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July 04, 2015, 07:01:01 PM |
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i think that once Amazon integrates BTC, that we should see an increase in price because there will probably be so many more BTC transactions per day, and so many more BTC needed worldwide
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chesthing
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July 04, 2015, 07:07:55 PM |
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How the hell does Hyena make that conclusion based on that incredibly vague, form letter response?
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BrewCrewFan
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July 04, 2015, 07:18:47 PM |
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Contacted their customer support today with the following message: Hi!
I can only pay with bitcoins but you don't accept that payment method. I also cannot exchange the bitcoins for a gift card on a 3rd party web service because none of them is currently online. Please integrate with bitpay or start accepting bitcoin payments directly so that I can order from your site.
Got this answer: Hello,
I'm sorry if we did not meet your expectations. Unfortunately, we don't process Bit Coins. However, I sent your inquiry and suggestion to the higher managements since this is not the first suggestion from a customer. We do hope that in the near future, we may be able to provide payments in all kind of payment methods.
I don't think this will happen in the future. Bitcoin is clearly irreversible. It can show the data of the receiver or sender yes and it can't be anonymous but these kind of sites just don't deal with payment processors that both the buyers and sellers and THEM wont benefit. Really? Why not? Newegg take bitcoin and they are one of the major retailers for computer hardware.
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Zorrocoin
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July 05, 2015, 08:37:16 AM |
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Contacted their customer support today with the following message: Hi!
I can only pay with bitcoins but you don't accept that payment method. I also cannot exchange the bitcoins for a gift card on a 3rd party web service because none of them is currently online. Please integrate with bitpay or start accepting bitcoin payments directly so that I can order from your site.
Got this answer: Hello,
I'm sorry if we did not meet your expectations. Unfortunately, we don't process Bit Coins. However, I sent your inquiry and suggestion to the higher managements since this is not the first suggestion from a customer. We do hope that in the near future, we may be able to provide payments in all kind of payment methods.
That would be incredible because I use Amazon all the friggin' time and payment with bitcoin has been my goal since a long time. Soon, we may see a lot of websites and other resources using bitcoin as a currency. That is great news. Go, BITCOIN!
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July 06, 2015, 04:49:01 PM |
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I don't think this will happen in the future. Bitcoin is clearly irreversible. It can show the data of the receiver or sender yes and it can't be anonymous but these kind of sites just don't deal with payment processors that both the buyers and sellers and THEM wont benefit.
Well... The fact that bitcoin is irreversible is one of the strongest advantages for Amazon. It eliminates the risk of fraud and allows them to ship with absolute confidence. With a credit card purchase the item is often shipped before the bank can confirm the credit account. That takes 2-30 days and by then the thief is long gone. As far s not being anonymous, well... that is not quite correct. If you know what your doing you can use bitcoin in an anonymous way. But that does not matter to the receiver because they could care less who you are. What matters is that you paid. In fact who cares if it was you that paid, as long as payment was received. So what are the benefits? For me (the customer) the best benefit is privacy. Each time you use your credit card online you expose everything needed to steal more of your money. And you give this information to the business, the payment processor, and anyone else who is observing the transaction, hacking the server,... who knows? I don't use anything except bitcoin anymore online. In brick-n-mortar stores I still have to use the CC, and in the last year alone I have been issued new cards three times due to breaches. For the business the greatest advantage is money. They lose 3% on each transaction with a credit card. If they use a bitcoin payment processor they have to give up between 0%-1%. They also like getting out of the liability of holding peoples CC information and the low risk of accepting what is essentially a cash transaction. All these advantages and the extremely low bar to entry make me think they will have to accept BTC at some point. They have already lost my business and won't get it back until they take bitcoin.
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July 06, 2015, 04:55:11 PM |
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So what are the benefits? For me (the customer) the best benefit is privacy. Each time you use your credit card online you expose everything needed to steal more of your money. And you give this information to the business, the payment processor, and anyone else who is observing the transaction, hacking the server,... who knows? I don't use anything except bitcoin anymore online. In brick-n-mortar stores I still have to use the CC, and in the last year alone I have been issued new cards three times due to breaches.
For the business the greatest advantage is money. They lose 3% on each transaction with a credit card. If they use a bitcoin payment processor they have to give up between 0%-1%. They also like getting out of the liability of holding peoples CC information and the low risk of accepting what is essentially a cash transaction. All these advantages and the extremely low bar to entry make me think they will have to accept BTC at some point. They have already lost my business and won't get it back until they take bitcoin.
It's the credit card companies who pick up the bill for data breaches. It does suck but I don't think people can be bothered to think it through enough for it to be a problem for them. I seriously doubt Amazon pays that percentage on cards. The EU is proposing a 0.2% cap on card charges. The US does seem to be in the stone age when it comes to financial stuff so maybe they do pay more. Irreversibility and instant funding are definitely huge boons for retailers. Still gotta figure out how to make it appeal for their customers. I don't think margins are big enough to offer the sexiest discounts.
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July 06, 2015, 05:14:05 PM |
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It's the credit card companies who pick up the bill for data breaches. It does suck but I don't think people can be bothered to think it through enough for it to be a problem for them.
I seriously doubt Amazon pays that percentage on cards. The EU is proposing a 0.2% cap on card charges. The US does seem to be in the stone age when it comes to financial stuff so maybe they do pay more.
Irreversibility and instant funding are definitely huge boons for retailers. Still gotta figure out how to make it appeal for their customers. I don't think margins are big enough to offer the sexiest discounts.
I bet your right that Amazon is so huge that they have negotiated a better rate. But it can't be much better because they do have to pay for data breaches, not directly, but any business model requires someone else to pay other than the CC issuer. After all, this is not a public service so the issuer must pass on the insurance loss to the customer (in this case Amazon). The standard fee charged by MasterCard/Visa is 3%. I think businesses in America would love to only pay 0.2%, That is the lowest I have heard. Perhaps it is because we still use the extremely unsafe "magnetic stripe" cards?
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gentlemand
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July 06, 2015, 05:18:24 PM |
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I bet your right that Amazon is so huge that they have negotiated a better rate. But it can't be much better because they do have to pay for data breaches, not directly, but any business model requires someone else to pay other than the CC issuer. After all, this is not a public service so the issuer must pass on the insurance loss to the customer (in this case Amazon). The standard fee charged by MasterCard/Visa is 3%. I think businesses in America would love to only pay 0.2%, That is the lowest I have heard. Perhaps it is because we still use the extremely unsafe "magnetic stripe" cards?
Yes. It's all chip and pin in the UK plus stuff like contactless payments. I'm sure the rest of the EU isn't far behind or is ahead. I think it'll be 0.2 for debit cards and 0.3 for credit cards. As far as I know we don't get these enormous data breaches like the Target one either. Plenty of fraud still of course but not the giant examples. I've spent a fair bit of time in the US and was astounded at how backwards it is in terms of how everyday finance works there. In the UK ATMs are mainly free. Bank transfers are free and not far off instant. International transfers don't hang about either.
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July 09, 2015, 04:50:47 PM |
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i had once sent same kind of email to them for including paypal account. paypal being one of the most trusted online payment system, amazon still doesnt have paypal. i doubt that near they keep telling to people. amazon will only start accepting bits if there is some profit to them. untill then use other payment options :p
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July 09, 2015, 05:30:29 PM |
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i had once sent same kind of email to them for including paypal account. paypal being one of the most trusted online payment system, amazon still doesnt have paypal. i doubt that near they keep telling to people. amazon will only start accepting bits if there is some profit to them. untill then use other payment options :p
Amazon probably doesn't accept Paypal because of how easy it is to commit fraud with it and do charegbacks, not to mention very high fees. I mean, if people have a paypal account then 99% of people who use it have a debit or credit card linked so why not just use your card directly on amazon?
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JarvisTechnology
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July 09, 2015, 05:40:27 PM |
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Amazon people are lethargic when it comes to the execution of the suggestions. Amazon doesn't even provide proper Paypal support. About Bitcoin , i think it will take close to 5 years to get into its payment options list. But then again , we should never stop hoping for the best.Bitcoin and Amazon will make an efficient combination because they both are customer friendly.
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July 09, 2015, 05:43:22 PM |
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I can not see this happening, it is not a large companies nature to change their business model. What does amazon have to benefit in accepting a new way for payments? This would hinder their own gift cards. That support tech told you this to not have anymore discussion about it.
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July 11, 2015, 06:40:16 PM |
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I buy a lot of things from Amazon. I'd switch to paying with Bitcoin if they did.
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July 11, 2015, 07:16:56 PM |
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Contacted their customer support today with the following message: Hi!
I can only pay with bitcoins but you don't accept that payment method. I also cannot exchange the bitcoins for a gift card on a 3rd party web service because none of them is currently online. Please integrate with bitpay or start accepting bitcoin payments directly so that I can order from your site.
Got this answer: Hello,
I'm sorry if we did not meet your expectations. Unfortunately, we don't process Bit Coins. However, I sent your inquiry and suggestion to the higher managements since this is not the first suggestion from a customer. We do hope that in the near future, we may be able to provide payments in all kind of payment methods.
You can already use bitcoin to buy at Amazon using Purse.io. I outlined the procedure at how to use Purse.io to buy From Amazon Using bitcoin.
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July 12, 2015, 06:15:52 PM |
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If Amazon started accepting Bitcoin payments then that would make Bitcoin much more useful as a currency. I would happily purchase on amazon if it was directly with Bitcoin, because I would much rather use Bitcoin to make payments instead of some other service like Paypal for example.
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BrewCrewFan
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July 12, 2015, 07:35:19 PM |
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So what are the benefits? For me (the customer) the best benefit is privacy. Each time you use your credit card online you expose everything needed to steal more of your money. And you give this information to the business, the payment processor, and anyone else who is observing the transaction, hacking the server,... who knows? I don't use anything except bitcoin anymore online. In brick-n-mortar stores I still have to use the CC, and in the last year alone I have been issued new cards three times due to breaches.
For the business the greatest advantage is money. They lose 3% on each transaction with a credit card. If they use a bitcoin payment processor they have to give up between 0%-1%. They also like getting out of the liability of holding peoples CC information and the low risk of accepting what is essentially a cash transaction. All these advantages and the extremely low bar to entry make me think they will have to accept BTC at some point. They have already lost my business and won't get it back until they take bitcoin.
It's the credit card companies who pick up the bill for data breaches. It does suck but I don't think people can be bothered to think it through enough for it to be a problem for them. I seriously doubt Amazon pays that percentage on cards. The EU is proposing a 0.2% cap on card charges. The US does seem to be in the stone age when it comes to financial stuff so maybe they do pay more. Irreversibility and instant funding are definitely huge boons for retailers. Still gotta figure out how to make it appeal for their customers. I don't think margins are big enough to offer the sexiest discounts. First, you do not realize the damage to the name if there is a breach. How do you think target did as an example. No one hears about the CC company that got hacked, its the company that did, be it Amazon, Shopko, Wendys... ect. Another thing, I can bet Amazon does pay high per transaction fee to the card companies or have a "bulk" discount, but its gonna be at least 2%. The reason why you will never know exactly is because they are bound to terms I am sure where they can not publicly discuss it. If it was that low, they would be able to discuss it because it would make the cc companies look great. A cap will do nothing, cept now the card companies will shift the cost to something else, interest, annual fees... there is a whole lotta stuff they can raise in order to offset the cap loss.
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July 12, 2015, 09:00:04 PM |
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I can not see this happening, it is not a large companies nature to change their business model. What does amazon have to benefit in accepting a new way for payments? This would hinder their own gift cards. That support tech told you this to not have anymore discussion about it.
Another increasing group of potential customers, that's what they have to gain. They can still convert it to fiat immediately.
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July 12, 2015, 11:27:42 PM |
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If Amazon started accepting Bitcoin payments then that would make Bitcoin much more useful as a currency. I would happily purchase on amazon if it was directly with Bitcoin, because I would much rather use Bitcoin to make payments instead of some other service like Paypal for example.
I'm pretty sure Amazon has this on the agenda. Give them another year
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Dissonance
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July 13, 2015, 03:14:11 AM |
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While it would be great to use bitcoin on amazon. I wouldn't do it when you can use bitcoin at gyft.com/ egifter.com and get 3% cashback for buying amazon e-giftcards.
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July 13, 2015, 09:44:12 AM |
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I prefer using purse.io to get 20-35% off of my Amazon purchases (can do up to 50% but have never had such an order filled).
Just bought a laptop on Amazon (Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Carbon 20A70037US): List Price: $2,099.00 Price: $1,499.99 & FREE Shipping You Save: $599.01
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First seastead company actually selling sea homes: Ocean Builders https://ocean.builders Of course we accept bitcoin.
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