transaction with zero fee

[zazarb]

hello
I have send 0.03btc for blockchain.info wallet with zero fee, and second day not get any one confirmation
https://blockchain.info/tx/3a1657951df6fd70420f1d769cea1f3c413240fb898bbee08ea028547be4459e
how max long is can take? or possible that I lose they?
thanks

[unamis76]

With zero fee, it can take a very long time. It's not possible to lose, you can try to respend the output if it does not confirm

[jbrnt]

0.03btc is too little an amount to send feeless. The uncomfirmed transaction pool is fairly full recently, you need really high priority to get your free transaction included in blocks. There is nothing you can do now except wait, you could get lucky. You should have waited for 1 or 2 months before sending them.

[Hexcoin]

hello
I have send 0.03btc for blockchain.info wallet with zero fee, and second day not get any one confirmation
https://blockchain.info/tx/3a1657951df6fd70420f1d769cea1f3c413240fb898bbee08ea028547be4459e
how max long is can take? or possible that I lose they?
thanks

AFAIK transactions less than .01 and without fees will take weeks or maybe months but in your case, based on what ive read somewhere in this forum, that will get confirmation in average of 24blocks. im not quite sure why it took you 2days and until now it is unconfirmed

[ranochigo]

hello
I have send 0.03btc for blockchain.info wallet with zero fee, and second day not get any one confirmation
https://blockchain.info/tx/3a1657951df6fd70420f1d769cea1f3c413240fb898bbee08ea028547be4459e
how max long is can take? or possible that I lose they?
thanks

I tried sending 0.16BTC yesterday and it was confirmed serveral hours later. It had a medium-high priority due to the coin age. You transaction has a priority of 5,921,875, (3,000,000*370)/192. The minimum priority required for a high priority is around 28,800,000. I had mine above that priority yesterday but it wasn't confirmed fast enough due to the network load. There was a stress test going on yesterday which resulted in a spike of unconfirmed transaction. The inclusion 50kb free transaction size is by the ranking of the priority. Your's may be abit lower. Include a fee next time.

[Zorrocoin]

if you send tx with zero fees then there is no fixed time it will take for confirmations
it may take hours,days or may be it will never confirmed.
always send transaction with fees to support the nextwork and miners

[bitbaby]

hello
I have send 0.03btc for blockchain.info wallet with zero fee, and second day not get any one confirmation
https://blockchain.info/tx/3a1657951df6fd70420f1d769cea1f3c413240fb898bbee08ea028547be4459e
how max long is can take? or possible that I lose they?
thanks

I tried sending 0.16BTC yesterday and it was confirmed serveral hours later. It had a medium-high priority due to the coin age. You transaction has a priority of 5,921,875, (3,000,000*370)/192. The minimum priority required for a high priority is around 28,800,000. I had mine above that priority yesterday but it wasn't confirmed fast enough due to the network load. There was a stress test going on yesterday which resulted in a spike of unconfirmed transaction. The inclusion 50kb free transaction size is by the ranking of the priority. Your's may be abit lower. Include a fee next time.

That's correct, due to the blockchain stress test even the transaction which have the right amount of fee and are shown on blockexplorer as high priority are taking way more time than normal to confirm, I receieved some funds yesterday from someone and although it did had the correct fee attached, it took 3 blocks to get the 1st confirmation.

So OP yours might take a while because due to stress test all the transaction with low fee will be given much less priority. You won't lose the funds, either it will get through or the funds will get back in your wallet. And might I know whether it was a mistake or you deliberately chose to send the transaction without any fee? You shouldn't do that 0.0001 BTC by current rate is $ 0.024, which is nothing, kindly add proper fee from next time.

[zazarb]

thanks all for explanation, yes $0.02 is not big amount, but if I clicking every day btc foucet for 100 satoshi , I do not want to lose it 10k-100k satoshi for every transaction , I looked wallet with min fee, and found that in  blockchain.info you can choose settings. It was my first outgoing  transaction.

With zero fee, it can take a very long time. It's not possible to lose, you can try to respend the output if it does not confirm

how respend?

[ranochigo]

thanks all for explanation, yes $0.02 0.02BTC is not big amount, but if I clicking every day btc faucet for 100 satoshi , I do not want to lose it 10k-100k satoshi for every transaction , I looked wallet with min fee, and found that in  blockchain.info you can choose settings. It was my first outgoing  transaction.

With zero fee, it can take a very long time. It's not possible to lose, you can try to respend the output if it does not confirm

how respend?

You can't respend a transaction that has proporgated well over the network. If the transaction is well proporgated and every miner and node have the transaction in their mempool, the nodes will all reject the second transaction and refuse to broadcast it. After a while, the entire network will drop your transaction from the mempool and the network will "forget" your transaction. You can then spend the transaction again with a fee. For blockchain.info, it would be around 24 hours. It defers for every client since many of them continuously broadcast your transaction even when it is dropped out of the mempool.

[sun64986161]

hello
I have send 0.03btc for blockchain.info wallet with zero fee, and second day not get any one confirmation
https://blockchain.info/tx/3a1657951df6fd70420f1d769cea1f3c413240fb898bbee08ea028547be4459e
how max long is can take? or possible that I lose they?
thanks

why u use blockchain if you not want to pay fee transaction, u an use another service like coinbase, xapo with only 0%fee (0satosi)
if you want to get less fee than blockchain u can use block.io only 1000satosi/transaction and multisign adress

[ranochigo]

hello
I have send 0.03btc for blockchain.info wallet with zero fee, and second day not get any one confirmation
https://blockchain.info/tx/3a1657951df6fd70420f1d769cea1f3c413240fb898bbee08ea028547be4459e
how max long is can take? or possible that I lose they?
thanks

why u use blockchain if you not want to pay fee transaction, u an use another service like coinbase, xapo with only 0%fee (0satosi)
if you want to get less fee than blockchain u can use block.io only 1000satosi/transaction and multisign adress

Coinbase, xapo etc don't allow you to control your own private key. If they gets shut down or hacked, you would have no way to recover your coins. [Not implying that blockchain.info is better but wallets like blockchain.info are safer etc. greenaddress.it.] Blockchain.info's fee can be specified under the custom send and you can set it to anything you want.

[zazarb]

hello
I have send 0.03btc for blockchain.info wallet with zero fee, and second day not get any one confirmation
https://blockchain.info/tx/3a1657951df6fd70420f1d769cea1f3c413240fb898bbee08ea028547be4459e
how max long is can take? or possible that I lose they?
thanks

why u use blockchain if you not want to pay fee transaction, u an use another service like coinbase, xapo with only 0%fee (0satosi)
if you want to get less fee than blockchain u can use block.io only 1000satosi/transaction and multisign adress

I have account in xapo(not much trust, only small amount) , and long time have used coinbase,but it not always fee free and me not like interface- rounded amounts...

[sun64986161]

Coinbase, xapo etc don't allow you to control your own private key. If they gets shut down or hacked, you would have no way to recover your coins. [Not implying that blockchain.info is better but wallets like blockchain.info are safer etc. greenaddress.it.] Blockchain.info's fee can be specified under the custom send and you can set it to anything you want.

i know it just another way if he not want to transfer with fee, i use xapo too but only for mixing my coin
coinbase is not bad he can give me acces publick key not for private key..

I have account in xapo(not much trust, only small amount) , and long time have used coinbase,but it not always fee free and me not like interface- rounded amounts...

im use Blockchain, xapo, circle, coinbase, block.io, and some on exchanger
My main wallet is coinbase thatn blockchain, i like coinbase 2fa with sms notification for log in and for send BTC that make me feel safe from hacker because someday hacker get acces my gmail (2fa with authy chrome add ons) and i lose my balance on blockchain too



anyway your transaction need more than 24hours to get 1confirmation

[Xialla]

if you send tx with zero fees then there is no fixed time it will take for confirmations
it may take hours,days or may be it will never confirmed.
always send transaction with fees to support the nextwork and miners

what you mean "never"? like never ever? Is technically possible, that TX with 0 fee will never be confirmed? I really don't think so..

[mahi4ever]

Transaction fee is taken but if it is without transaction fees then it might take some time.

[zazarb]

Transaction fee is taken but if it is without transaction fees then it might take some time.

"some time"- pass over 48 hours and nothing

[jonnybravo0311]

if you send tx with zero fees then there is no fixed time it will take for confirmations
it may take hours,days or may be it will never confirmed.
always send transaction with fees to support the nextwork and miners

what you mean "never"? like never ever? Is technically possible, that TX with 0 fee will never be confirmed? I really don't think so..

You had to throw that word "technically" in there, didn't you?

Whether a transaction is included is completely up to the miner, or the pool if it is delegating work.  Technically, miners could not ever bother to confirm a transaction with no fees, since it offers no incentives to do so.  Now, if you generated that transaction from the core software, it will continually rebroadcast it.  Other wallets will at some point in time stop broadcasting it.

[RodeoX]

As a side note: This will become more of an issue as the block reward goes down and miners become more dependent on fees. I would not get into the habit of sending zero fee Tx's.

[Xialla]

if you send tx with zero fees then there is no fixed time it will take for confirmations
it may take hours,days or may be it will never confirmed.
always send transaction with fees to support the nextwork and miners

what you mean "never"? like never ever? Is technically possible, that TX with 0 fee will never be confirmed? I really don't think so..

You had to throw that word "technically" in there, didn't you?

Whether a transaction is included is completely up to the miner, or the pool if it is delegating work.  Technically, miners could not ever bother to confirm a transaction with no fees, since it offers no incentives to do so.  Now, if you generated that transaction from the core software, it will continually rebroadcast it.  Other wallets will at some point in time stop broadcasting it.

yeah, I had to, because humans statements "never" is little bit different than technically "never" .))

anyway, thanks for explanation...I really didn't expect that 0 fee TX may take 2 days.. SEPA within Europe is faster and free (at least in my bank) omg..

[jbrnt]

Transaction fee is taken but if it is without transaction fees then it might take some time.

"some time"- pass over 48 hours and nothing

Your transaction is gone from blockchain.info:
https://blockchain.info/tx/3a1657951df6fd70420f1d769cea1f3c413240fb898bbee08ea028547be4459e

But still available on 2 other blockexplorers:
http://btc.blockr.io/tx/info/3a1657951df6fd70420f1d769cea1f3c413240fb898bbee08ea028547be4459e
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/3a1657951df6fd70420f1d769cea1f3c413240fb898bbee08ea028547be4459e

If you do not broadcast the transaction again, I think it will most likely be dropped from mempool soon. When it does, create new transaction and remember to add a fee. You said you used blockchain.info wallet to send that transaction, login in your wallet and see if the unconfirmed transaction is gone from your history.