[GROUP BUY][EU] PaperSafe - Satoshi Note [DONE]

[Mitchell]

How come?

Starting today I'll be at my GF (and I don't really like giving up her address), after which I'll visit my dad in Germany and go on vacation to Spain. I'll be busy all summer long. I'll ask my GF if she minds if I gave BG4 her address and if she does, I'll just send them to my home address and pick them up before I go to my dad and send them out before I go to Spain (which is two weeks apart, so that should be easily possible). Everything depends on how fast BG4 ships.

I'll do what I can.

[TheNewAnon135246]

How come?

Starting today I'll be at my GF (and I don't really like giving up her address), after which I'll visit my dad in Germany and go on vacation to Spain. I'll be busy all summer long. I'll ask my GF if she minds if I gave BG4 her address and if she does, I'll just send them to my home address and pick them up before I go to my dad and send them out before I go to Spain (which is two weeks apart, so that should be easily possible). Everything depends on how fast BG4 ships.

I'll do what I can.

I'm sure you will . No problem for me, I'll just wait patiently.

[fvs114]

How come?

Starting today I'll be at my GF (and I don't really like giving up her address), after which I'll visit my dad in Germany and go on vacation to Spain. I'll be busy all summer long. I'll ask my GF if she minds if I gave BG4 her address and if she does, I'll just send them to my home address and pick them up before I go to my dad and send them out before I go to Spain (which is two weeks apart, so that should be easily possible). Everything depends on how fast BG4 ships.

I'll do what I can.

It's OK with me. 

[hedgy73]

Its ok with me too .

[Mitchell]

I just noticed that I fucked up my calculations. I didn't include VAT nor the extra costs to the final price (they were in my excel sheet, but not used nor properly calculated). I'm really sorry, but I'll have to ask for more BTC. I have no idea why I didn't double check my calculations. This amounts posted below is how much each of you still owes me. Once again, sorry about this. BG4 can be paid with what I have right now, but it's not enough to cover shipping, extra costs and possible VAT.

Buyers username		Still owed
fvs114	:	0,03820189BTC
LitcoinCollector	:	0,03820189BTC
jdebunt	:	0,07640378BTC
hedgy73	:	0,07640378BTC
Fortify	:	0,03820189BTC
souspeed	:	0,03820189BTC
TheNewAnon135246	:	0,03820189BTC

Excel sheet with all the calculations: PaperSafe - Group buy.

[hedgy73]

No worries payment sent :

TxId: c32ca7df9921b316cd00673ee460504ec5bc95fcaadd2e28f2028c9e837bccab

[jdebunt]

Payment sent : https://blockchain.info/nl/tx/9423d963c5d4c633414a4c2459cb8f1b2db971dc6f617b1069b15fa5817d7266

[LitcoinCollector]

Sent
83b0480915deadb1f1135a4d20db714c680680c21330c1568bc7d8fa7eaa16af

[Mitchell]

No worries payment sent :

TxId: c32ca7df9921b316cd00673ee460504ec5bc95fcaadd2e28f2028c9e837bccab

Sent: https://blockchain.info/nl/tx/891c7dd3162c43269bd20602d640914b1901929b0b2d6ee66c209a858a5b22f1

payment send:
ec4faaecdafeb4f5f4dcde5d4ed006dd0d38668ef4ef673a4279ca1ed624ea76

Payment sent : https://blockchain.info/nl/tx/9423d963c5d4c633414a4c2459cb8f1b2db971dc6f617b1069b15fa5817d7266

Sent
83b0480915deadb1f1135a4d20db714c680680c21330c1568bc7d8fa7eaa16af

All of these have been received and confirmed. I've just paid BG4 and sent him an address where he can ship them to, so I should be able to forward them within two days once they get here. Once again sorry for this mess.

[hedgy73]

No worries payment sent :

TxId: c32ca7df9921b316cd00673ee460504ec5bc95fcaadd2e28f2028c9e837bccab

Sent: https://blockchain.info/nl/tx/891c7dd3162c43269bd20602d640914b1901929b0b2d6ee66c209a858a5b22f1

payment send:
ec4faaecdafeb4f5f4dcde5d4ed006dd0d38668ef4ef673a4279ca1ed624ea76

Payment sent : https://blockchain.info/nl/tx/9423d963c5d4c633414a4c2459cb8f1b2db971dc6f617b1069b15fa5817d7266

Sent
83b0480915deadb1f1135a4d20db714c680680c21330c1568bc7d8fa7eaa16af

All of these have been received and confirmed. I've just paid BG4 and sent him an address where he can ship them to, so I should be able to forward them within two days once they get here. Once again sorry for this mess.

No problem buddy shit happens thanks for sorting it out so quickly .

[Fortify]

Well I thought group buys were meant to make things cheaper but the extras are bringing it to 2x the price of the item. The payment..

https://blockchain.info/tx/6bca957d92f19a7bc624223cca81b3d7820a85773610ffded8ddb2ece20098ae

[Mitchell]

Well I thought group buys were meant to make things cheaper but the extras are bringing it to 2x the price of the item. Sending the payment shortly..

Group buys can make things cheaper if you get discounts for buying in bulk (Ravenbit). They are also handy if you need to purchase a certain amount before they ship outside of the USA (Kialara's). This group buy is, sadly, the only way to get the "PaperSafe - Satoshi Note" outside the USA and the extra costs are mostly precautions. VAT and disbursement fees are only paid if the Dutch customs check my package and decide I need to pay VAT over it and there is a 2% increase in the total price to account for price swings (for example, I sell the BTC cheap, to pay for shipping, and need to rebuy it at a higher rate). However, all leftovers will be returned and, to be honest, it's quite likely that there will be leftovers.

I'm sorry if you perceived it in any other way, because of how I presented it.
BG4 has just told me that the notes will be send tomorrow.

[TheNewAnon135246]

I'd rather pay a little extra and get a refund afterwards . Tbh, I've order a lot of things from outside Europe (also in bulk) and I have never had to pay VAT (or anything similar). Maybe I was just lucky . Did you have to pay VAT during the last Kialara group buy?

[LitcoinCollector]

Well I thought group buys were meant to make things cheaper but the extras are bringing it to 2x the price of the item. The payment..

https://blockchain.info/tx/6bca957d92f19a7bc624223cca81b3d7820a85773610ffded8ddb2ece20098ae

Well it is not dubbel. 35 dollar = 1,2 BTC. Don't forget the costs for posting from us and also in europe.
Also I think Mitchell should build in some margin to cover costs (vat, service, unexpected).
Thanks for putting this group buy together, or these great notes would not have come to europe.
Cheers

[Mitchell]

I'd rather pay a little extra and get a refund afterwards . Tbh, I've order a lot of things from outside Europe (also in bulk) and I have never had to pay VAT (or anything similar). Maybe I was just lucky . Did you have to pay VAT during the last Kialara group buy?

I had to pay VAT for all my previous Kialara group buys. However, I never had to pay any VAT over my China phones. The customs are extremely strange over here.

Well it is not dubbel. 35 dollar = 0,12 BTC. Don't forget the costs for posting from us and also in europe.
Also I think Mitchell should build in some margin to cover costs (vat, service, unexpected).
Thanks for putting this group buy together, or these great notes would not have come to europe.
Cheers

Shipping from BG4 to me is free as we got 10 notes in total, but yes, a lot of it is buffer against VAT, price swings, etc.

[Mitchell]

The package has been sent to me!

Update.... To anyone in the EU group Buy with Mitchell... The Package when out today..... from the U.S

The payment..

https://blockchain.info/tx/6bca957d92f19a7bc624223cca81b3d7820a85773610ffded8ddb2ece20098ae

Your payment has been confirmed. So I only need to get something from fvs114 right now.

[hedgy73]

Excellent news .

[fvs114]

The package has been sent to me!

Update.... To anyone in the EU group Buy with Mitchell... The Package when out today..... from the U.S

The payment..

https://blockchain.info/tx/6bca957d92f19a7bc624223cca81b3d7820a85773610ffded8ddb2ece20098ae

Your payment has been confirmed. So I only need to get something from fvs114 right now.

What do you need from me Mitchell ?  Address ?

[Mitchell]

What do you need from me Mitchell ?   Address ?

You must have missed this:

I just noticed that I fucked up my calculations. I didn't include VAT nor the extra costs to the final price (they were in my excel sheet, but not used nor properly calculated). I'm really sorry, but I'll have to ask for more BTC. I have no idea why I didn't double check my calculations. This amounts posted below is how much each of you still owes me. Once again, sorry about this. BG4 can be paid with what I have right now, but it's not enough to cover shipping, extra costs and possible VAT.

Buyers username		Still owed
fvs114	:	0,03820189BTC
LitcoinCollector	:	0,03820189BTC
jdebunt	:	0,07640378BTC
hedgy73	:	0,07640378BTC
Fortify	:	0,03820189BTC
souspeed	:	0,03820189BTC
TheNewAnon135246	:	0,03820189BTC

Excel sheet with all the calculations: PaperSafe - Group buy.

[fvs114]

Yes I've missed that... working on it right now