTLY WITH and handing over the control of the forum/ control of bitcoin seem far fetched.  I mean at the time it was such a relatively obscure project with few users, why go to such lengths to hide your identity?  There's no way he could have known it would get this big.

Coming to think of it, why did he go to such lengths, and even after it became so big, why not take credit and be hailed as a hero? He wouldn't be prosecuted like Snowden would be. There is nothing to lose and everything to gain.

[hoewer4what]

Bitcoin, if it were to gain mainstream adoption, would be the end of the NSA/CIA/governments/wars/etc.

I would love you to explain why you think it would be the end of NSA/CIA/GOVT and (WARS) please tell me you don't believe this fairytale?

OP I doubt very much he has anything to do with either 3 letter agency who want to use the miners to crack passwords, they can already do this without the need for so much hashing power. Plus where is it going to be hid in open source?

 

[dblink]

What if bitcoin miners are being used to generate rainbow tables for cracking password hashes. It is a known fact that with a rainbow table you can crack a password hash in seconds rather than years, and in big-O notation brute-forcing passwords takes O(n²) time which would also take years for a 14+ character password.

I guess, there is no way that Satoshi Nakamoto belongs to Central Intelligence Agency or National Security Agency, If it is then Satoshi wouldn't be supporting Julian Assange during his crisis when U.S has banned him regards to his money or fund transactions through the main banks all over the world.

[MF Doom]

the whole fact that EVERYONE involved with btc claims to have never met "satoshi" but only communicated with "him" though this forum or email does seem strange to me.  If you read about edward snowden he used similar tactics (he was a CIA agent) to hide his identity until he knew it was safe to talk to the journalists he was communicating with.

Then again, maybe they all have met satoshi and are just saying they "never met him" to keep the whole secrecy thing in tact

I think we are overthinking this, a couple years ago on a forum there was a guy who acted just like that. Nobody knew his real name or any information and he only communicated via forums and occasionally email. Some people are very concerned about their privacy.

Yes, lots of people value their privacy, but to go to those lengths that "satoshi" did to keep his identity private to those he was WORKING DIRECTLY WITH and handing over the control of the forum/ control of bitcoin seem far fetched.  I mean at the time it was such a relatively obscure project with few users, why go to such lengths to hide your identity?  There's no way he could have known it would get this big.

Coming to think of it, why did he go to such lengths, and even after it became so big, why not take credit and be hailed as a hero? He wouldn't be prosecuted like Snowden would be. There is nothing to lose and everything to gain.

probably because if he did have some sort of cia/nsa connection, he would know that he would be targeted (just like snowden).  And he would know that the us govt/bankers do not like competition to the usd, which btc is.

[acid_rain]

What if bitcoin miners are being used to generate rainbow tables for cracking password hashes. It is a known fact that with a rainbow table you can crack a password hash in seconds rather than years, and in big-O notation brute-forcing passwords takes O(n²) time which would also take years for a 14+ character password.

I guess, there is no way that Satoshi Nakamoto belongs to Central Intelligence Agency or National Security Agency, If it is then Satoshi wouldn't be supporting Julian Assange during his crisis when U.S has banned him regards to his money or fund transactions through the main banks all over the world.

Sir, I think you have it backwards. Can you post a link or a reference to this?

[jonald_fyookball]

What if bitcoin miners are being used to generate rainbow tables for cracking password hashes.

No.  They're not.

Anyway, try entering a wrong password more than 3 times on your online credit card or banking site.
See what happens.

[Acidyo]

God the title of the thread caught my attention so much, is actually pretty interesting and it could make has a movie a rough coder goes against the government to create a financial revolution.