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the stress tests are that if one person making just 1 transaction a second, can cause other peoples tx's to be bottle-necked and delayed.... then waiting for a year until the demand actually forces a upgrade is just waiting for the problem before looking for the best solution... We're nowhere close: https://blockchain.info/charts/avg-block-sizeI think everyone agrees a solution needs to be found, but we're not in "panic mode" right now, which is what some people seem to assume for some reason, and others are trying to take advantage of that assumption. |
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turvarya
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June 30, 2015, 07:33:57 AM |
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This thread is really a display about how people speak about stuff, they don't have any idea about.
Testing in a test environment is sufficient?
Where did you get that idea from? A children picture book?
There are tests you just can't make in an test environment. Everybody who worked in software development for some time, knows that.
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June 30, 2015, 07:52:56 AM |
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This thread is really a display about how people speak about stuff, they don't have any idea about.
Testing in a test environment is sufficient?
Where did you get that idea from? A children picture book?
There are tests you just can't make in an test environment. Everybody who worked in software development for some time, knows that.
Yes, you are correct. I was a bit enraged at first about the whole idea to spam the network. Now after the first test was somewhat successful, but fell a bit short and the 2nd test I did not even notice I am more relaxed. I never had any doubt the network could not endure this stress test, I was just questioning how we humans using it would cope with it. Many people are already antsy when their TX takes 30 minutes. Overall this was a very positive signal for me. Even 3 hours waiting time did not result in many more threads, complaining about it. All in all I still think the test was proving a point that was already well established. We need bigger blocks for bitcoin to grow further. On the other hand it also showed that 1MB can do much more than we might currently give blocks that size credit for. |
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June 30, 2015, 08:12:51 AM |
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the stress tests are that if one person making just 1 transaction a second, can cause other peoples tx's to be bottle-necked and delayed....
The test has shown that if one person try to delay other transactions by sending spam, then this spam and other spam gets delayed. Proving a small block size prevents the network from getting flooded by malicious spam. None of my normal low fee transactions got delayed. During her previous malicious spam campaign, I even got a zero-fee transaction confirmed on the first block. Normal priority transactions will confirm, spam is delayed. Increasing the block size to store more transaction spam, would be the same as upgrading your email system to store more email spam. Filtering the spam is considered a much more sensible thing to do by most people. In this case filtering was easy, and the spam got very low priority. |
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June 30, 2015, 08:18:12 AM |
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Why the test failed this time?
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June 30, 2015, 10:51:55 AM |
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It seems not much was done... Maybe the servers failed again?
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June 30, 2015, 11:03:20 AM |
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It's happend ?  |
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June 30, 2015, 11:08:03 AM |
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KingAfurah, will the stress test happen today? What went wrong yesterday?
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June 30, 2015, 11:20:50 AM |
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KingAfurah, will the stress test happen today? What went wrong yesterday?
So the test failed? Or, the test will be run today? I found the previous test quite interestng and I was expecting to see updates on this test too. I guess I will have to wait. |
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June 30, 2015, 11:46:00 AM |
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KingAfurah, will the stress test happen today? What went wrong yesterday?
So the test failed? Or, the test will be run today? I found the previous test quite interestng and I was expecting to see updates on this test too. I guess I will have to wait. it was supposed to happen today, i haven't seen any time on the reddit announcement that i first saw. a week ago they said it is going to happen yesterday, and then it was postponed 1 more day for today. |
Weak hands have been complaining about missing out ever since bitcoin was $1 and never buy the dip.
Whales are those who keep buying the dip.
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June 30, 2015, 12:22:30 PM |
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the stress tests are that if one person making just 1 transaction a second, can cause other peoples tx's to be bottle-necked and delayed....
The test has shown that if one person try to delay other transactions by sending spam, then this spam and other spam gets delayed. Proving a small block size prevents the network from getting flooded by malicious spam. None of my normal low fee transactions got delayed. During her previous malicious spam campaign, I even got a zero-fee transaction confirmed on the first block. Normal priority transactions will confirm, spam is delayed. Increasing the block size to store more transaction spam, would be the same as upgrading your email system to store more email spam. Filtering the spam is considered a much more sensible thing to do by most people. In this case filtering was easy, and the spam got very low priority. And what happens after all the "spam" transactions are delayed and adoption has grown to a point where there still isn't enough room in a 1MB block for more "normal priority" fee paying transactions? That's right, the normal priority transactions will start to be delayed as well. What do you propose then? Or do you honestly believe roughly 10 minutes worth of transactions from all over the globe will continue to fit neatly into something smaller than a floppy disk for the rest of forever? |
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June 30, 2015, 12:24:10 PM |
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KingAfurah, will the stress test happen today? What went wrong yesterday?
So the test failed? Or, the test will be run today? I found the previous test quite interestng and I was expecting to see updates on this test too. I guess I will have to wait. it was supposed to happen today, i haven't seen any time on the reddit announcement that i first saw. a week ago they said it is going to happen yesterday, and then it was postponed 1 more day for today. So what happened yesterday? There were ~5 000 + unconfirmed transactions at a certain point. Due to re-scheduling, i would guess that the test was in fact initiated yesterday, as it was originally planned, but due to some issues it was moved for today. OP was last active yesterday; 2 hours and 8 minutes to go.
All 32 server are ready and connected.
but no info or updates since then. cheers |
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June 30, 2015, 12:40:30 PM |
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or ... Bitcoin network ban all his nodes after 10 minutes. so, it's good, too   |
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turvarya
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June 30, 2015, 12:41:03 PM |
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Maybe it was all a prank and they never really did anything. They just announced it and watched the chaos that would emerge from people panicking.
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June 30, 2015, 12:50:09 PM |
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Maybe it was all a prank and they never really did anything. They just announced it and watched the chaos that would emerge from people panicking.
They already did made a stress test on 22nd, you can read about results here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1094865.msg11700297#msg11700297There is no incentive for them to create panic if they were not serious and actually pull the stress test itself, since no one would take them seriously. Judging by the fact that there was increased number of transactions yesterday when they were supposed to start the test, and then it stopped and was re-scheduled for today, i would say something went wrong with it. cheers |
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June 30, 2015, 01:12:52 PM |
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i think we have to wait and see at this point , maybe there are some difficulties like the last time that their server crashed.
i am really interested to see what they will achieve , and prove with this test.
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Weak hands have been complaining about missing out ever since bitcoin was $1 and never buy the dip.
Whales are those who keep buying the dip.
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June 30, 2015, 02:04:08 PM
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So this time it only lasted for about 15 minutes. KingAfurah, will you continue with the test? What happened this time?
I think it is actually a very valuable endeavor.
Edit: Transactions are increasing again! Let's hope they reach full capacity.
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June 30, 2015, 02:25:39 PM |
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No word from OP still, but uncomfirmed transactions are increasing again as if the stress-testing is re-launched.
Total Fees 1.34750694 BTC
Total Size 6693.7958984375 (KB)
Almost at 6 000 unconfirmed transactions so far, i think this is it.
cheers
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June 30, 2015, 02:35:51 PM |
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Almost at 6 000 unconfirmed transactions so far, i think this is it.
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15 minutes ago, an miner fee estimate to get into the next block was around 0.00075. Yes, I think this is it as well. Hold on to your asses fellas.  |
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June 30, 2015, 02:41:23 PM |
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No that's still the backlog from the short 15 minute long spike of the actual test. Transaction number is still slightly elevated but FAR from what KingAfurah proposed for their test. Check: http://statoshi.info/dashboard/db/transactionsYou can see the spike of the actual test that occurred hours ago, but did not last very long. KingAfurah care to explain what's going on? |
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