transaction with zero fee

[sun64986161]

now we know why the transaction can't confirmed perfect

Warning! this transaction is a double spend. You should be extremely careful when trusting any transactions to/from this sender. 91755764
https://blockchain.info/tx-index/91755764

[ranochigo]

now we know why the transaction can't confirmed perfect

Warning! this transaction is a double spend. You should be extremely careful when trusting any transactions to/from this sender. 91755764
https://blockchain.info/tx-index/91755764

Read the whole thread first please and avoid posting posts without meaning. The double spend is a result of OP spending from the same input of a transaction that was supposedly forgotten by the mempool. The new transaction is here https://blockchain.info/tx/e56440fd36d11415bb2cb6db835139a09034cbfc8eb7866fc619ba7ac149786a

[Hexcoin]

Transaction with zero fee its a awesome idea can be in the banking systems. Will be revolution in the economical world and everyone will do very appropriate and other side in the banking systems will become destroy if it is possible.  Everybody want to get  skip from this banking high transactional fee systems as well as normally. For all kinds of people its can be very useful and essentials,  how sooner as possible its should be available in banking line..

Well its absolutely very appreciate to  transaction with zero fee its a awesome idea can be in the banking systems. Will be revolution in the economical world and everyone will do very appropriate and other side in the banking systems will become destroy if it is possible.  Everybody want to get  skip from this banking high transactional fee systems as well as normally. For all kinds of people its can be very useful and essentials,  how sooner as possible its should be available in banking line peoples will much appreciate about this great opportunities.   

Reported. Quoted for referrence.

[d4n13]

I made a proposal to have "bounty" transactions crafted that would incentive miners to pick up someone's stale transaction.

Possibly better than re-sending and starting a "double spend" war.

Proposal: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-July/009304.html
PrettyPrint: https://github.com/d4n13/bips/blob/master/bip-00nn.mediawiki

[Xialla]

ahh, now in same shoes like OP since yesterday:) anyway, size is just 192 bytes and 0.1BTC

https://blockchain.info/tx/422e8d93ea7772297343fc2a939c6358022d99b45c7703d23bc81400c4d93072

any idea what to do except waiting or praying?

[zazarb]

ahh, now in same shoes like OP since yesterday:) anyway, size is just 192 bytes and 0.1BTC

https://blockchain.info/tx/422e8d93ea7772297343fc2a939c6358022d99b45c7703d23bc81400c4d93072

any idea what to do except waiting or praying?

I think you follow my footsteps , so much faster.
cheers

[d4n13]

any idea what to do except waiting or praying?

Yes... I'm thinking this might work...

Proposal: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-July/009304.html
PrettyPrint: https://github.com/d4n13/bips/blob/master/bip-00nn.mediawiki

Basic Idea is that you swipe the unconfirmed transaction to another address you own.  Most wallets actually have many addresses in the pool.  Anyway, when you swipe the unconfirmed transaction, you put a real juicy TX fee on your swipe TX.  Point is for a miner to claim the juicy swipe TX, they have to confirm your floating TX with it.

Basically you pay a bounty for a miner to mine your incoming transactions.  That's the BIP anyway.

I know I sound like a broken record on this, hopefully once I run some tests on testnet3 I can back it up with some code or results... Just a proposal based on theory right now.

EDIT On Bitcoin-Qt v0.10.2, when you prepare your SEND transaction, there is a button for "Choose Fee".  Default is 25 blocks for confirmation, if you max it out, it claims you will get confirmations in 1 block.

[Xialla]

ahh, nevermind, transaction has been confirmed couple of hours ago (after almost 2 days). next time, I will do it on purpose and try to swipe it:)

[ranochigo]

any idea what to do except waiting or praying?

Yes... I'm thinking this might work...

Proposal: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-July/009304.html
PrettyPrint: https://github.com/d4n13/bips/blob/master/bip-00nn.mediawiki

Basic Idea is that you swipe the unconfirmed transaction to another address you own.  Most wallets actually have many addresses in the pool.  Anyway, when you swipe the unconfirmed transaction, you put a real juicy TX fee on your swipe TX.  Point is for a miner to claim the juicy swipe TX, they have to confirm your floating TX with it.

Basically you pay a bounty for a miner to mine your incoming transactions.  That's the BIP anyway.

I know I sound like a broken record on this, hopefully once I run some tests on testnet3 I can back it up with some code or results... Just a proposal based on theory right now.

EDIT On Bitcoin-Qt v0.10.2, when you prepare your SEND transaction, there is a button for "Choose Fee".  Default is 25 blocks for confirmation, if you max it out, it claims you will get confirmations in 1 block.

Isn't there something called the replace by fee patch which miners can accept the transaction with more fee than the transaction with less fee? Most mining pool didn't implement that. IIRC, most miners only accept the transaction which reaches their node first and most nodes only relay transactions with inputs that aren't already in your mempool. The 1 block fee can be quite high if the network load is high. If an attacker stresses the network with high fees, your transactions will get pushed down to the bottom unless you are willing to pay a premium.

ahh, now in same shoes like OP since yesterday:) anyway, size is just 192 bytes and 0.1BTC

https://blockchain.info/tx/422e8d93ea7772297343fc2a939c6358022d99b45c7703d23bc81400c4d93072

any idea what to do except waiting or praying?

Nothing. Even though it is small and the outputs are of a good size, your coin age is low. The coin age resets everytime the inputs is used so your input's coin age gets low. If you want fast confirmation, use at least 0.00001 BTC as a fee.

[buddiprasetyo]

https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/c6e75325c6de22f7bacd2e1369e4067bfbde87fec4af8ca13b407de21a985ecf
my trx still unconfirmed trasaction in 60 hours ,

frustation

[d4n13]

Isn't there something called the replace by fee patch which miners can accept the transaction with more fee than the transaction with less fee? Most mining pool didn't implement that. IIRC, most miners only accept the transaction which reaches their node first and most nodes only relay transactions with inputs that aren't already in your mempool. The 1 block fee can be quite high if the network load is high. If an attacker stresses the network with high fees, your transactions will get pushed down to the bottom unless you are willing to pay a premium.

IRC, RBF could be done either as a kind of double spend (term was actually countermeasure), or a type of multisig.  In the countermeasure you broadcast a TX with higher fees to "replace" the one with lower fees.  There is some magic that has to happen on the input output balancing to make it fraud resistant.

The multisig RBF case is where you allow people to add inputs to the transaction to cover fees.  Requires a special sig bit.

CPFP seems to be implemented on Eligius pool, so if you attempt a CPFP then you have a fair chance that Eligius will pick it up whenever the win a block.

That is exactlly what happened with this transaction.  Eventually Eligius picked it up.
https://blockchain.info/tx/4cc3e2b6407ae8cdc1fd62cb3235f9c92654277684da8970db19a0169e44c68c

https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/c6e75325c6de22f7bacd2e1369e4067bfbde87fec4af8ca13b407de21a985ecf
my trx still unconfirmed trasaction in 60 hours ,

Still got you beat... going on 4 days
[89 hrs] Who has the mempool unconfirmed TX highscore? [week of Jul 5th]

I'm tempted to sweep it, but don't want to loose my high score

[josephno1]

I don't really know if it even worth it to try to send a transaction with no fee. I've heard stories where I might take like 4 days or more for the transaction to confirm. I mean the total savings that you get $.05 USD and I know money is tight in this economy but in my opinion, it really isn't worth the savings

[zazarb]

I don't really know if it even worth it to try to send a transaction with no fee. I've heard stories where I might take like 4 days or more for the transaction to confirm. I mean the total savings that you get $.05 USD and I know money is tight in this economy but in my opinion, it really isn't worth the savings

all very conditional, $ 5 cent not big loss if you sometime send hundreds $ , but huge, if you daytrade with small amount. ( exp.: 5 cent =5% from $1)

[Caesium]

Just wait for a week or two, and your trans. will be confirmed 

The next post I see from you like this will be reported to the signature campaign owners you're in.

[zazarb]

because the problem is solved, that to avoid spamming I lock this topic.